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# ? Jul 27, 2014 18:44 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 05:25 |
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*Bans Nazis* "Nope, no issue with freedom of the press here". Also the obvious politically loaded part of it is how they didn't include Gaza.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 18:52 |
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I can just see it now: "Prime Minister has issued a statement where he acknowledges the government efforts to increase freedom of press and information in our country, and has already requested Namibian government to send a team of experts as advisers".
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 18:53 |
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I am not surprised they rate Austria very good with the amount of money they hand out. Said money of course has no effect on reporting whatsover.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 18:58 |
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computer parts posted:*Bans Nazis* And then nothing else happened for 69 years, though it got a little repressive when they were trying to deal with a roving band of whiny college kid terrorists but that was about it
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 18:58 |
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Phlegmish posted:What about, I don't know, clam chowder or turkey-based dishes? Don't get me started on Manhattan-style "clam chowder". On the other hand, turkey is turkey.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 18:59 |
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I remembered how North Korea was usually the worst one in the RWB ranking, but then one year Eritrea managed to beat N.K. for the dubious honor.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 18:59 |
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Filippo Corridoni posted:At first they banned the nazis, and I did not speak out because gently caress nazis. I'm just curious under what metric a nation that bans explicit depiction of something is more free than one that doesn't (or only does so in a de-facto sense, i.e. regarding Palestinian perspectives).
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:04 |
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Closest thing I could find to a clam chowder map.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:04 |
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computer parts posted:*Bans Nazis* Oh man banning nazis, that's horrible.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:05 |
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Kurtofan posted:Oh man banning nazis, that's horrible. Not as horrible as letting get those stalinists away unscathed!
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:07 |
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SurgicalOntologist posted:Closest thing I could find to a clam chowder map. I have no idea what it tastes like but from briefly reading about it on Wikipedia the creamy New England style sounds like my cup of tea.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:07 |
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Kurtofan posted:Oh man banning nazis, that's horrible. Well yeah, if you think even vile people should have freedom of speech protected.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:07 |
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Real answer: It's not just de jure legal limits of the free press, but freedoms the press has realistically. (And since this is a reporters organization, it's gonna be hard to have a truthful and sympathetic depiction of Nazis anyway.) Compare that to the effects of a reemerging far-right political movement may have on the press. RWB also factors interference from the private sector and organized crime, which can do a lot to stop a well-intentioned reporter from spreading the news. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jul 27, 2014 |
# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:11 |
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Kurtofan posted:Oh man banning nazis, that's horrible. One area where America gets it right and Europe and other places get it wrong.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:17 |
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e_angst posted:Don't leave us hanging, Sinestro... Sorry, I forgot that I posted. It's number of furries as a percentage of the state's population, based on three furry dating sites. WA has the most, NY has the least.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:25 |
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Sinestro posted:Sorry, I forgot that I posted. That doesn't surprise me and I'm not sure why.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:30 |
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computer parts posted:I'm just curious under what metric a nation that bans explicit depiction of something is more free than one that doesn't (or only does so in a de-facto sense, i.e. regarding Palestinian perspectives). But banning Nazis has nothing to do with freedom of the press? In fact I cannot imagine a single instance of journalism being hampered by the Nazi ban. You can always show people illegally wearing the swastika, or write about neo-nazis. One cannot editorialize on the many benefits of national socialism and why it should definitely be reintroduced, but I think that's not freedom of the press and more freedom of speech.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:41 |
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Torrannor posted:
What is the difference between freedom of the press and freedom of speech?
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:46 |
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computer parts posted:What is the difference between freedom of the press and freedom of speech? Press didn't send 6 million people to the gas chamber.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:53 |
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Peanut President posted:Press didn't send 6 million people to the gas chamber. Neither did the Nazis though it was 12 million, everyone forgets about the Non-Jews.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 19:57 |
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computer parts posted:What is the difference between freedom of the press and freedom of speech? Requiring journalists to disclose sources is an attack on the freedom of the press and not freedom of speech for example? Anyway, even if you take banning the Nazis as a mark against freedom of press, that's still only one point. If that's the only thing limiting the press (rather unlikely) then I think the situation can indeed be considered "good". Especially if you compare it to other countries. The map didn't say that the situation was perfect.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 20:01 |
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Torrannor posted:One cannot editorialize on the many benefits of national socialism and why it should definitely be reintroduced, but I think that's not freedom of the press and more freedom of speech. In that example, the two concepts are nearly the same. More realistically, RWB is aware of Germany's various censorship laws but didn't think they were important enough to warrant a downgrade to a worse category. Which in turn makes me wonder why the US, France and the UK are in yellow.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 20:45 |
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Canada has so much freedom of the press that it shits all over itself, freely.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 20:51 |
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A mostly complete map of the French Republic.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 20:51 |
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Phlegmish posted:In that example, the two concepts are nearly the same. For the UK, I would imagine a lot of it is from the whole MI5 forcing The Guardian to destroy documents thing after the NSA stories started. Guessing for the US it's our horrible treatment of leakers and whistleblowers.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 20:51 |
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Phlegmish posted:I wouldn't bother with Pizza Hut when there are usually better and cheaper pizza places around. There used to be one in central Leuven, but it disappeared a couple of years ago. You don't go to Pizza Hut when you're a college student on a budget. People only ever go there for the 'buffet' aka unlimited pizza I think Also, this apparently exists in America? Can someone confirm this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8ViYIeH04
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 20:56 |
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From the Reporters without Borders website: http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.phpquote:INFORMATION SACRIFICED TO NATIONAL SECURITY AND SURVEILLANCE
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 20:57 |
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Echo Chamber posted:I remembered how North Korea was usually the worst one in the RWB ranking, but then one year Eritrea managed to beat N.K. for the dubious honor. W...w...what did they do?
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 21:29 |
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Antwan3K posted:People only ever go there for the 'buffet' aka unlimited pizza I think Pizza Hut and Taco Bell are owned by the same company Yum! Brands so yes. Yum! Brands map.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 21:38 |
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Antwan3K posted:Also, this apparently exists in America? Can someone confirm this? e: f,b
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 21:41 |
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Lowtechs posted:Pizza Hut and Taco Bell are owned by the same company Yum! Brands so yes. Yum! Brands map. Similarly, there were (are? haven't seen any in a while) combinations with Yum!'s two other former franchises, A&W and Long John Silver's, though those two were mostly just combined with one another.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 21:45 |
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Basil Hayden posted:Similarly, there were (are? haven't seen any in a while) combinations with Yum!'s two other former franchises, A&W and Long John Silver's, though those two were mostly just combined with one another. Yum! divested themselves of those franchises a few years ago.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 21:50 |
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:Yum! divested themselves of those franchises a few years ago. Yum! itself was also owned by PepsiCo until about 1997 when it was spun off.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 21:52 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:W...w...what did they do? From Torrantor's link: quote:Eritrea – Africa’s biggest prison for journalists quote:At the other end of the index, the last three positions are again held by Turkmenistan, North Korea and Eritrea, three countries where freedom of information is non-existent. Despite occasional turbulence in the past year, these countries continue to be news and information black holes and living hells for the journalists who inhabit them.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 21:56 |
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Yeah, Eritrea is still ranked the worst in 2014. I remember it being that way 5 years ago, but I thought it was just a one-year thing. You rarely hear about Eritrea in the news... well for reasons now more obvious than ever.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 22:37 |
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"Worse than North Korea" is a hell of an accolade and although I've seen Eritrea ranked worst before, it still blows my mind.
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# ? Jul 27, 2014 23:15 |
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Lowtechs posted:Pizza Hut and Taco Bell are owned by the same company Yum! Brands so yes. Yum! Brands map. That map is incorrect. The map on the Yum! Brand website is different http://www.yum.com/company/map.asp I only noticed because I've been to KFC and Pizza Hut in South Korea. Although, as it turns out, Pizza Hut Korea is not owned by Yum! Brands, only KFC.
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# ? Jul 28, 2014 00:37 |
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Disco Infiva posted:I can just see it now: Please tell us more about how black people can't possibly know how to run a democracy
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# ? Jul 28, 2014 06:32 |
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Finally, someone has the courage to stand up to notorious white supremacist Disco Infiva.
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# ? Jul 28, 2014 07:21 |