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That's because Eric Weems owns.
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As do kick returners who put a foot out of bounds and stretch
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Jul 18, 2014 14:22
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Cozz posted:Now, what was confusing and obscure rule last year was Eric Weems doing trying to recover a punt in the end zone during the Bears and Vikings game. The Vikings touched a punt within the five yard line but did not actually down the ball, so Weems knocked it out of the Endzone for a touchback when it looked like he was being an idiot and going to cause the Bears to lose a possession, but it was a smart veteran play because he knew the rule. Mike Pereira was unable to show up that day, but that was due to technical issues from Fox that Thom Brennemann kept apologizing for. Weems was the Bear set to return the punt but he stepped out from under it because it was dropping close to the goal line. A Viking touched the ball without downing so Weems ran over to the ball and knocked it out the back of the endzone?
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Yeah I thought that would be a safety
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Yeah once the punting team touches it nothing bad can happen to the receiving team. That's why you see the returners hanging out in the area of the ball and getting shoved away so often. I swear someone scored this way for the Chiefs a long time ago (punting team touched the ball and got lazy watching it), maybe it was Tamarick Vanover or Dale Carter?
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BougieBitch posted:If you look at the score you can see that different teams are playing. The Raiders fan plays Santana in Glee or something. I guess she has a sibling on the Raiders. The player on the Raiders is Mychal Rivera. He played at Tennessee. It's his sister.
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Bort Bortles posted:The reason it is a rule is because the receiving team is supposed to have a fair chance to return the kick (because they can not oppose the kick like you can with a punt), and the rule is the way it is so that the kicking team kicks it to a spot that is feasibly returnable, which the NFL has deemed to be far enough in bounds that if the receiving player can have a foot out of bounds, it is a penalty. I agree with the rule specifically for this reason. Kickoffs cannot be rushed or blocked, so they should always be returnable, and reasonably so, unless you kick it out the back of the end zone. Kicking too far to one side in the field of play should be punished since you're taking half of the field away from the returner. If you want to eliminate returns, find a kicker who can consistently produce touchbacks. I mean, gently caress, they even moved kickoffs back to the 35 again now, in an era with much stronger kickers. The NFL return game has already been damaged enough. Allowing coffin corner kickoffs would probably end the kick return game completely. Of course, I would never argue this with punts since they are contested and a punt is not a fully live ball, having to be touched by a member of the receiving team before it can be live to the kicking team. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Jul 19, 2014 |
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Jul 19, 2014 01:48
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This looks like a holdover from Rugby Union, "If a player with one or both feet on or beyond the touch-line (or touch-in-goal line), picks up the ball, which was in motion within the playing area, that player is deemed to have picked up the ball in touch (or touch-in-goal)."
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Vaders Jester posted:This looks like a holdover from Rugby Union, That is definitely not part of the 1873 rules that American football started with, and I don't see anything about it in the rule changes through 1911. The code was generally pretty ambiguous early on, and didn't really get organized and specific about definitions like that until much later. RU must have adopted that rule independently. I'm pretty sure at this point it's just consistency - a player out of bounds touching the ball makes the ball itself out of bounds and dead in all situations, no exceptions. I wouldn't mind seeing an illegal touching situation for a man deliberately going out of bounds, however.
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Deteriorata posted:That is definitely not part of the 1873 rules that American football started with, and I don't see anything about it in the rule changes through 1911. The code was generally pretty ambiguous early on, and didn't really get organized and specific about definitions like that until much later. RU must have adopted that rule independently. Cool, thanks for clearing that up for me  . I just know it is a rule in rugby so thought it may have been a holdover from that, interesting to see that both sports adopted it independently of each other. Always good to learn new things.
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This is one of the few rules that seems to go accross all forms of football, the nrl and rugby union have the same rule if you have a foot out of bounds and catch it, the kick is out on the full. Doesn't explain it, but it's kind of interesting I guess.
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Does the ball have to be recovered by an OOB player, or is simply contacting the ball sufficient? I'm amused by the hypothetical scenario of a kickoff returner running out of bounds and then diving back onto the field, his arm out-stretched to down the ball while technically OOB, making sure to do so before he landed and re-established himself as in-bounds.
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Multiplesarcasm posted:Apropos of nothing. Can't help analyzing this to figure out what went wrong. The kicker nods his head right at the start, which seemed to be taken as the signal to snap the ball by the center. It appears he also said something as well while he nodded his head, as the holder had been looking at the center but was suddenly distracted and turned his head to the kicker at that same moment. Fun ensues.
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Deteriorata posted:Can't help analyzing this to figure out what went wrong. Its too bad, too, because that snap is perfect.
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The kicker's starting to sprint to his right before the holder gets it in the face. Maybe they were running a fake? Or maybe he was just reacting to the holder looking at him and not the ball. The pure shock and confusion in the second one is beautiful. How did this not win .gif of the year?
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I just created the gif on Saturday after re-watching that game on Friday. Once I saw that replay in slow motion, I knew there was gold in them there hills.
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Jul 28, 2014 15:57
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bhsman posted:
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TyroneGoldstein posted:
I am expecting a RIP_Chad_Henn.gif at some point, but I have a feeling by the time the Jaguars play the Texans it will be Bort that gets murdered on the field  .(The Texans and Jaguars do not play until week 14)
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As far as I can tell the o-line didn't even touch him.
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bhsman posted:
I like how the RB keeps running as if he somehow broke the tackle and not that Clowney decided practice wasn't worth murdering a dude
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I like how the RB keeps running as if he somehow broke the tackle and not that Clowney decided practice wasn't worth murdering a dude I was thinking the same exact thing, haha. Can't wait to see Clowney just rock some dudes this year.
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I like how it looks like they didn't have a jersey big enough to fit him so it looks like he's wearing a kid's size. Texans D should be #1 this year...our Offense??
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MrSargent posted:I was thinking the same exact thing, haha. Can't wait to see Clowney just rock some dudes this year. They're told to do that. If you'll go to camp you'll see people run up field even after being hit.
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Rabble posted:Texans D should be #1 this year in Offense. ftfy
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Percy Harvin and Earl Thomas are fast yall 
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Bad Moon posted:Percy Harvin and Earl Thomas are fast yall Not shown: Percy Harvin injuring his achilles, both knees, dislocating an arm, and breaking his back when a slight breeze passed by just off camera.
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Kelvin throwin bombs 
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BlindSite posted:Kelvin throwin bombs Wanna see Kelvin throw bombs to Cam in wacko formations
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BlindSite posted:Kelvin throwin bombs Can't coach size, can't coach arm strength
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Alouicious posted:Can't coach size, can't coach arm strength Can you coach that throwing motion? 
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Bort Bortles posted:Can you coach that throwing motion? The HoF game announcers went to great lengths to show us that yes, you can, in fact, coach throwing motion. Given the context of the explanation, you can't coach completing passing, apparently.
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Febreeze posted:Wanna see Kelvin throw bombs to Cam in wacko formations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMgizuHOOfM&t=455s
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Chilichimp posted:The HoF game announcers went to great lengths to show us that yes, you can, in fact, coach throwing motion. You can coach it, and have players looking pretty good in practice. However, once game time comes players tend to revert back to their old selves. It's pretty rare that a player is able to re-work their whole throwing motion by the time they reach the NFL because it requires some serious commitment.
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HappyHelmet posted:You can coach it, and have players looking pretty good in practice. However, once game time comes players tend to revert back to their old selves. It's pretty rare that a player is able to re-work their whole throwing motion by the time they reach the NFL because it requires some serious commitment. Yeah, that. I'm trying really hard and I can't think of one NFL quarterback who ever successfully made significant changes in throwing motion, and it actually stuck. Stafford comes close sometimes, then reverts right back to that half-assed sidearm thing he does. I haven't seen many Dolphins games, but I hear Tannehill is getting better at his release point so he's having less balls batted down at the line? I mean, that's the only other one I can even come up with right now. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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