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Wow, that was really impressive! Great design on that Ares class ship, too.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:54
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Wow! Like seriously, wow. They should just keep doing Star Trek documentaries. That format works out surprisingly well for the universe...apophenium posted:Wow, that was really impressive! Great design on that Ares class ship, too. Definitely some sexy ship designs. I liked that one that had two chunky stardrive hulls with nacelles above them. These people have good eyes.
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Jul 31, 2014 17:00
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Yeah, the guy behind the VFX in that documentary is Tobias Richter, the guy who used to do the Ships of the Line calendars. All of his Trek work is pretty much amazing. Is this Kickstarter for this project still running?
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Jul 31, 2014 17:13
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Drone posted:Yeah, the guy behind the VFX in that documentary is Tobias Richter, the guy who used to do the Ships of the Line calendars. All of his Trek work is pretty much amazing. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/star-trek-axanar?ref=discovery
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Jul 31, 2014 17:21
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So tempted to contribute to it, if for nothing else than the sweet patches. Oh, and the fact that this project is really great.
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Jul 31, 2014 17:41
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Brawnfire posted:
That one (and a few others) are from JJTrek 
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Jul 31, 2014 18:01
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I think historical documentaries probably work better for fanfilms because they're a series of interviews rather than actors... well... acting or interacting with people, so it comes across as less hokey than most. That said, I think those Star Trek Continues episodes are the best fanfilms I've ever seen given that they perfectly capture the look and writing of TOS even though the acting is not so great. The vast, vast majority of fanfilms are total poo poo. These are actually watchable in spite of seeming like a vanity project for the guy who plays Kirk.
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Jul 31, 2014 18:02
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Drone posted:Yeah, the guy behind the VFX in that documentary is Tobias Richter, the guy who used to do the Ships of the Line calendars. All of his Trek work is pretty much amazing. He's come a long way... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QFOKVOp2rs&t=516s
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Jul 31, 2014 18:07
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I watched For the Uniform last night. I think it's my favorite Sisko episode. YOU BETRAYED YOUR UNIFORM!
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Jul 31, 2014 18:43
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Subyng posted:That one (and a few others) are from JJTrek Oh! Well, it looks drat good. I think this is possibly what I'm appreciating the most about this fan-film: the aesthetic has seamlessly blended together Enterprise, TOS, and JJTrek into a cohesive development spurred by the pressures of war.
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Jul 31, 2014 18:49
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revtoiletduck posted:I watched For the Uniform last night. I think it's my favorite Sisko episode. He played me all right. And what is my excuse? Is he a CHANGELING? NO. Is he a being with SEVEN lifetimes of experience? NO. Is he a wormhole alien? NO. He's just a man, like me. AND HE BEAT ME!
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Jul 31, 2014 18:51
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The directing in that is a little off. All the deliveries in the interviews are Really. loving. Slow. It has to be direction because they're all doing it. I agree the visual design is superb. Also I don't buy Apollo as a Klingon. He has zero energy although again, direction.
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Jul 31, 2014 18:55
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Blazing Ownager posted:Why does Hide And Q not get more attention for how absolutely holy loving poo poo hilarious it is? Worf's line about the "vicious animal things" is my favorite part. And their very flattering prediction about how Wesley would turn into a lantern-jawed jock.
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Jul 31, 2014 18:59
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Blazing Ownager posted:You know, I think Star Trek did set one unfortunate thing in sci-fi: The several-hundred-person-starship norm. There is no good reason for a spaceship to have humans on it at all, unless the entire purpose of the ship is to move humans, so you might as well go all out and do the city in space thing.
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Jul 31, 2014 19:13
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LLCoolJD posted:Worf's line about the "vicious animal things" is my favorite part. And their very flattering prediction about how Wesley would turn into a lantern-jawed jock. When my wife saw that for the first time, she burst out laughing and said "Will Wheaton wishes!"
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Jul 31, 2014 19:38
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That documentary looks amazing. Definitely something I never knew I wanted.revtoiletduck posted:YOU BETRAYED YOUR UNIFORM! MAJOR SHUT THAT THING OFF!
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Jul 31, 2014 19:42
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There's so much stuff on the Enterprise-D that you never see because of the budget. It's mostly just the bridge, hallways and ten foreward. I want to see a ship that is a literal city in space that has big, wide open areas with courtyards, stadiums and restaurants. Have entire forests growing in your ship. I'd like to see like, the Enterprise-H as an enormous ship that is a mobile space colony. I'd also love to see AI become commonplace in Trek and see a race of Soong-type androids in the Federation.
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Jul 31, 2014 19:50
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Gamma have you read the Culture novels yet?
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OtherworldlyInvader posted:There is no good reason for a spaceship to have humans on it at all, unless the entire purpose of the ship is to move humans, so you might as well go all out and do the city in space thing. This would be a funny recurring thing in any future Trek: "Captain Sulu, the race we've just encountered is broadcasting - let's see, we have override virus types theta, gamma, and gamma-three." "Gamma-three? Now there's a rare one. Any success?" "Firewall's bouncing them." "Well, we might as well call them up." Anyway, they also seem to have rugged and durable force fields and life support and poo poo, so carrying around some repairmen and scientific types, as well as people capable of strategic or diplomatic thinking that isn't just "how many kinetic kill warp bombs can I drop on your civilization before you notice I'm here?" What seems like a good way to use the concept without totally going full Culture would be if just about every Federation starship had probes they sling out whenever they're in an area and recall when they leave (or just leave in place), like the whisker things on seaquest. The Excelsior (or whatever) serves as a central vehicle for them, etc.
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Jul 31, 2014 20:23
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Thom12255 posted:The guys doing that TOS Kickstarter released a mini-film the other day - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Uywy0iflc Pro-click.
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Jul 31, 2014 21:00
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I submit to you, Star Trek thread, that the worst character in all of Star Trek is Kes. Everything about her is bad. If you are ever watching Voyager and she appears on screen, just skip it, unless it's a scene involving Tuvok because Tuvok might secretly be the best character in Trek.
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Jul 31, 2014 21:30
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Whoa, it's almost like the difference between a slickly produced fan film and one that's actually watchable was real actors. God that made the trailer for Renegades look embarrassingly bad (yes I know there were a few Trek actors in that mess).
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Jul 31, 2014 21:48
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Phy posted:Gamma have you read the Culture novels yet? No, I've just heard people talking about them and read a bit about the universe on wikipedia. It does kind of seem like the sorta thing the Federation would be like after a few centuries. If you do a Star Trek series that takes place a couple decades in the future, you need to show some technological advancement. If not, then it's just the same poo poo with a different paint job. However, if you make said society too advanced, you run the risk of making a future culture that's totally alien and difficult for people to relate to. I can't see a Star Trek show working where everyone is a bunch of transhuman brain-uploaded AIs or incorporeal space-gods or Q or what have you. The Federation seems to be really opposed to the idea of modifying the human body through genetic engineering and cybernetics after Khan and the Borg, too. I don't really like the idea of a Star Trek series where they all have easy access to time travel with a push of a button, because then people can go back and rewrite history whenever they feel like it. Someone died? Let's go back and make that never happen. I know they have the temporal prime directive but that can't account for everyone with access to time travel.
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Thom12255 posted:The guys doing that TOS Kickstarter released a mini-film the other day - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Uywy0iflc Holy poo poo. No speech from Archer in that stadium, and then this. Best non-canon thing I've ever seen, Galaxy Quest excepted.
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Jul 31, 2014 22:49
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:It may surprise you to learn that Kes was on Voyager for 4 of its 7 seasons. That's over half the show. The episode where she's going back in time was pretty OK I will admit, but everything else is just terrible. (She was only on Voyager for three seasons - one episode in season 4 to leave the series doesn't count.)
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Jul 31, 2014 22:52
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Nessus posted:I actually think Trek backed into a decent excuse for having manned craft, although I can certainly see the point that having such ridiculous numbers are, well, ridiculous. Didn't the Enterprise novels say the apparent downgrade in computer poo poo was because, spoilers, the Romulans started hacking everyone's starship cores and being incredibly smug about it, so instead of simply rolling over to their new Romulan overlords, Starfleet started building with more limited network/computer poo poo? If they did, they or Battlestar Galactica may have a valid lawsuit pending.
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Jul 31, 2014 23:00
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Well, that was pretty drat good. I'm in for $25.
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Jul 31, 2014 23:06
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Nessus posted:I actually think Trek backed into a decent excuse for having manned craft, The oft-quoted excuse in sci-fi is that seeing the action take place with humans is more exciting, but I think the same reasoning can work in-universe. Sure, we could build a fleet of unmanned ships to do the job, but we'd rather be there ourselves, close to the action. Hence, manned ships.
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Subyng posted:The oft-quoted excuse in sci-fi is that seeing the action take place with humans is more exciting, but I think the same reasoning can work in-universe. Sure, we could build a fleet of unmanned ships to do the job, but we'd rather be there ourselves, close to the action. Hence, manned ships. This came up on Voyager, but damned if I can remember the context. I think it might have been the episode where the warhead becomes sentient and attempts to fulfill its mission of blowing up.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Why does Hide And Q not get more attention for how absolutely holy loving poo poo hilarious it is? Gene Roddenberry was senile and ripped out of his mind on drugs by that point. His lawyer was literally doing rewrites on scripts. Blazing Ownager posted:You know, I think Star Trek did set one unfortunate thing in sci-fi: The several-hundred-person-starship norm. That's just space opera and the naval analogy. Red Warrior posted:He's come a long way... I think I see a "copyright 1988" notice in the bottom right there. I'm guessing those animations took hours or days to render. Gammatron 64 posted:There's so much stuff on the Enterprise-D that you never see because of the budget. It's mostly just the bridge, hallways and ten foreward. I want to see a ship that is a literal city in space that has big, wide open areas with courtyards, stadiums and restaurants. Have entire forests growing in your ship. I'd like to see like, the Enterprise-H as an enormous ship that is a mobile space colony. ... Star Trek: Macross, eh?  Nessus posted:I actually think Trek backed into a decent excuse for having manned craft, although I can certainly see the point that having such ridiculous numbers are, well, ridiculous. Didn't the Enterprise novels say the apparent downgrade in computer poo poo was because, spoilers, the Romulans started hacking everyone's starship cores and being incredibly smug about it, so instead of simply rolling over to their new Romulan overlords, Starfleet started building with more limited network/computer poo poo? Ugh. You might as well go full Star Trek doesn't do fully AI-driven combat because that's not what the series is going for. People pulling up the grating in the torpedo room in Star Trek II happened because Nicholas Meyer said he wanted a scene where they rolled out the guns, despite already knowing it was totally anachronistic and impractical. Spock says straight-up in The Ultimate Computer that an AI fought the ship more effectively than a fully trained and experienced crew could. (i haven't read any enterprise or post-DS9 or w/e novels) Blazing Ownager posted:If they did, they or Battlestar Galactica may have a valid lawsuit pending. are you seriously loving arguing that nobody wrote a story about a robot hacking a starship computer until the early 2000s
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Besides, that's still dumb as poo poo, because you can't copyright ideas.
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Jul 31, 2014 23:49
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I was always amazed that there is apparently a code you can input and take control of a Federation ship. Kirk did it in WoK, Picard did it in Pegasus, Sisko did it in the ep with Thomas Riker, etc. So there is apparently an easy way to just drop someones shields or stop their engines and all you need is a code, that apparently every other Captain has.
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Jul 31, 2014 23:56
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Star Trek: Macross, eh? As I typed that out, I was actually thinking of the SDF-1 Macross, so yeah. And you know, it kind of works because a lot of stuff from TNG was cribbed straight out of anime including Macross and Space Battleship Yamato.
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The whole idea of hacking ship computers and "tapping into" enemy systems and such is pretty stupid anyway. Like, all you have to do to prevent that is disconnect your computer from the space internet.
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Burning_Monk posted:I was always amazed that there is apparently a code you can input and take control of a Federation ship.
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Burning_Monk posted:Sisko did it in the ep with Thomas Riker Didn't Thomas perform the crazy solution of changing the password? ED: Also we're talking about the Federation here. If they're going on a suicide mission to the neutral zone, drat it, they're bringing the kids! The same people who didn't even passlock the PA system or sensors or access to the room with the giant warp core. Security is not their strong area. And I forgot the "I don't take changlings seriously, sorry" President that was so incompetent he started an equally insane response. It wouldn't surprise me if the Earth master power grid had a password of Password. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Earth's power grid's password was briefly changed to REDSQUADREDSQUADREDSQUAD before being reset to the default "admin"
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Crosscontaminant posted:There is also a code you can input and take control of my computer. I bet your computer has one too! Does your computer hold a thousand people inside it and also have dozens of multi-megaton weapons it can fire?
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