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Uh, what kind of game is Sacred 3 then?
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Aug 1, 2014 06:24
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SynthOrange posted:Uh, what kind of game is Sacred 3 then? As far as I can tell, a worse Dungeon Siege 3.
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Aug 1, 2014 06:26
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Orv posted:As far as I can tell, a worse Dungeon Siege 3. Aha wow, I was just reading Orv posted:So if you've played Sacred 2, or any ARPG really, think about what defines the experiences of that genre for you. Randomized, awesome loot. A character progression system through both loot and skill upgrades. Many different play experiences with each of the different classes in a game. A fair amount of (within a somewhat linear framework) exploratory freedom. and Dungeon Siege 3 was immediately what I thought of. To be fair Sacred 1/2 weren't that great to begin with, so it's not like the series is going too far down hill.
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Aug 1, 2014 06:28
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The store page calls it an "arcade hack 'n' slash" so I think they weren't exactly trying for ARPG mechanics.
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Aug 1, 2014 06:29
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Kibayasu posted:Just turn off voice recognition. It adds absolutely nothing.  > Bo > I love you
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Aug 1, 2014 06:30
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Lance Streetman posted:The store page calls it an "arcade hack 'n' slash" so I think they weren't exactly trying for ARPG mechanics. Why call it Sacred 3 then though, a series that is pretty much Diablo?
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Aug 1, 2014 06:30
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No loving clue. It seems like it would be better to call it a spin-off, but what do I know.
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Aug 1, 2014 06:31
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Lance Streetman posted:The store page calls it an "arcade hack 'n' slash" so I think they weren't exactly trying for ARPG mechanics. FrickenMoron posted:Why call it Sacred 3 then though, a series that is pretty much Diablo? I mean, Sacred 2 nearly destroyed them as a studio, so I don't exactly blame them for wanting to get away from it. At the same time, there are a lot of people who swear by Sacred as the One True Diablo Successor, so they done hosed up by calling it Sacred 3.
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Aug 1, 2014 06:32
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FrickenMoron posted:Why call it Sacred 3 then though, a series that is pretty much Diablo?
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Aug 1, 2014 07:19
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Orv posted:I mean, Sacred 2 nearly destroyed them as a studio, so I don't exactly blame them for wanting to get away from it. At the same time, there are a lot of people who swear by Sacred as the One True Diablo Successor, so they done hosed up by calling it Sacred 3. I think more than anything, they done hosed up because the game is just plain lovely. Dungeon Siege 3 had some redeemable qualities to it. Sacred 3 is just a poo poo game. If it was a different kind of game from the first two but still good, there would still be crybabies but they wouldn't get as much hate.
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Aug 1, 2014 07:28
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Seventh Arrow posted:Yes, it's some fun tower defence, especially in co-oop - although it's worth it to go through the SP campaign a bit just to see what the different traps and weapons do. The DLC adds some fun maps and weapons. I also made a dumb mod that lets you cheat cheat cheat, should you get bored with the base game. Awesome thanks for the post. The DLC version isn't much so I'll check it out. Can I set the difficulty level and it's not *too* hard? How does it compare to newest sanctum?
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Aug 1, 2014 07:52
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Orv posted:As far as I can tell, a worse Dungeon Siege 3. I played it last week, it's... I can't argue this, and I really enjoyed DS3. S3 is very clearly a controller-designed hack and slash title, except it's a bit more combatitive than cooperative in terms of the scoring and things. On the one hand, if what attracted you to the Sacred universe was the incredibly silly writing and gameplay was just Some poo poo You Do To Kill Time/Listen to Podcasts (ie, you are me), it works well enough and I would recommend getting it when the price drops a little. If you want a straight Sacred 1/2 sequel, though (which I admit I really did, a bit... Sacred Citadel disappointed me somewhat), this is not that. In fact, it's really more of an isometric Sacred Citadel sequel.
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Aug 1, 2014 08:06
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I think more than anything, they done hosed up because the game is just plain lovely. Dungeon Siege 3 had some redeemable qualities to it. Sacred 3 is just a poo poo game. If it was a different kind of game from the first two but still good, there would still be crybabies but they wouldn't get as much hate. Why didn't they refocus their development if making a game like Sacred 2 nearly ruined them? You'd think making smaller games of different types that fit your capability better would be the right decision, not trying to make a Sacred sort of game but with all the things that are hard to develop stripped out.
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Aug 1, 2014 08:06
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Orv posted:So if you've played Sacred 2, or any ARPG really, think about what defines the experiences of that genre for you. Randomized, awesome loot. A character progression system through both loot and skill upgrades. Many different play experiences with each of the different classes in a game. A fair amount of (within a somewhat linear framework) exploratory freedom. Man, even Dungeon Siege 3 had those things. I mean they were all terribly boring, but at least they were there! Edit: Apparently I missed a whole page of other people also slagging on DS3 and now I feel late to the party and a little bad for Dungeon Siege 3. 
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Aug 1, 2014 08:42
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It's okay Dungeon Siege 3, you don't have to listen to the big bad forum posters, I love you just the way you are.
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Aug 1, 2014 08:45
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Occultatio posted:Btw QUBE is really, really excellent and worth getting the $1 tier for all on its own. It is an astonishingly elegantly-designed first-person puzzle game with light platforming elements, and the difficulty curve is so well-balanced that you will feel like a loving genius multiple points without ever getting really frustrated. Seriously you should buy and play it if you haven't; I would hold it up alongside Portal and Braid as one of the best examples of puzzle design in videogames. Thanks for the recommendation. Qube does indeed own.
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Aug 1, 2014 08:53
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FrickenMoron posted:Why call it Sacred 3 then though, a series that is pretty much Diablo? That almost didn't stop 2k from calling a cover shooter, XCOM
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Aug 1, 2014 09:02
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PostNouveau posted:Thanks for the recommendation. Qube does indeed own. Just got to the magnet sections. Qube can go gently caress itself.
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Aug 1, 2014 10:10
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PostNouveau posted:Just got to the magnet sections. Qube can go gently caress itself. Yeah when I got it this is where I stopped too
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Aug 1, 2014 11:20
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Allarion posted:That is what happens when a genre name is also a common anime girl's name. otome - 乙女 - just means "young lady". It's a sign that the game is aimed at women, not men, and if you think that means that they couldn't possibly be pornographic, you should probably ask some of the women you know if they actually like sex.
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Aug 1, 2014 11:31
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What the hell is Lovely Planet and why does my brother keep talking about this game
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Aug 1, 2014 11:32
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:What the hell is Lovely Planet and why does my brother keep talking about this game https://www.pcgamer.com/review/lovely-planet-review/ I like, the music https://www.calumbowen.bandcamp.com/album/lovely-planet-original-soundtrack
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Aug 1, 2014 11:40
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Lord Lambeth posted:It's okay Dungeon Siege 3, you don't have to listen to the big bad forum posters, I love you just the way you are. I love DS3 as well. It's just closer to Dark Alliance than a traditional PC ARPG. Sacred 3 still looks dire.
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Aug 1, 2014 11:59
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Lance Streetman posted:The store page calls it an "arcade hack 'n' slash" so I think they weren't exactly trying for ARPG mechanics. So, essentially it's the inverse of Dragon's Crown?
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Aug 1, 2014 12:39
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Trying to make my way around in The Fall but the interface is atrocious. Hunting around the screen for tiny interaction points then you have to hold and activate a tiny nav menu to interact with them. The rest of the game looks interesting but goddamn how you get to it is the worst.
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Aug 1, 2014 12:44
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So I'm eyeing up Space Rangers HD...but what is it exactly? A roguelike where you can lose because the galaxy moved on without you, an arcade game that constantly spawns battles in star systems or what? I've heard good things about the game but I'm clueless as to what it actually is.
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Aug 1, 2014 12:54
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It's sort of like if EV Nova worked on a system similar to Fallout's battle mechanics. And also there are text adventures and RTS sections. Also I guess $1 for QUBE isn't bad but given that it's just the base game (which isn't even actually available to buy anymore otherwise) it seems a bit of a cop-out. Although who knows, maybe I'll fall in love with it and nab the director's cut out of sheer curiosity.
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Aug 1, 2014 12:58
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poptart_fairy posted:So I'm eyeing up Space Rangers HD...but what is it exactly? A roguelike where you can lose because the galaxy moved on without you, an arcade game that constantly spawns battles in star systems or what? I've heard good things about the game but I'm clueless as to what it actually is. You pilot your ship and you wander around taking missions, shooting up bad guys or entering fishing competition text adventures. Seriously.
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Aug 1, 2014 13:01
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Well alright then. Can't say no to that for three quid!
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Aug 1, 2014 13:02
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Space Rangers is a bit like Sid Meier's Pirates. Every element of the game is essentially a different genre, and you're free to go where you want while the universe does its own thing. Other rangers fight bad guys or trade or attack one another, and their rankings constantly change. It rules and has one of the cheesiest, funniest opening cinematics in game history.
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Aug 1, 2014 13:04
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Christoff posted:Awesome thanks for the post. The DLC version isn't much so I'll check it out. Can I set the difficulty level and it's not *too* hard? How does it compare to newest sanctum? I don't know how it compares to Sanctum but it's better to set it to hard only if you're playing co-op. If you're playing SP, set it to easy at first because you can get easily overwhelmed. I guess the main thing to remember is that you get more money from higher combo points; higher combo points come from how much damage an orc takes at one time. So if the orc steps into your grinder while also being hit by your flame trap and also taking damage from your weapon, that's three combo points (and possibly one freebie point, I'm not sure). More combo points, more money to spend on traps!
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Aug 1, 2014 13:08
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Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:Space Rangers is a bit like Sid Meier's Pirates. Every element of the game is essentially a different genre, and you're free to go where you want while the universe does its own thing. Other rangers fight bad guys or trade or attack one another, and their rankings constantly change. It rules and has one of the cheesiest, funniest opening cinematics in game history. I don't think that amazing intro is in the HD version though
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Aug 1, 2014 13:35
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I too tried Binary Domain's voice recognition system last night. It would be pretty cool and immersive if it worked well. And it works well on, like, 75% of phrases, but it gets hung up on the most basic stuff to a maddening degree. For example, I can't tell a character "Yes," for example, because it always recognizes the word as "Nice." The only way it differentiates and registers "Yes" is if I say it in a hilariously drawn out, five-second-long Shmorky voice. So gently caress that, I guess. Back to Tab-pushing. Still, I'm enjoying the game ao far. I like the characters and squad trust mechanics, and the combat is okay.
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Aug 1, 2014 13:43
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Luisfe posted:I don't think that amazing intro is in the HD version though I haven't reloaded the game yet to see if it applies to that particular movie, but this morning before work I noticed that there's an "intro movies on/off" toggle in options that is off by default. Trustworthy fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Aug 1, 2014 13:48
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Mokinokaro posted:I love DS3 as well. It's just closer to Dark Alliance than a traditional PC ARPG. I think DS3 is worth exactly one playthrough. It's not a bad game by any means, just a very generic one. If you go into it knowing that it basically has nothing in common with the original DS games and only references a few names and locations, it's fine as an action RPG with some fun combat.
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Aug 1, 2014 13:53
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I think more than anything, they done hosed up because the game is just plain lovely. Dungeon Siege 3 had some redeemable qualities to it. Sacred 3 is just a poo poo game. If it was a different kind of game from the first two but still good, there would still be crybabies but they wouldn't get as much hate. Have you played the game yet? From the trailers, it looks pretty decent as an action game. I doubt it's worth 50 bucks, but it looks like a good 10$ pickup. Edit: At this point, ARPG loot has become the standard WoW style gear levels (except for a few games like Torchlight and Path of Exile.) It's not a huge loss to exclude loot from the game ... it just means people won't compulsively play the game to farm items. Tezzeract fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Aug 1, 2014 14:20
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With all this Sacred-3-is-a-poo poo-ARPG talk going around, I'm curious what some good ARPG's are. The most recent one I played was Kingdoms of Amalur and I'm firmly in the camp that enjoyed it from start to finish. That said, I haven't played too many so I'm sure I'm missing out on some ones that are objectively better than KoA. And recommendations to add to my backlog?
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Aug 1, 2014 14:43
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Torchlight 2 / Torchlight (or its even older descendants FATE and FATE Undiscovered Realms) - very moddable, can be played offline Path of Exile - always online, faithful to Diablo 2 mechanics, constant content updates Diablo 3 - not on Steam, always online, very easy to get into Marvel Heroes - always online, admittedly I do not know as much about this apart from it's being developed by the former lead for Blizzard North/Diablo 2 EDIT: Oh my gosh how could I have forgotten about The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing. That was the best ARPG I played before the Diablo 3 expansion hit. gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Aug 1, 2014 14:49
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If you're looking for stuff more like Amalur give Divinity 2 a shot. The world isn't quite as open but its got fun combat, well designed quests, a good sense of humor without being a complete joke, and you get to turn into a loving dragon. Most people are talking about stuff closer to Diablo or Torchlight when they discuss arpgs though. Action games with rpg style character and skill systems. Of those style games the big ones I can recommend are Sacred 1 and 2, Torchlight 2, incredible adventures of van helsing. There's also marvel heroes but it doesn't have the same loot aspect since there's no visual customisation. A lot of people also like path of exile but I personally can't get into it at all. Still it's free so trying it can't hurt.
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Aug 1, 2014 14:52
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Mokinokaro posted:If you're looking for stuff more like Amalur give Divinity 2 a shot. The world isn't quite as open but its got fun combat, well designed quests, a good sense of humor without being a complete joke, and you get to turn into a loving dragon. And what's the name of that fantasy (A)RPG that came out recently that had everyone really divided on it? "Third-person fantasy" is such a generic setting but the only other thing I can remember is that you can cast spells and it's somewhat more punishing a la Dark Souls? And sarcasm - I remember reviews saying there was an inordinate amount of sass from all the NPC's. Sorry, I can't remember much more about it.
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Aug 1, 2014 15:05
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