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Zoph
Sep 12, 2005

goldboilermark posted:

If you get your invitation letter, I would drive or fly to DC and go to the embassy personally. Is that your plan? They don't do same day processing anymore (as of October 2013, but this is subject to change at literally the whims of someone), but if you're there by like 10am you can get next day. If you get your invitation letter on the 30th, you can be in DC on the 31st or the 1st. You can have your Z-visa by the 2nd or the 3rd if everything goes smoothly. I don't know where the weekends are but you should be ok. The whole Nebraska being served by the DC embassy is the biggest loving joke, when we hired a guy from Bowling Green, Kentucky he was required to do everything through DC, and for some reason, so was a guy from Miami though that might have had to do with his personal address. I have no idea how this all works, and I'm not sure how strict they are about it. When I got my Z-visa in 2009, my permanent address was in Maine but I was living with my girlfriend in Madison, Wisconsin and I did it through Chicago and no one gave a poo poo.

Furthermore, I don't understand why some companies buy the plane tickets before they have the visa, every single time we hire someone we wait until they have the Z-visa in their possession and then immediately buy the person a ticket. Unless you had to buy the plane ticket yourself, in which case, that sucks.

I had to buy it myself and there's no way I can afford to fly to DC. I don't have the time either, there's still a ton to do here.

edit: The weekend is August 2nd/3rd

Zoph fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jul 25, 2014

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The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Well, good luck. I have no idea what would be the best way to do that, I would guess another goon could chime in. Wish I could help out, I was almost going to be in DC that week but instead ended up in Chicago. I always recommend doing it in person because almost every person except one that we've hired in the past two years had problems the first time they went to the embassy, no matter what embassy it was. "Your background on this photo is the wrong color", "This form is out of date from last month", "This box you checked isn't very clear", "This stamp is in the wrong place", etc. Not trying to freak you out, but I'd make sure every single i is dotted and t is crossed before you send all that stuff to DC.

Zoph
Sep 12, 2005

goldboilermark posted:

Well, good luck. I have no idea what would be the best way to do that, I would guess another goon could chime in. Wish I could help out, I was almost going to be in DC that week but instead ended up in Chicago. I always recommend doing it in person because almost every person except one that we've hired in the past two years had problems the first time they went to the embassy, no matter what embassy it was. "Your background on this photo is the wrong color", "This form is out of date from last month", "This box you checked isn't very clear", "This stamp is in the wrong place", etc. Not trying to freak you out, but I'd make sure every single i is dotted and t is crossed before you send all that stuff to DC.

I kind of am freaking out, because I'm sort of backed into a corner here. I pretty much have to use a visa service, and moving my flight back again isn't really a feasible option.

Don't really have an option not to go either, I'm out a job here and I've spent everything I've got putting this in motion :/

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
I think they do that only because the US consulate are dicks like that, so they reciprocate.

We had a Chinese guy trying to get his wife to visit on a B-visa get denied because, "You must have a picture of you and your husband together."

Baddog
May 12, 2001

Zophar posted:

I kind of am freaking out, because I'm sort of backed into a corner here. I pretty much have to use a visa service, and moving my flight back again isn't really a feasible option.

Don't really have an option not to go either, I'm out a job here and I've spent everything I've got putting this in motion :/

A visa service is the way to go, its unfortunate you are going to have to pay to rush it like crazy. But in my experience they are connected pretty well to whoever does the processing at the embassies (I'm sure the whole thing is very lucrative for everyone involved), so there aren't any issues with getting it denied and you can usually get the maximum length visa (although I think one year is the longest available now?).

I used these guys last time. I went through the chicago embassy though, so I can't vouch for how well they can rush stuff through DC.

https://www.oasischinavisa.com/

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


https://www.abriggs.com/ very professional DC area visa expedite service.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Chengdu trip is one week away. What should I bone up on? Characters?

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Remember when they moved the weekend last year around this time? That was fun.

SB35
Jul 6, 2007
Move along folks, nothing to see here.

Eifert Posting posted:

Chengdu trip is one week away. What should I bone up on? Characters?

Eating spicy food. La duzi -ing.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS POST)

SB35 posted:

Eating spicy food. La duzi -ing.

EifertPosting is not good at spicy food. Can you recommend some safe and mild dishes?

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

DontAskKant posted:

EifertPosting is not good at spicy food. Can you recommend some safe and mild dishes?

Nope not in Chengdu. Good luck!

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

You can always get fried egg n' tomato.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Arglebargle III posted:

You can always get fried egg n' tomato.

I can't get egg and tomato here. I actually miss it.

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
It's not hard to make. Watch a youku video about it.

You can ask for (less) spice in Chengdu. There are plenty of general dishes that aren't spicy.

You can even get hotpot in white/non-spicy/lame oil. We got a split pot when caberham and wonton came to Chengdu so cabe wouldn't die.

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.

Jeoh posted:

Remember when they moved the weekend last year around this time? That was fun.

Whats this about?

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Heading to Guilin tomorrow! Unfortunately it looks like both that area and all of Yunnan are suffering thunderstorms for the next several weeks.

I'm considering changing my itinerary to take the train north to dodge the rain and check out maybe The Three Natural Bridges and Emeishan. I need to head back down and east at the end of three weeks to catch my return flight out of Kunming though.

Does that sound reasonable? Or are there better areas I could head to to dodge the rain while still seeing sweet natural landscapes?

DontAskKant posted:

EifertPosting is not good at spicy food. Can you recommend some safe and mild dishes?

Eifert is always embarrassing all the Korea goons by asking for "no spice" when we eat out. :argh:

Magna Kaser posted:

3G service here is very strange in that is is actually really reliable. Everything is pre-paid here, so you should just get a unicom SIM. I know they do 300mb of 3G for like 69rmb or something (11USD). It'll work almost anywhere.

Use Unicom because they use all the bands most providers in Europe/Rest of Asia/N. America use. The other providers are CDMA or use weird poo poo.

Thanks for this, I'll grab a Unicom SIM first thing then. Any idea how hard it is to find the microSIM's for the iPhone 5? Most countries it's not bad, but when I went to Indonesia it was basically impossible and I had to do without internet the whole time.

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Eifert Posting posted:

Chengdu trip is one week away. What should I bone up on? Characters?

Characters, basic phrases, and patience. Patience being the most important.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Bugblatter posted:

Heading to Guilin tomorrow! Unfortunately it looks like both that area and all of Yunnan are suffering thunderstorms for the next several weeks.

I'm considering changing my itinerary to take the train north to dodge the rain and check out maybe The Three Natural Bridges and Emeishan. I need to head back down and east at the end of three weeks to catch my return flight out of Kunming though.

Does that sound reasonable? Or are there better areas I could head to to dodge the rain while still seeing sweet natural landscapes?


Eifert is always embarrassing all the Korea goons by asking for "no spice" when we eat out. :argh:


Thanks for this, I'll grab a Unicom SIM first thing then. Any idea how hard it is to find the microSIM's for the iPhone 5? Most countries it's not bad, but when I went to Indonesia it was basically impossible and I had to do without internet the whole time.

When you buy a sim you have 2 choices.

#1 is to go to a Unicom office, literally all over any city in China, and get one. You need to show a passport but besides that it's pretty hassle free and quick. Then you pick what plan you want and load up some cash. I don't think there's a minimum, but you can always cash out if you close your account when you leave (but you can just leave). They'll definitely have a microSim there.

#2 is to get one from a dude in a small shop/on the street. They won't ask for a passport but you also get less choice as to what taocan you want. They'll cut a sim into a MicroSIM if need be.


DontAskKant posted:

EifertPosting is not good at spicy food. Can you recommend some safe and mild dishes?

haha good luck. Some of my Dutch coworkers eat at Subway or McDonalds every day cause even when they ask for not spicy*** they think it's too spicy for them.

*** Usually this stuff doesn't even register to me or others as "spicy" so ymmv

Smeef
Aug 15, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



Pillbug
This NYT piece is full of China gems.

quote:

He smiled and patted his not insubstantial belly. “I like to eat.”

quote:

Chen, who is 72, never planned on being a dumpling mogul.

quote:

Even after he became vice president of the Second People’s Hospital in Zhengzhou, a provincial city about halfway between Shanghai and Beijing, Chen remained bored with his day job. “I didn’t have enough to keep me busy,” he said, blinking earnestly, hands steepled beneath his chin. “I would wander round inspecting the building, and I had meetings, but I felt as if I spent most of my time reading the newspaper and drinking tea.” He engaged in lots of Rube Goldberg-like tinkering: jury-rigging the hospital’s aging equipment, fixing his neighbors’ radios and even building Zhengzhou’s first washing machine. And he cooked. For decades, his lunar New Year gifts of homemade glutinous rice balls were legendary among friends and neighbors.

quote:

His investigations found that, on average, a Chinese person experiences some kind of digestive upset twice a week — a kind of low-level recurring food poisoning, much of which is probably caused by the kind of bacterial growth that could have been prevented by keeping food cold. “Bad bowels,” Moriarty said, “is just part of the drill for being a food consumer in China.”

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

quote:

Chen, who is 72, never planned on being a dumpling mogul.

Be Depressive
Jul 8, 2006
"The drawings of the girls are badly proportioned and borderline pedo material. But"
Real Phone Talk:

I bought my wife a Xiaomi and she gave me her bigass Samsung GT-N7100 phablet, which I don't really want because it's so goddamn big, but I figure if I upgrade to Android 4.4.2 kitkat and root the phone, it will at least be useable. The current firmware has all sorts of terrible Chinese software installed that you cannot delete.

But I'm worried that Google isn't working without a vpn now, and I might end up with a phone that only works as a phone, am unable to download apps or whatever.

So what should I do? I already tried to trade it for an iphone 4s (my 3gs finally broke) at the computer market but nobody wants this thing. I figure I can use this for a while, but know nothing of custom firmwares or google play or whatever it is people do on android devices.

Help!

Be Depressive
Jul 8, 2006
"The drawings of the girls are badly proportioned and borderline pedo material. But"
Haha, while Zhengzhou is equidistant from Shanghai and Beijing, it is NOT halfway between the two cities, unless you go really far out of your way.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Be Depressive for my sanity please post more in China threads on the forums, thanks a lot!

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Be Depressive posted:

Real Phone Talk:

I bought my wife a Xiaomi and she gave me her bigass Samsung GT-N7100 phablet, which I don't really want because it's so goddamn big, but I figure if I upgrade to Android 4.4.2 kitkat and root the phone, it will at least be useable. The current firmware has all sorts of terrible Chinese software installed that you cannot delete.

But I'm worried that Google isn't working without a vpn now, and I might end up with a phone that only works as a phone, am unable to download apps or whatever.

So what should I do? I already tried to trade it for an iphone 4s (my 3gs finally broke) at the computer market but nobody wants this thing. I figure I can use this for a while, but know nothing of custom firmwares or google play or whatever it is people do on android devices.

Help!

I personally like Notes even though I have baby hands, but that's besides the point.

If you do root the phone and do an install of either stock Android or a custom ROM like CM it should get rid of the Chinese stuff and give you a clean, working Android phone. If you go to IYG they have about 100 guides for how to do this. The Note II is alright, it should still be plenty usable by today's standards.

The bad part is you are unable to access Google Play in it's entirety without a VPN now. There are other app stores (Amazon, etc...) you can use in lieu of Google Play, or you can just hunt down APKs, but neither is as good/as easy as the App Store for China.

Also Xiaomi 4 comes out tomorrow who is PSYCHEDDDD

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Magna Kaser posted:

When you buy a sim you have 2 choices.

#1 is to go to a Unicom office, literally all over any city in China, and get one. You need to show a passport but besides that it's pretty hassle free and quick. Then you pick what plan you want and load up some cash. I don't think there's a minimum, but you can always cash out if you close your account when you leave (but you can just leave). They'll definitely have a microSim there.

#2 is to get one from a dude in a small shop/on the street. They won't ask for a passport but you also get less choice as to what taocan you want. They'll cut a sim into a MicroSIM if need be.

Okay, any chance there will just be a station in the airport for super convenience?

Be Depressive
Jul 8, 2006
"The drawings of the girls are badly proportioned and borderline pedo material. But"
Ok so I could theoretically get Astrill from a different app store and then use Google Play? That would work for me..

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

I could probably send you the .apk file if you can't get it otherwise.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS POST)
I know Astrill is a favorite, but we know that HostVPN works in Chengdu yeah?

Bugblatter, good luck i spent way too long trying to get a simcard in Nanjing. All of the stores were variations and combinations of useless and incompetent and I was in the main shopping district. 2 hours later (because I'm more stubborn than wise) I gave up and used lovely roaming.

Problems i could understand were:
This Nexus4 is something I haven't seen, it is impossible.
MicroSims don't exist, wtf are you talking about.
Oh I see that you have one, but I rolled a 20 to disbelieve.
It is not possible for foreigners.
You have to be a member.
Foreigner! :aaaaa:
Let me talk to my boss, *vanishes*
Hey lets ask 10 people sitting by 2 chairs, oh we don't know how. Do you want to buy a phone?
Okay, let's try that, oh it doesn't work... Oh well. Maybe try someone else.
Nexus4 doesn't work in China because...
What? I can't hear you there's 3 dogs barking and jumping on the counter.
What? Are you speaking? I can only hear this screaming baby.
Sorry we can't help you we have no electricity in this store.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

DontAskKant posted:

I know Astrill is a favorite, but we know that HostVPN works in Chengdu yeah?

Bugblatter, good luck i spent way too long trying to get a simcard in Nanjing. All of the stores were variations and combinations of useless and incompetent and I was in the main shopping district. 2 hours later (because I'm more stubborn than wise) I gave up and used lovely roaming.

Problems i could understand were:
This Nexus4 is something I haven't seen, it is impossible.
MicroSims don't exist, wtf are you talking about.
Oh I see that you have one, but I rolled a 20 to disbelieve.
It is not possible for foreigners.
You have to be a member.
Foreigner! :aaaaa:
Let me talk to my boss, *vanishes*
Hey lets ask 10 people sitting by 2 chairs, oh we don't know how. Do you want to buy a phone?
Okay, let's try that, oh it doesn't work... Oh well. Maybe try someone else.
Nexus4 doesn't work in China because...
What? I can't hear you there's 3 dogs barking and jumping on the counter.
What? Are you speaking? I can only hear this screaming baby.
Sorry we can't help you we have no electricity in this store.

You should have said you had an LG instead of a Nexus 4 and they would have given you a card. Though if you were at Telecom or Mobile they were probably correct.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS POST)

Magna Kaser posted:

You should have said you had an LG instead of a Nexus 4 and they would have given you a card. Though if you were at Telecom or Mobile they were probably correct.

Yeah, I tried to communicate it was an LG phone, but that I'm pretty sure i failed at. But like, aren't microsims common enough or should i bring my own scissors?

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

DontAskKant posted:

Yeah, I tried to communicate it was an LG phone, but that I'm pretty sure i failed at. But like, aren't microsims common enough or should i bring my own scissors?

I think microsims are the default now since every phone uses them, and they cut a micro into a Nano if you buy an iPhone. I just looked at my Unicom card which is living in my Nexus 5 right now and it looks like it was originally a micro. I don't remember cutting it.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Yeah when I got my local SIM in Chengdu it was just a Micro-SIM with an adapter to regular SIM. But I got my gf to set me up so I never had any of the mystical laowai problems.

Aero737
Apr 30, 2006

Be Depressive posted:

Real Phone Talk:

I bought my wife a Xiaomi and she gave me her bigass Samsung GT-N7100 phablet, which I don't really want because it's so goddamn big, but I figure if I upgrade to Android 4.4.2 kitkat and root the phone, it will at least be useable. The current firmware has all sorts of terrible Chinese software installed that you cannot delete.

But I'm worried that Google isn't working without a vpn now, and I might end up with a phone that only works as a phone, am unable to download apps or whatever.

So what should I do? I already tried to trade it for an iphone 4s (my 3gs finally broke) at the computer market but nobody wants this thing. I figure I can use this for a while, but know nothing of custom firmwares or google play or whatever it is people do on android devices.

Help!


I don't see you having any problems. Upgrade, Root, Reset phone and wipe cache will leave you will a stock phone with root. Now use something like Titanium Backup or something else to start hibernating or removing the Chinese bloatware.

Also, check the Chinese Samsung store to see if they have Google apps in there. I was able to get an official signed google apps package through the Chinese HTC store that installs to /system.

If you go through a custom rom (like Cyanogen) be careful. Oftentimes the Chinese phones have different baseband or radios and you can brick your phone flashing a custom rom. If you're worried about phone activation, most of the time activation can be skipped by tapping the 4 corners in a clockwise direction at the Google activation screen.

If you have a VPN, get the OpenVPN client and use that. It's so much better than the built in VPN service.

As for apps, I've been using the Google play store for overseas things and Baidu for the Chinese applications. Don't download the Baidu app store, just search at Baidu.com for whatever app and download it from the web interface. As long as you're not stupid and look at permissions, you're not going to get 1000 popups unless you're installing shady poo poo. And if you're really worried, get a free "antivirus" program.

I have an HTC One M7 and a Google Nexus 7 and both run perfectly fine as long as I keep my VPN on (I use the goon run HostVPN). If my VPN is off, the only thing that doesn't work is GoogleNow (search). Maps, gmail, and play store are all slow but functioning.

Magna Kaser posted:

Also Xiaomi 4 comes out tomorrow who is PSYCHEDDDD

I want to try the MiBand fitness band they have. I wonder how fast they will sell out on JingDong.

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

DontAskKant posted:

I know Astrill is a favorite, but we know that HostVPN works in Chengdu yeah?

Bugblatter, good luck i spent way too long trying to get a simcard in Nanjing. All of the stores were variations and combinations of useless and incompetent and I was in the main shopping district. 2 hours later (because I'm more stubborn than wise) I gave up and used lovely roaming.

Problems i could understand were:
This Nexus4 is something I haven't seen, it is impossible.
MicroSims don't exist, wtf are you talking about.
Oh I see that you have one, but I rolled a 20 to disbelieve.
It is not possible for foreigners.
You have to be a member.
Foreigner! :aaaaa:
Let me talk to my boss, *vanishes*
Hey lets ask 10 people sitting by 2 chairs, oh we don't know how. Do you want to buy a phone?
Okay, let's try that, oh it doesn't work... Oh well. Maybe try someone else.
Nexus4 doesn't work in China because...
What? I can't hear you there's 3 dogs barking and jumping on the counter.
What? Are you speaking? I can only hear this screaming baby.
Sorry we can't help you we have no electricity in this store.

Yeah man, but you are also you and I am me. The two of us have very different kinds of luck, especially when traveling. I think I'll be okay~

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Aero737 posted:


I have an HTC One M7 and a Google Nexus 7 and both run perfectly fine as long as I keep my VPN on (I use the goon run HostVPN). If my VPN is off, the only thing that doesn't work is GoogleNow (search). Maps, gmail, and play store are all slow but functioning.


Out of curiosity where are you/what service do you use? Here in Chengdu with every wifi connection I get on (Dianxin/Liantong/Aipu, business and personal) the play store 100% does not work (working for a company that makes apps for Google Play, this is a big annoyance). On my Unicom 3/4G it sometimes works, but usually only sporadically and I only notice cause I'll get emails or the Play Store telling me my apps can be updated. Normally I can't even send email without my VPN on. I haven't successfully downloaded an app or update without my VPN in months and the Play Store won't even load 95% of the time.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Magna Kaser posted:

haha good luck. Some of my Dutch coworkers eat at Subway or McDonalds every day cause even when they ask for not spicy*** they think it's too spicy for them.

*** Usually this stuff doesn't even register to me or others as "spicy" so ymmv

Kant is loving with everybody. :ssh:

Eifert Posting is expecting to eat six meals a day and wants his blood to have so much flower pepper in it by the time he leaves that it would numb a vampire. Please assist him in this quest.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
多放点辣

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Write 麻辣辣 on your forehead and point at it.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Grand Fromage posted:

Write 麻辣辣 on your forehead and point at it.

Actually in the Sichuanese spiciness tiers 老麻 is the most 麻。

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Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Eifert Posting posted:

多放点辣肚子

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