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ComradeCosmobot posted:The bigger question: who is now the Republicans' biggest rising star? Eric Cantor? 
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 (Besides, you can't be a rising star if you lost a primary election as an incumbent!)
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Jul 30, 2014 07:30
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ComradeCosmobot posted:
Beep boop I'm dumb.
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Jul 30, 2014 08:33
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In all seriousness, the Republicans' current fastest rising star is Mitt Romney. In addition to hoping that Joe Biden remains VP for life, I really hope that Mitt Romney is our generation's William Jennings Bryan of perennial hopeless lovely candidate edit: that gets somewhere, so not ron paul Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Jul 30, 2014 |
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Jul 30, 2014 11:19
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How is this still awesome.
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Jul 30, 2014 12:28
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Jesus gently caress, GDP grew at 4% rate in second quarter Edit: link
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Jul 30, 2014 14:16
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Is that good?
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Jul 30, 2014 14:19
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Pretty nice bounce-back after the -2.2% (adjusted from -2.9%) Q1 plagued by crippling snowstorms. I'm sure the people who blamed Obama then will be praising him nowHAHAHAHA Oh man that's a good dream.
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Jul 30, 2014 14:20
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greatn posted:Is that good? Yes. Its real good. For comparison the average GDP growth for 2009-2013 was 1.9%
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Jul 30, 2014 14:22
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Clearly the growth in GDP is due to the resilience of the American spirit and the triumph of free enterprise, and the economy grows in spite of Obummer's continuing efforts to kill jobs bills.* *A thing that "serious" people actually believe
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Jul 30, 2014 14:23
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greatn posted:Is that good? It's so good I'd be surprised if it wasn't eventually revised downward
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Jul 30, 2014 14:24
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greatn posted:Is that good? No because it indicates that the American people are all getting more and better jobs while meanwhile unemployment is skyrocketing because the American people can't find jobs and illegals are happening and IMPEACH!!(but not really we're scared)
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Jul 30, 2014 14:39
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greatn posted:Is that good? Yup  http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/30/investing/gdp-report/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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Jul 30, 2014 14:48
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Jagchosis posted:In all seriousness, the Republicans' current fastest rising star is Mitt Romney. Yeah but could you see Romney making a speech as noteworthy as that cross of gold speech? I don't really know enough about Bryan as a presidential candidate to have an opinion either way if he was a good or bad guy, but he at least made a speech that was stirring and important enough to get a place in high school history textbooks. If Romney is taught to school students 100 years from now it'll be more like Adlai Stevenson where they tell you literally nothing about him and only name drop him as being the guy in the election who lost to the guy who actually gets some teaching time.
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Jul 30, 2014 14:53
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Pornographic Memory posted:If Romney is taught to school students 100 years from now it'll be more like Adlai Stevenson where they tell you literally nothing about him and only name drop him as being the guy in the election who lost to the guy who actually gets some teaching time. Even Adlai Stevenson won a place in the history books with his speech at the UN. Maybe Romney will be remembered for the 47% thing 
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Jul 30, 2014 15:01
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Yup What happened at Q4 2012? Besides the elections, I mean.
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Jul 30, 2014 15:01
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This little light of mine, I'm gonna make it shine by burning coal because that is God's plan.  quote:At their news conference today Cavanaugh and PSC commissioner-elect Chip Beeker invoked the name of God in stating their opposition to the EPA proposal. Beeker, a Republican who is running unopposed for a PSC seat, said coal was created in Alabama by God, and the federal government should not enact policy that runs counter to God's plan. Can an omnipotent God create a federal government so powerful it can defeat his own natural resources plan? These are the questions of our times.
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Jul 30, 2014 15:24
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djw175 posted:What happened at Q4 2012? Besides the elections, I mean. Government spending cratered, led by defense spending cuts. Consumer confidence ahead of the holiday season was down, businesses cut inventory, and a lot of debt was paid off. I believe the fiscal cliff was happening too.
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Jul 30, 2014 15:28
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Health care spending growth was nearly flat in q2, growing at only 0.7%. That's really good, and it is a stake through the heart of the idea that the slowdown in health care spending is due to the recession rather than the ACA. If it were tracking with the economy we should also see a sharp uptick, instead of this. Not as good as last quarters -1.4% which was paired with expanding access, but still, a good refutation of that talking point.
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Jul 30, 2014 15:40
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Financial recovery, you keep Americans politically content  At least health care spending is wasteful and corrupt.
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Jul 30, 2014 15:45
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Joementum posted:This little light of mine, I'm gonna make it shine by burning coal because that is God's plan. Hmm well my God-created penis fits very well in God-created mouths and assholes, can't argue with what God has created!
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Jul 30, 2014 16:00
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Fried Chicken posted:Health care spending growth was nearly flat in q2, growing at only 0.7%. That's really good, and it is a stake through the heart of the idea that the slowdown in health care spending is due to the recession rather than the ACA. If it were tracking with the economy we should also see a sharp uptick, instead of this. "But but but Marketplace said that more people are abusing emergency room care than ever! Clearly Obamacare is bad!"
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Jul 30, 2014 16:06
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ComradeCosmobot posted:"But but but Marketplace said that more people are abusing emergency room care than ever! Clearly Obamacare is bad!" Almost as if ER demand is inelastic...
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Jul 30, 2014 16:19
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SedanChair posted:Financial recovery, you keep Americans politically content Not so much. Here's an article from Esquire covering a fight over corporate control Basically there is a grocery chain (keep in mind that grocery stores operate on insanely right margins) that offers all it's employees a living wage, profit sharing, 401ks, health benefits, and vacation time while turning a profit and offering lower prices than Walmart. The CEO has been forced out because these measures cut into stockholders' dividends and the new CEO wants to sell it to a mega chain
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Jul 30, 2014 16:22
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Not really a super major article but it shows how hosed up the house is. http://thehill.com/homenews/house/213588-will-speaker-move-bill-on-the-pope
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Jul 30, 2014 16:38
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Fried Chicken posted:Not so much. Here's an article from Esquire covering a fight over corporate control I got three things out of this story 1. It's all too fitting that the name of the private equity firm that might end up snapping up Market Basket is named "Cerberus". 2. I now understand why people liked working at Market Basket in my younger years, given the benefits. 3. I think whatever good idea or intent was behind letting "the people" own a business through stock has far been outclassed by how greedy, amoral, or just plain stupid stockholders have been in general over the past couple of years. Not just in this case, but in other businesses as well. I'm now firmly convinced that either something about the way the stock market and stock ownership works needs to be changed, or done away with entirely. That said I'm probably missing something and doing away with the stock market would be catastrophic somehow so if someone could explain why we even still have such a clearly broken system I'd be much obliged because I'm genuinely curious as to what benefit it serves at this point other than allowing rich idiots with portfolios who don't know how anything works to gently caress up everything.
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Jul 30, 2014 16:47
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anonumos posted:Almost as if ER demand is inelastic... It is, but the bigger issue is that the ACA had minimal provisions to encourage regular preventative care over going to the ER. It was focused on making it so everyone could pay for care, not improving public health. Public health and preventative is a much bigger issue to tackle than even reforming how we pay for health care, and we barely squeaked by on that. A bill to tackle health care from a preventative standpoint would entail, at a minimum: * employee protections so that they can go to the clinic during operating hours (right now a lot of low wage workers go to the ER for simple things because it is what is open when they are off shift), * provisions to cover getting people to and from the clinics (something like 40% of Americans don't have regular access to personal transport, public transport is limited, focused on getting people from the suburbs to the city and back rather than moving about the city, and does nothing for the cast rural areas that make up most of the country), * a public education campaign to get people to shift away from risky habits and break down misconceptions on health and wellness (the litany of stupidity needed to address here is too long to do on phone, at a minimum think about the backlash against Michelle Obama, the upholding in hobby lobby that factually incorrect medical statements are afforded religious protections, antivaxxers, and the fight over sex ed) * Public education to recognize early warning signs (blood in your poo poo and chest pains aren't things you should tough out like a man) * Public education on appropriate use of medicine and how to understand side effects and studies so people stop demanding what they see an ad for and misusing it (which I'm certain the drug companies will live, seeing as how it would be a direct counter to their ads) * funding for all this and the costs of going to the clinics that would now pop up (somewhat offset by ER savings, but not enough) * ending subsidies for unhealthy things and taxes on healthy things (like the corn subsidies that get HFCS dumped in everything, or the DC tax on gym and yoga) * tighter regulations on environmental quality (poor air quality, contaminated water, etc) * anti drug policies focused on addiction treatment * a lot more than I, a non expert, can think of. Never mind that a lot of this is tied up with poverty. I don't give that good odds of getting passed even if the GOP was acting in good faith and committed to universal good public health. And even if it was, I can easily see several slam dunk legal challenges on 1st and 10th amendment grounds. Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Jul 30, 2014 |
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Jul 30, 2014 16:49
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Angry_Ed posted:3. I think whatever good idea or intent was behind letting "the people" own a business through stock has far been outclassed by how greedy, amoral, or just plain stupid stockholders have been in general over the past couple of years. Not just in this case, but in other businesses as well. I'm now firmly convinced that either something about the way the stock market and stock ownership works needs to be changed, or done away with entirely. That said I'm probably missing something and doing away with the stock market would be catastrophic somehow so if someone could explain why we even still have such a clearly broken system I'd be much obliged because I'm genuinely curious as to what benefit it serves at this point other than allowing rich idiots with portfolios who don't know how anything works to gently caress up everything. As to why it is all hosed up, I refer you to Forbes Magazine's series The Dumbest Idea In The World There are like 6 or 7 in the series on it articles on it, all worth reading. It basically comes down to a new management philosophy came out in the 1970s, that companies should be managed as to "maximize shareholder value". The authors of the new philosophy were connected to some think tanks and pushed for their management philosophy to be regarded as a "core point of capitalism and economics" even though there is absolutely nothing connecting it so. It has been propagated as such, is taught as fact in schools, and is why the mentality exists. Jack Welch, the other CEOs quoted in this series, and Forbes Magazine are no friend of the working man (Forbes ran a thing yesterday on 5 reasons that Comcast is a great company). But even they get it.
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Jul 30, 2014 17:04
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Reminder that Hobby Lobby is terrible in every regard
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Jul 30, 2014 17:16
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I REALLY don't get how companies are allowed to have "you can't sue us" contracts. That just seems like it's terribly broken especially in our system where civil courts are the only way big business gets any sort of penalty.
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Jul 30, 2014 17:21
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Radish posted:I REALLY don't get how companies are allowed to have "you can't sue us" contracts. That just seems like it's terribly broken especially in our system where civil courts are the only way big business gets any sort of penalty. Mandatory arbitration over suing was upheld in American Express v Italian Colors Restaurant, majority opinion written by Chief Justice John Roberts. If you are betting it was decided 5-4, you'd be wrong It was 5-3, Sotomayor took no part in the consideration or decision if this case. (There are more cases on it, it all stems from the Federal Arbitration Act of 1925, which was good at the time because it was prior to the expansive reading of the commerce clause. Since the 80s there has been tinkering around the edges about things like what constitutes grounds for judicial review and who can be bound by it, but this was the last big one, and it really screwed us in favor of mega corps) Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jul 30, 2014 |
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Jul 30, 2014 17:33
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I don't know how charlatans are still able to hock useless pills and tonics. I don't think anyone cares enough to say no. Let's follow the money in your question. Who are the mediators usually? Isn't it a joke?
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Jul 30, 2014 17:34
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Radish posted:I REALLY don't get how companies are allowed to have "you can't sue us" contracts. That just seems like it's terribly broken especially in our system where civil courts are the only way big business gets any sort of penalty. It's a lot  independent contracting team to arbitrate a dispute in a totally fair closed-door process that comes with a non-disclosure agreement than it is to deal with all that annoying poo poo like a judge or laws. Have you see how long lawsuits take since we've been chronically underfunding everything in the government? The Glorious Free Market is the answer.
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Jul 30, 2014 17:41
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I'm being obviously hyperbolic but I get the feeling that in a hundred years when the US is a wasteland with one Elysium style city hovering over it, there will be a giant statue of John Roberts right in the center. That guy is going to responsible for stuff that I don't think we will ever repair once the think tanks really start submitted terrible stuff through the courts. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jul 30, 2014 |
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Jul 30, 2014 17:45
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Any one listen to "On Point"? http://onpoint.wbur.org/2014/07/30/dinesh-dsouza-america-campaign-finance  Not sure when it'll be up as a podcast, but it was something. David Corn (and Tom Ashbrook) tore him apart.
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Jul 30, 2014 17:46
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Of all the days to miss it. 
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Jul 30, 2014 18:01
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loving LOL. https://twitter.com/costareports/status/494530001874980864 Oh what a glorious clusterfuck when a minority party freshman senator is whipping against his own party's majority party senior representative whip And more to the point doing well at it
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Jul 30, 2014 18:10
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Fried Chicken posted:loving LOL. https://twitter.com/costareports/status/494530001874980864 I don't think his plan to meet at 7pm is going to work, since the vote in the House is scheduled for this afternoon.
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Jul 30, 2014 18:12
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Joementum posted:I don't think his plan to meet at 7pm is going to work, since the vote in the House is scheduled for this afternoon. I am very surprised to learn that Ted Cruz takes actions that are ill conceived, shortsighted, and doomed to failure
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Fried Chicken posted:loving LOL. https://twitter.com/costareports/status/494530001874980864 Is this the transpo bill?
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