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DStecks posted:It's almost like a device designed specifically for playing games is better for playing games than a text-entry device and a menu-navigation device.
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The best and most correct way to play games on PC is with a one-handed joystick for movement and the mouse for mouselook. 
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Jul 31, 2014 09:06
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Have any of Crytek's games been good in the sense that people would play them for fun, and not just for the shiny graphics? They seem to have set up a lot of studios and bought up a lot of IPs for a company that hasn't made that many games.
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Jul 31, 2014 09:19
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Far Cry 1 - the original, dunno about the weird Xbox spinoffs - was a great game up until the annoying supermutant poo poo. Would've been better with quicksave, definitely, but it's a fine FPS.
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Jul 31, 2014 10:00
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I seem to recall hearing that the console version was actually better. Even though the premise was a touch goofier, having powers made all the bullshit in FC1 more bearable. 
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Jul 31, 2014 10:04
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3rd person games and platformers are the only things I find gamepads to be better for as a rule.
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Jul 31, 2014 10:28
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WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:Far Cry 1 - the original, dunno about the weird Xbox spinoffs - was a great game up until the annoying supermutant poo poo. Would've been better with quicksave, definitely, but it's a fine FPS. John Murdoch posted:I seem to recall hearing that the console version was actually better. Even though the premise was a touch goofier, having powers made all the bullshit in FC1 more bearable. It even got a sequel, Evolution. It had a tree-village gun fight.
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Jul 31, 2014 11:22
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Have any of Crytek's games been good in the sense that people would play them for fun, and not just for the shiny graphics? They seem to have set up a lot of studios and bought up a lot of IPs for a company that hasn't made that many games. Crysis was very good, Warhead was ace, Crysis 2 was OK and I really enjoyed Crysis 3 but I think I'm in the minority there.
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Jul 31, 2014 12:01
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Farcry 3 was good, so was Blood Dragon. But not because of the story or anything, but because there's not really any other games that let you hunt folks through a jungle like a cossack.
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Jul 31, 2014 12:08
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WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:Farcry 3 was good, so was Blood Dragon. Crytek didn't do FC3.
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Jul 31, 2014 14:42
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John Murdoch posted:The best and most correct way to play games on PC is with a one-handed joystick for movement and the mouse for mouselook. When I was 8 I played Doom with a flight stick.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:08
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RyokoTK posted:Darksiders 2. I've never played this game, but that DOES sound like something an evil demonic entity named The Lord of Bones would do.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:25
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10 Beers posted:I've never played this game, but that DOES sound like something an evil demonic entity named The Lord of Bones would do. Maybe he was ribbing you !!
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Jul 31, 2014 15:38
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WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:Maybe he was ribbing you !! So humerus!
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Jul 31, 2014 15:49
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kazil posted:This is silly the keyboard is such a poor tool for most types of video games. The only games that are actually better with a controller are platformers, certain third person games, and rhytmn games. I will never get people who play FPS games with controllers, it's like trying to eat soup with a fork, so constraining. For most quality genres, the keyboard and mouse are vastly superior. I've been playing a lot of War Thunder, and I dislike how annoyingly high cost the skilled gunners are in experience. It's probably one of those things deliberately high to push people to buy experience, but still, annoying. You have to have an equal number of skilled gunners as actual gunners on your plane or else you can't really level up their gunning above stormtrooper level accuracy, that I've seen anyway.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:04
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Sardonik posted:For most quality genres, the keyboard and mouse are vastly superior. 
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Jul 31, 2014 16:18
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10 Beers posted:I've never played this game, but that DOES sound like something an evil demonic entity named The Lord of Bones would do. He's the king of the underworld, and he's not really evil or demonic, just kind of a dick. Darksiders is pretty silly with its character design. e: Also in the third realm (so just after all the Lord of Bones stuff), in the first dungeon your objective is to find three pieces of a rod.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:20
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John Murdoch posted:The best and most correct way to play games on PC is with a one-handed joystick for movement and the mouse for mouselook. You joke but with certain games, using mouse with your right hand and this:  In your left hand actually is pretty awesome. Best of both worlds.
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Jul 31, 2014 17:34
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John Murdoch posted:The best and most correct way to play games on PC is with a one-handed joystick for movement and the mouse for mouselook. I only play my Japanese dating sims with my one handed joystick
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Jul 31, 2014 18:46
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I think it boils down to what you're more comfortable with. I grew up playing fps games on consoles, and as a result I'm a nervous wreck with a mouse. It may be a gratuitous amount of aim assist talking, but when I use my game pad in multiplayer shooter games on the pc I'm still in the top three most of the time.
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Jul 31, 2014 19:06
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bilperkins2 posted:You joke but with certain games, using mouse with your right hand and this: What is that? Because that seems like a good idea.
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Jul 31, 2014 19:10
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SpookyLizard posted:What is that? Because that seems like a good idea. It's the Playstation Move Navigation Controller, usually coupled with the PS Move controller similar to a Wii Nunchuck:  But they both independently sync via Bluetooth so you can connect just the Navigation Controller to your PC and use it without the PS Move controller. I use this with some shooters, mostly ones that have only a few buttons you'd need to press. It has two triggers on the back, for like a duck and jump button. edit: this isn't me, but here's a vid of someone using this setup on Battlefield 3, with links to how to set it up and whatnot in the description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVQE0fekdds bilperkins2 has a new favorite as of 20:07 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Jul 31, 2014 19:31
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RyokoTK posted:Darksiders 2. Playing Dark Siders 1, it felt like a God of War or Ninja Gaiden or any number of games like that (which I love), but it was just missing some small touches. Darksiders 2 comes along a fixes a ton of those, and it was great; but then out of no where, they toss in MMORPG-style items, quests and areas. Nothing kills it for me more quickly than this. I could tolerate it in Kingdoms of Amalur, but that too got excessive with the fetch quests - also, it's more in the RPG genre to begin with.
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Captain Lavender posted:Playing Dark Siders 1, it felt like a God of War or Ninja Gaiden or any number of games like that (which I love), but it was just missing some small touches. Darksiders 2 comes along a fixes a ton of those, and it was great; but then out of no where, they toss in MMORPG-style items, quests and areas. Nothing kills it for me more quickly than this. I could tolerate it in Kingdoms of Amalur, but that too got excessive with the fetch quests - also, it's more in the RPG genre to begin with. Darksiders 1 is a Zelda game, and it's brilliant. The fighting isn't quite as fleshed out as God of War or something, maybe, but the combination of exploration and puzzle solving and fighting was right up my alley. Darksiders 2 staples on a lot of more standard RPG elements and I don't think they mesh that well together.
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SpookyLizard posted:The PSX had a solid gamepad to begin with, but they added the sticks, and then didn't move the other face buttons to somewhere where you could use them AND retain use of the only really good thing about gamepads (the sticks). Face buttons and thumbsticks are both operated with your thumbs though. You only got so many thumbs. That's what the triggers are for.
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Jul 31, 2014 20:41
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RyokoTK posted:Darksiders 1 is a Zelda game, and it's brilliant. Yeah definately, Darksiders 1 was the best Zelda game that's been released in years.
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Jul 31, 2014 20:49
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swamp waste posted:Face buttons and thumbsticks are both operated with your thumbs though. You only got so many thumbs. That's what the triggers are for. Thats my point. It is dumb that they changed the design to include something youd always want (joysticks!), and then still have a bunch buttons that you cant use while using the sticks.
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Jul 31, 2014 20:53
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bilperkins2 posted:You joke but with certain games, using mouse with your right hand and this:
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SpookyLizard posted:Thats my point. It is dumb that they changed the design to include something youd always want (joysticks!), and then still have a bunch buttons that you cant use while using the sticks. 
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SpookyLizard posted:Thats my point. It is dumb that they changed the design to include something youd always want (joysticks!), and then still have a bunch buttons that you cant use while using the sticks. I'd rather have that then a setup which doesn't utilize my most powerful opposable digit at all unless I've got a specialty mouse.
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Do you mean your only opposable digit? I dont find my thumbs integral to my gaming with my mouse hand. I have a bunch of thumb buttons i use basically only when web browsing and in the occasional game when i remember they exist. I also wouldnt consider a mouse thumb buttons a speciality mouse. Not that there arent mice with thumb buttons that are speciality mice , just that they arent mutually inclusive. For gaming, flexible and customizable DPI settings are more important than a couple of extra buttons on the mouse.
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Jul 31, 2014 21:55
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Is there a video on how you would use this?
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Jul 31, 2014 22:17
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It looks pretty straightforward, it clips onto the controller and you push the triggers up with your index fingers or the side of your hand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fjIE-cKdAw I didn't watch the video but it probably explains it better than I can.
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Jul 31, 2014 22:23
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im pooping! posted:I didn't watch the video but it probably explains it better than I can. Nope. It doesn't. Don't bother. That poo poo's unwatchable. Just go with whatever you assume as far as how it works.
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This was made so that kids with motor problems and deformed hands could play videogames, so making fun of that is kind of dick move.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Have any of Crytek's games been good in the sense that people would play them for fun, and not just for the shiny graphics? They seem to have set up a lot of studios and bought up a lot of IPs for a company that hasn't made that many games. They're generally great games, with Crysis 2 being the exception. If you play them on the harder difficulties they're also genuine, non-bullshit challenges, and they give you enough freedom to use different methods that getting through situations using your own tactics is satisfying. Generally, I think they did a better job of the multi-approach gameplay than FC3, namely because you stick your thumb up your rear end, run into the middle of an encampment in FC3, spinning your mouse around in a circle while screaming, and end up managing to kill everything, so there being a "variety" of ways to approach situations in FC3 is pretty pointless since you can walk over any encounter without much effort. Speaking of that, I generally prefer FC2 for that reason, it was startlingly easy to die (although not brutally retarded like FC1), and there were some fantastic mechanics like guns jamming and the buddy system, along with the fact that the AI was generally competent and clever and had tons of little tricks. The pacing was off (as many people will tell you) but the core gameplay of FC2, along with its mechanics are generally better to me and more in line with what Crytek was trying to do with the original FC (and ended up accomplishing generally in Crysis), which was to provide a bevy of options and make using those options well necessary because the game wasn't so easy as to let you just walk right through it.
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I'm just gonna say that I think the GameCube controller is the best console controller - mainly because it doesn't support "Stick-click" controls. I really don't get why game developers think its a good idea to have the player run by having to hold in a control-stick and yet it seems to show up in a lot of fps'.
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Most GameCube games had the controller's slightly non-standard face button layout in mind when designing it, so it worked out fine. However, it was awkward using them to play SNES games on the Wii's virtual console. Lots of games have you run with Y and jump with B, so you often had to stretch your thumb a long way, partly over the A button when playing Super Mario World, Super Metroid, or Donkey Kong Country. Later Nintendo controllers also forgot that the GameCube had those analog R and L triggers that measured how you pushed on them. The Rogue Squadron games were the only ones I remembered that made use of that, but it's still annoying to need that controller for those games and another ideally to play virtual console games.
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scarycave posted:I'm just gonna say that I think the GameCube controller is the best console controller - mainly because it doesn't support "Stick-click" controls. I really don't get why game developers think its a good idea to have the player run by having to hold in a control-stick and yet it seems to show up in a lot of fps'. R1 or L1 are far better run buttons. I hate the stick click in any scenario you have to hold it down.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:This was made so that kids with motor problems and deformed hands could play videogames, so making fun of that is kind of dick move. Actually the one I posted is commercially marketed to provide an "advantage" by freeing the players' thumbs from button presses. There is a company called Special Effect(as far as I can tell, it is a not-for-profit charity) that designs custom controllers for gamers with motor disibilities. You may have read about it in GI magazine a few months back, but here is a link to the article. It's pretty informative and also kinda 
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