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SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!
sorry :blush: I haven't lived in a place with a crawl space for 4 years, I forgot those exist.

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Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.

the posted:





So, what... is there a splitter somewhere in this house that all of these cables meet at?

I wish you luck in exploring your crawl space but I worry that the other end of this cable is cut. I would also suggest you may want to replace this cable based on the condition it's in or at least use some electrical tape to wrap that end up. Open wiring like that always makes me nervous.

Edit: the cable looks like it's frayed. But it's tough to tell on my phone.

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

Sticky posted:

I wish you luck in exploring your crawl space but I worry that the other end of this cable is cut. I would also suggest you may want to replace this cable based on the condition it's in or at least use some electrical tape to wrap that end up. Open wiring like that always makes me nervous.

Edit: the cable looks like it's frayed. But it's tough to tell on my phone.

I had no idea what you were talking about until I looked closer. The 'wiring' is only part of the jacket. It's non essential and carries nothing, just looks amateur.

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

the posted:

Thanks that was helpful. I went out back and what do we have here:



A cable comes out from the ground and goes into that box. And then a cable comes out of that and goes into the wall:

You can see here that two others are cut. Looks like another coaxial and an ethernet?



I also checked the wall plate that I want to plug into, and it has a cable going... somewhere?



So, what... is there a splitter somewhere in this house that all of these cables meet at?

How many cable outlets do you have in your house? It could be that the cut coax cable sticking out of the wall there is the one that runs to your office.

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.
^^^^
Thats exactly what I'm thinking too.


SeaborneClink posted:

I had no idea what you were talking about until I looked closer. The 'wiring' is only part of the jacket. It's non essential and carries nothing, just looks amateur.

Looking at it now on a larger screen I can see that now. Purely cosmetic. It was a little harder to tell from my phone.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

n0tqu1tesane posted:

How many cable outlets do you have in your house? It could be that the cut coax cable sticking out of the wall there is the one that runs to your office.

2 :smith:

So, if it's the cut one, how can I fix that? Can I cap that with a coaxial plug on the end somehow?

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

the posted:

2 :smith:

So, if it's the cut one, how can I fix that? Can I cap that with a coaxial plug on the end somehow?

Well, the problem is that it looks like its too far in the wall to work on.

If you can grab hold of it with some needle nose pliers ...



...and pull out enough slack to work with, then you can terminate the end of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQNXlyz_dQ

You don't really have to buy a special tool to strip the end of the cable...you can do it with a utility knife.

Kameh
Apr 27, 2004

Resident Sergio Apologist
CHAMPION
I didn't even think to check for an AT&T thread until today! I've been with AT&T for TV and Internet for one year, and my family switched to AT&T from Verizon about 2 months ago.

Okay, question for the retention reps.

I moved to the Houston area last summer and got the whole enchilada (U450 + HD + DVR + Max Plus internet) for a promotional pricing of ~$150 + a Nexus 7 tablet. Coming from Time Warner, this was a night and day difference. I've only suffered an outage once. All in all, a pretty awesome deal.

My promotional pricing expires today, and in anticipation of this, I started shopping around at the beginning of July. I was kicking around going to Comcast because a friend switched to their internet and said it's crazy fast, but I've heard nothing but horror stories otherwise. I found a package for new AT&T customers that was $84 / month for U300 + Max Plus + free HBO for 12 months. With HD and DVR, it would have come to around $100, which sounds terrific to my wife since we don't really watch any other premium channel besides HBO. I was going to add that bundle to my "basket" online, but I didn't really know what would happen (DOUBLE CHARGED?!), so I got on the phone and spoke to a retention rep. The first rep I spoke to said said she could apply that to my account RIGHT THEN, but I somewhat foolishly sat on the offer, talked it over with my wife, and called back a few hours later to accept, only to speak to a different rep who was completely baffled by the first rep's offer. He said, "I have no idea why she even told you that; we can't make changes to an account like that within a promotional pricing period." He apologized, promised that he gained nothing by not offering me that original deal, and instead offered me a $100 discount, made a note of what offer I was calling about, and told me to call back on the 16th to hopefully get the deal I wanted.

Well, it's the 16th, so I called back. I just got off the phone with a rep who could only manage $140 for U300 + HD + DVR + HBO (a la carte), but she "spoke to a supervisor" and came up with a deal that subtracts $60 from my bill every month for 12 months and leaves all of my services the same, putting me about $20 cheaper per month. This is not bad, either, but I was looking forward to a ~$100 cable and internet bill. I asked her what was stopping me from just cancelling my service and then reapplying as a new customer to get that new promotion, and she said, "Nothing, but you'd have to return your equipment and apply all over again with a credit check; you'll probably be without service for a week or more." I asked if she could just do that for me as an upstanding customer, but no dice. My wife would kill me, so I took her offer to keep my contract the same with a slight discount.

tl;dr First world problems, I know, but did I give up too easily? Is it really impossible to just apply what I wanted? I mean, if they could just apply $ discounts, why not apply the appropriate $ amount as a discount?

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

Kameh posted:

I didn't even think to check for an AT&T thread until today! I've been with AT&T for TV and Internet for one year, and my family switched to AT&T from Verizon about 2 months ago.

Okay, question for the retention reps.

I moved to the Houston area last summer and got the whole enchilada (U450 + HD + DVR + Max Plus internet) for a promotional pricing of ~$150 + a Nexus 7 tablet. Coming from Time Warner, this was a night and day difference. I've only suffered an outage once. All in all, a pretty awesome deal.

My promotional pricing expires today, and in anticipation of this, I started shopping around at the beginning of July. I was kicking around going to Comcast because a friend switched to their internet and said it's crazy fast, but I've heard nothing but horror stories otherwise. I found a package for new AT&T customers that was $84 / month for U300 + Max Plus + free HBO for 12 months. With HD and DVR, it would have come to around $100, which sounds terrific to my wife since we don't really watch any other premium channel besides HBO. I was going to add that bundle to my "basket" online, but I didn't really know what would happen (DOUBLE CHARGED?!), so I got on the phone and spoke to a retention rep. The first rep I spoke to said said she could apply that to my account RIGHT THEN, but I somewhat foolishly sat on the offer, talked it over with my wife, and called back a few hours later to accept, only to speak to a different rep who was completely baffled by the first rep's offer. He said, "I have no idea why she even told you that; we can't make changes to an account like that within a promotional pricing period." He apologized, promised that he gained nothing by not offering me that original deal, and instead offered me a $100 discount, made a note of what offer I was calling about, and told me to call back on the 16th to hopefully get the deal I wanted.

Well, it's the 16th, so I called back. I just got off the phone with a rep who could only manage $140 for U300 + HD + DVR + HBO (a la carte), but she "spoke to a supervisor" and came up with a deal that subtracts $60 from my bill every month for 12 months and leaves all of my services the same, putting me about $20 cheaper per month. This is not bad, either, but I was looking forward to a ~$100 cable and internet bill. I asked her what was stopping me from just cancelling my service and then reapplying as a new customer to get that new promotion, and she said, "Nothing, but you'd have to return your equipment and apply all over again with a credit check; you'll probably be without service for a week or more." I asked if she could just do that for me as an upstanding customer, but no dice. My wife would kill me, so I took her offer to keep my contract the same with a slight discount.

tl;dr First world problems, I know, but did I give up too easily? Is it really impossible to just apply what I wanted? I mean, if they could just apply $ discounts, why not apply the appropriate $ amount as a discount?

If this did involve signing a new contract, you are in a tighter position. My recommendation would be to call them back and firmly tell them you would like the deal you originally were promised or you will be canceling. Keep firm with it. They may call your bluff however. Usually they do not. You might have to be ready to call comcast or something. But if you were promised a certain deal, go high enough in the chain until they make good on it. Thats just my 2 cents.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber
I had a mall kiosk guy claiming I could save money if I changed my cell plan to a more current offering, but the more I look at it, the worse deal it seems to be. Can someone check my math or something?

Right now my bill looks like this:

code:
Nation 450 $39.99
Messaging Unlimited $10
Data Pro 2gb $25
Nat'l Acct Discount -$13.65 CR

Total without taxes $61.34
I'm pretty sure that discount is 24% off my base plan thanks to a "FAN code," but I cant figure out which parts of my bill are discounted to figure that out for sure.

Now I'm looking at the new "mobile share plans," and this is what I'm seeing as long as I keep using my current device:

code:
2gb Mobile Share Value $40 minus 24%, $30.40
Device $25

Total $55.40
That small savings looks great for now, but my device is nearing 2 years old and I assume I'll be looking at an iPhone 6 in a few months. When I upgrade, that device fee seems to jumps to $40 and put my pre-tax bill over $70 for the next two years --almost $10 more than I'm paying right now for the same amount of data. What am I missing here? Why does mall kiosk guy think this is a good idea?

I'm tempted by the Tmo $30 unlimited data/100minute prepaid plan. Dividing a $650 unlocked iPhone over 24 months, plus that $30 plan looks like a total of $57/mo+tax, but if I jump ship then regret it, or Tmo quits pricing so aggressively, I will have lost my current grandfathered ATT plan.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

eddiewalker posted:

I had a mall kiosk guy claiming I could save money if I changed my cell plan to a more current offering, but the more I look at it, the worse deal it seems to be. Can someone check my math or something?

Right now my bill looks like this:

code:
Nation 450 $39.99
Messaging Unlimited $10
Data Pro 2gb $25
Nat'l Acct Discount -$13.65 CR

Total without taxes $61.34
I'm pretty sure that discount is 24% off my base plan thanks to a "FAN code," but I cant figure out which parts of my bill are discounted to figure that out for sure.

Now I'm looking at the new "mobile share plans," and this is what I'm seeing as long as I keep using my current device:

code:
2gb Mobile Share Value $40 minus 24%, $30.40
Device $25

Total $55.40
That small savings looks great for now, but my device is nearing 2 years old and I assume I'll be looking at an iPhone 6 in a few months. When I upgrade, that device fee seems to jumps to $40 and put my pre-tax bill over $70 for the next two years --almost $10 more than I'm paying right now for the same amount of data. What am I missing here? Why does mall kiosk guy think this is a good idea?

I'm tempted by the Tmo $30 unlimited data/100minute prepaid plan. Dividing a $650 unlocked iPhone over 24 months, plus that $30 plan looks like a total of $57/mo+tax, but if I jump ship then regret it, or Tmo quits pricing so aggressively, I will have lost my current grandfathered ATT plan.

Yeah its a bit tougher for you because your discount goes off of the base plan ($40) and the data plan ($25), where as on the new plan it only goes off the $40.

Its also cheaper because you are getting a reduced text plan that is no longer offered. So yeah, in your case your plan will be better than the new mobile share plans on ATT.

Mall kiosk guy thinks its a good idea because that is how he gets paid and keeps his job.

Personally, I would just keep what you have.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


Do MMS count against the data cap? We're on a family share plan so we have unlimited SMS but a very low data cap; I'm unclear if MMS actually use data or if they just require it to be on and there's some fuckery on AT&T's end to make it not count against.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

Do MMS count against the data cap? We're on a family share plan so we have unlimited SMS but a very low data cap; I'm unclear if MMS actually use data or if they just require it to be on and there's some fuckery on AT&T's end to make it not count against.

Yes it uses data.

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

Duckman2008 posted:

Yes it uses data.

Since when does it count against your data bucket?£

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

EbolaIvory posted:

Since when does it count against your data bucket?£

I've assumed it always does. MMS only works when data is on.

I could be wrong I guess, but it does use the data pipeline.

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

Duckman2008 posted:

I've assumed it always does. MMS only works when data is on.

I could be wrong I guess, but it does use the data pipeline.

They're billed against your messaging, even though they use data to send/receive.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

Duckman2008 posted:

I've assumed it always does. MMS only works when data is on.

I could be wrong I guess, but it does use the data pipeline.

It doesnt count against your bucket.

Also, great news. I'm going back to att.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Beefstorm posted:

It doesnt count against your bucket.

Also, great news. I'm going back to att.

Employment wise or service wise? Lol either way what happened?

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

Beefstorm posted:

It doesnt count against your bucket.

Also, great news. I'm going back to att.

:allears:
you can never leave wireless

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.

SeaborneClink posted:

:allears:
you can never leave wireless

:negative:

I can never go back.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy
Banking is less doing things financially sound for the customer and just selling them crap they don't need. I can do that just fine without killing my morals at AT&T.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Beefstorm posted:

Banking is less doing things financially sound for the customer and just selling them crap they don't need. I can do that just fine without killing my morals at AT&T.

Yeah, for some reason the banks feel that since they're "holding" your money they should get to use it as they please. Or at least that's what I found in my one day as a financial consultant.

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

Kaizoku posted:

Yeah, for some reason the banks feel that since they're "holding" your money they should get to use it as they please. Or at least that's what I found in my one day as a financial consultant.
Technically, your deposit is a loan to a bank. If you bank somewhere where they charge you fees on your deposits you are banking with the wrong institution.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

adorai posted:

Technically, your deposit is a loan to a bank. If you bank somewhere where they charge you fees on your deposits you are banking with the wrong institution.

No, see, your money shouldn't be in savings, when we can make your money work for you. Btw, you haven't taken out a loan for a car in a while, don't you think you deserve a new one?

Helpimscared
Jun 16, 2014

Please unlock the bootloader for the Galaxy Note 3, its really annoying being restricted to the default kernel and having the inability to use ASOP roms

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

Helpimscared posted:

Please unlock the bootloader for the Galaxy Note 3, its really annoying being restricted to the default kernel and having the inability to use ASOP roms

Please buy a phone that does what you want out of the box.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy
AT&T reps out there. Anything big change since I've been gone?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Beefstorm posted:

AT&T reps out there. Anything big change since I've been gone?

Hope you like selling Digital Life. And that's literally it.

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.

Beefstorm posted:

AT&T reps out there. Anything big change since I've been gone?

There was a fire...

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

Sticky posted:

There was a fire...

I read this post hours ago and I just got it.

BobbyDrake
Mar 13, 2005

I have a HTC One M7 that's on Next, and the 12 months will be up in September. I'd like to give it back and get whatever the new iPhone will be, however, the sticker that was on the back of the phone with the IMEI and serial number and all that has come off of it in the past year. Also, there's a few scratches on the screen, nothing major but enough to be easily noticed. How screwed am I?

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004
I'm currently grandfathered into the Unlimited Plan with AT&T and was wondering what the cap on the data is. I understand that its not technically "unlimited" so where is the cap? Or is it unlimited but if AT&T sees significant data usage they'll put a cap on it?

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

BobbyDrake posted:

I have a HTC One M7 that's on Next, and the 12 months will be up in September. I'd like to give it back and get whatever the new iPhone will be, however, the sticker that was on the back of the phone with the IMEI and serial number and all that has come off of it in the past year. Also, there's a few scratches on the screen, nothing major but enough to be easily noticed. How screwed am I?

Not screwed at all. Your screen has to be cracked or major damage to the housing to not be able to upgrade. You'll be fine.

Busy Bee posted:

I'm currently grandfathered into the Unlimited Plan with AT&T and was wondering what the cap on the data is. I understand that its not technically "unlimited" so where is the cap? Or is it unlimited but if AT&T sees significant data usage they'll put a cap on it?

3gb on 3g. 5gb on 4g. After that they throttle you.

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004

Beefstorm posted:

3gb on 3g. 5gb on 4g. After that they throttle you.

What kind of speeds would I expect when throttled?

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

Busy Bee posted:

What kind of speeds would I expect when throttled?

Probably around 2g speeds. I've never been on unlimited so someone else needs to answer this.

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

Beefstorm posted:

Probably around 2g speeds. I've never been on unlimited so someone else needs to answer this.

Depending what you're doing. Like, Facebook and what not. Its not to bad. And I've only ever seen a few people actually get throttled. Now this was back in my ATT days, but still.

Helpimscared
Jun 16, 2014

nimper posted:

Please buy a phone that does what you want out of the box.

I learned what should have been obvious the hard way.

All my prior Samsung android phones had the ability so I didn't think twice.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

I don't remember 2G speeds so maybe that's what it was, but the one time I was throttled it was loving terrible. It was early on in AT&T's throttling so maybe they changed how they do it now. It was when they were throttling the "top 5%" or whatever they used, instead of a given threshold. If I wasn't on WiFi it was basically unusable.

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Beefstorm posted:

Probably around 2g speeds. I've never been on unlimited so someone else needs to answer this.

Should the speed go back to 3g/4g at the beginning of the next billing cycle? Like if you hit the cap on the last day of the cycle, you only have to deal with reduced speeds for the rest of the day?

I still have unlimited and I haven't gotten close to the cap but back in the day I heard rumors of reduced speed for months.

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Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

GoodBee posted:

Should the speed go back to 3g/4g at the beginning of the next billing cycle? Like if you hit the cap on the last day of the cycle, you only have to deal with reduced speeds for the rest of the day?

I still have unlimited and I haven't gotten close to the cap but back in the day I heard rumors of reduced speed for months.

Should rest at the beginning of the month.

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