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mod sassinator posted:it's all those niche apps that actually matter in my experience though. stuff like controlling your security system, wireless speakers, depositing checks in your bank, etc that's how the Mac vs Windows battle worked out, though back in the 80s it wasn't a big deal that there were several major brands that were all incompatible "we can't use macs, this one specific app won't run, we have to use windows!" guess who taught businesses and consumers to think that way in the 1990s? how's it feel now motherfuckers?
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pram posted:remember when they hosed all early winpho adopters by making 7 and 8 completely different lol and despite having an extremely limited hardware ecosystem microsoft just couldn't port the new unified kernel to the older hardware, even for their flagship nokia phones they also made up some bullshit about new display resolutions being a limiting factor, then allowed hardware manufacturers to release low end winphones with exactly the same resolution they had forced everyone to use in winpho7
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infernal machines posted:and despite having an extremely limited hardware ecosystem microsoft just couldn't port the new unified kernel to the older hardware, even for their flagship nokia phones and they managed to completely gently caress it up it in less than one generation hell of a company you ran there, ballmer
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they entered the market late, with a feature set slightly better than what apple had launched with three years earlier, then decided in less than a year that they were going to go a completely different direction and both the hardware and software stack were going to be rebuilt from the ground up. why the gently caress did they launch anything in 2010? because microsoft. gently caress, they would have made more money selling winmo 6.5 for another year
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Jul 27, 2014 21:28
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don't forget the kin, 2 years, 1 billion usd and it was pulled from the market after being on sale for 2 months
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infernal machines posted:and despite having an extremely limited hardware ecosystem microsoft just couldn't port the new unified kernel to the older hardware, even for their flagship nokia phones there were approximately 0 users of wp7, so porting to old hardware would have benefited no one the bigger problem was leaving developers out in the cold: wp7 apps didn't run on wp8 devices without significant modifications
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infernal machines posted:gently caress, they would have made more money selling winmo 6.5 for another year i am pretty sure you can still buy brand new winmo 6.5 devices today in 2014, because there are shitloads of legacy users on old fuckin line-of-business apps. line of business apps were about the only reason to buy windows mobile in the first place. microsoft had zero forwards-compatibility for line-of-business apps running on winmo/wince moving to wp7, and then broke poo poo again with wp8 can't very well blame people for not migrating in any hurry
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Metrication posted:don't forget the kin, 2 years, 1 billion usd and it was pulled from the market after being on sale for 2 months that's just the surface. remember they bought Danger, producers of the very successful SideKick mobile device, and had them work on the kin. however they killed the sidekick and the danger OS and forced them to use windows CE. this led to most of the danger people leaving microsoft and forming a mobile OS company called Android, which was subsequently purchased by google. also they lost a bunch of sidekick user data in a botched database update because they didn't have anyone that knew how those systems worked anymore
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Jul 27, 2014 22:55
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The Management posted:also they lost a bunch of sidekick user data in a botched database update because they didn't have anyone that knew how those systems worked anymore even funnier, sidekick stored all user data in the cloud. like, ALL of it. it was way ahead of its time in a lot of ways, but that just made msft's bungling of the back end even more hilariously catastrophic
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has roz ho done anything that wasnt hilariously bad? i thought presiding over a ppc version of office for two years past the intel mac release was a pretty awesome move.
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Metrication posted:don't forget the kin, 2 years, 1 billion usd and it was pulled from the market after being on sale for 2 months when it was pulled from the market there was an update which was being held up by the carriers. that update would have added, among other things, a calendar.
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Jul 27, 2014 23:17
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the bigger problem was leaving developers out in the cold: wp7 apps didn't run on wp8 devices without significant modifications I'm fairly certain this is false
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speaking of office for Mac, where the hell is office 2014 for Mac? all I want is a version of lync that has things like "tabbed windows" and "nick completion" and "can stay running for an hour straight without crashing"
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pseudorandom name posted:I'm fairly certain this is false it is. most wp7 apps worked just fine. there were sometimes issues, and to take advantage of new features the developers had to do some things differently
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minivanmegafun posted:speaking of office for Mac, where the hell is office 2014 for Mac? probably some bullshit in-fighting from the windows department that thinks "if we make office for mac poo poo then we can sell more os licenses!"
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Jul 27, 2014 23:36
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Thanks Ants posted:probably some bullshit in-fighting from the windows department that thinks "if we make office for mac poo poo then we can sell more os licenses!"
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Jul 27, 2014 23:37
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having said that, ipad gets mobile office apps, and windows tablets get office 2013 with slightly further spaced out buttons. maybe its giving msft too much credit to imply they are doing anything on purpose or to a plan.
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Jul 27, 2014 23:39
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minivanmegafun posted:speaking of office for Mac, where the hell is office 2014 for Mac? i was lazy and didnt translate a .ppt (which was like 6 rotating slides) into a keynote file for a display and powerpoint had crashed (literally seized the computer) within 4 hours. lol
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Jul 28, 2014 00:43
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Jul 28, 2014 00:45
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lync is a massive loving piece of poo poo in every respect. it took close to a minute for me to receive a message sent to me by someone sitting right beside me. email would have been faster. the voice chat uses tons of bandwidth and sounds like poo poo. the UI is complete garbage
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vapid cutlery posted:lync is a massive loving piece of poo poo in every respect. it took close to a minute for me to receive a message sent to me by someone sitting right beside me. email would have been faster. the voice chat uses tons of bandwidth and sounds like poo poo. the UI is complete garbage sir (or madam) please refrain from signing your post. thanks
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i just want a MS file viewer for OSX. I ddont need to edit poo poo but I need to see stupid word docs, visio and powerpoint how they were meant 2 be seen. I guess i could parallelelels into win 7 but whatever
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pages and keynote are free .. ??
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ya pages
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pram posted:pages and keynote are free .. ?? can they open MS files tho?
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yeah they can hth
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welp consider me jiggled BRB installing some stuff
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they can save them also
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they might only be able to open docx not doc but that feels wrong to me
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i've never had them not open something. and they really open them, not like google docs open them.
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Thanks Ants posted:probably some bullshit in-fighting from the windows department that thinks "if we make office for mac poo poo then we can sell more os licenses!"
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z0rlandi viSSer posted:i just want a MS file viewer for OSX. I ddont need to edit poo poo but I need to see stupid word docs, visio and powerpoint how they were meant 2 be seen. they haven't even created new office viewers for windows since 2007 lol
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:consider consider setting fire to your testicles. it will be rough;y as effective at interacting with the files you actually need to work with on a daily basis
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Jul 28, 2014 02:00
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doubt he needs his nuts on a daily basis
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vapid cutlery posted:lync is a massive loving piece of poo poo in every respect. it took close to a minute for me to receive a message sent to me by someone sitting right beside me. email would have been faster. the voice chat uses tons of bandwidth and sounds like poo poo. the UI is complete garbage *team lead starts voice Lync chat* *i spin my chair around* "did you mean to do that?" "no I pushed like command-shift-v and it did that, sorry." *person in remote office in next state starts voice Lync chat* *lync chrashes, I restart it* "just call me on the drat phone if you need to talk to me"
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:there were approximately 0 users of wp7, so porting to old hardware would have benefited no one statistically speaking, i don't exist i had both a samsung focus and a lumia 800 infernal machines fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jul 28, 2014 |
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