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mcmagic posted:The best card in the set was a manadork. End scene. Brimaz doesn't tap for mana??? (Neither does Kragma Butcher, if we're discounting mythics and rares.)
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ungulateman posted:Brimaz doesn't tap for mana??? you can usually judge a set well based on how many playables it provides outside of standard.
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Aug 1, 2014 20:53
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ungulateman posted:Brimaz doesn't tap for mana??? Courser of Kurphix.
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Aug 1, 2014 20:56
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Gensuki posted:Why are m15 and khans so great when everything else has been so mediocre? Is it always like this when a new set is announced? Innistrad was amazing until the third set.
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Aug 1, 2014 20:57
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mcmagic posted:The best card in the set was a manadork. End scene. I assume you're talking about Courser, but I personally would give it to Brimaz. LaTex Fetish posted:you can usually judge a set well based on how many playables it provides outside of standard. Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but Brimaz is definetely played outside of standard.
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Aug 1, 2014 20:57
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Angry Grimace posted:I assume you're talking about Courser, but I personally would give it to Brimaz. Spirit of the Labyrinth has been showing up in Death and Taxes too. Born of the Gods wasn't great for drafting (it was fun doing it twice, got tiring after that), but drat, some of its cards are amazing.
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Aug 1, 2014 20:59
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I love how they emphasized the serpent side of the naga here so much, it is hard to tell if Khan Sidisi is male or female.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:00
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Pharohman777 posted:I love how they emphasized the serpent side of the naga here so much, it is hard to tell if Khan Sidisi is male or female. I was telling people she was a female because that was what I recalled from the panel, but all of the blogs said it was a dude. Then again, all the blogs reported that Rosewater said there would likely be a three-color planeswalker in Khans, despite the fact that he totally did not say that and said "its something we'd like to do again, but I'm not saying soon."
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Aug 1, 2014 21:02
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Angry Grimace posted:Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but Brimaz is definetely played outside of standard. I know.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:02
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v v I liked JBT draft more than any draft format since ISD-ISD-ISD or M13. Tribute was a bad mechanic but it didn't ruin anything. Inspired is uninspired, and not a build-around-me mechanic at all, but the individual cards with Inspired are fine and most of them are fun to play in draft. Constellation would probably be oppressively broken if it was in all three sets. Heroic and Bestow are home-runs. I just really like how balanced the full-block draft feels, and how many different decks you can realistically draft. It doesn't feel like there's any completely unbeatable bombs like Pack Rat or super-weak colors like white in M14. And it's just generally packed full of fun cards.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:03
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Entropic posted:v I can definitely agree with all of this, but I got to say, I do think Theros-Born-Journey was the better order as Theros felt like it properly lead into the other sets.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:08
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LaTex Fetish posted:you can usually judge a set well based on how many playables it provides outside of standard. Doesn't Courser of Kruphix see play in modern and Brimaz in Legacy?
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Aug 1, 2014 21:08
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Count Bleck posted:Doesn't Courser of Kruphix see play in modern and Brimaz in Legacy? Brimaz is played a little in both. Its not exactly hitting Snapcaster levels of play, but still. JBT draft was fine, but would have worked so, so much better as TBJ because of the way stuff was set up - the Gods were all multicolored, so it sucked to commit to them early, and Journey was missing a lot of the common bestow creatures you could really built around for stuff like constellation. E: Dude on stream draws a Hornet's Nest after opponent casts a Juggernaut. 
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Aug 1, 2014 21:16
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Zac Hill's head is so drat shiny. Man he must polish it every day.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:35
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What's the schedule like for the pro tour? I'm trying to find when they'll play standard. Wizards website woefully uninformative
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Aug 1, 2014 21:50
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They're on a lunch break so it should be soon-ish. 3 rounds draft and 5 rounds Standard on Friday and Saturday starting at noon Eastern.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:52
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deftest posted:What's the schedule like for the pro tour? I'm trying to find when they'll play standard. Wizards website woefully uninformative According to Riki Hayashi, who may or may not be judging this weekend, it starts at 2:35 PM local time.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:53
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Angry Grimace posted:I was telling people she was a female because that was what I recalled from the panel, but all of the blogs said it was a dude. Then again, all the blogs reported that Rosewater said there would likely be a three-color planeswalker in Khans, despite the fact that he totally did not say that and said "its something we'd like to do again, but I'm not saying soon." Sarkhan Vol is the Jund planeswalker, and is about as 3 color as Ajani at this point, possibly more if you consider he isn't as watered down with his main color? If he gets a card, I would not be surprised if it was 3 color, either jund in defiance of Mardu, or Mardu in homage to his people.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:54
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pretty interested to see how that one deck with 3 (or was it 2?) Scrapyard Mongrels, Aeronaut Tinkerer, Ornithopter and Military Intelligence will do. Ornithopter is a bad card that bad drafters always end up picking up really early and actually play with it for some reason. But the logic here is that it triggers Military Intelligence regardless if it is doing damage, helps out Scrapyard, Tinkerer, and could chump if all else fails. Definitely a fringe card and not something I expected to see at the Pro Tour.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:55
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Gensuki posted:Sarkhan Vol is the Jund planeswalker, and is about as 3 color as Ajani at this point, possibly more if you consider he isn't as watered down with his main color? I guess its possible that Maro was being intentionally misleading, but you can see his answer in the video.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:55
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Aug 1, 2014 21:57
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LaTex Fetish posted:pretty interested to see how that one deck with 3 (or was it 2?) Scrapyard Mongrels, Aeronaut Tinkerer, Ornithopter and Military Intelligence will do. It's a cheap (free mana wise, one card, no color commitment... since it's free) creature with evasion that can block 1/1s if you don't have anything else for it to do. Give it a sword, make it a 5/5, convoke with it, activate metal craft if you want. Ornithopter can DO a lot, so it can find its way into a lot of combo decks.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:58
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Man I hope all Jeskai rares are just various forms of Knowledge Pool, Timesifter, and Eye of the Storm. This is good decision because everybody loves those cards when they are played.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:00
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deftest posted:What's the schedule like for the pro tour? I'm trying to find when they'll play standard. Wizards website woefully uninformative For all Pro Tours it's basically, 3 rounds limited and 5 rounds whatever format for that PT on Days 1 and 2. You need 12 points to advance to Day 2. Then cut to Top 8 for Day 3.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:06
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Gensuki posted:It's a cheap (free mana wise, one card, no color commitment... since it's free) creature with evasion that can block 1/1s if you don't have anything else for it to do. Do you think Ornithopter is better than a Bronze Sable in this situation?
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Aug 1, 2014 22:09
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Tarkir still confirmed for owns. Interesting that "plains" are going to be desert, at least on one of the arts. I wonder if there will also be steppe-ish plains. I know that's what immediately leapt to my mind when we learned we were getting Central/Eastern Asia Plane.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:09
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Gensuki posted:It's a cheap (free mana wise, one card, no color commitment... since it's free) creature with evasion that can block 1/1s if you don't have anything else for it to do. Back in the ancient past of magic, before the 4 card rule, and when decks were 40 cards minimum, it wasn't odd to see people playing a deck that was literally ornithopters, giant growths and brain geysers, with a bunch of land. It's still a strong card, it's seen a lot of play when the right stuff to pair it with has been around, and there's just about enough for it right now.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:09
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LaTex Fetish posted:Do you think Ornithopter is better than a Bronze Sable in this situation? The problem is that you're talking about limited and he's talking about constructed.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:11
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Elyv posted:The problem is that you're talking about limited and he's talking about constructed. Oh.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:16
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Boettcher turns up on stream looking like a dirty slob and the entire chat starts ripping into him. There might almost be hope for us.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:17
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Boettcher turns up on stream looking like a dirty slob and the entire chat starts ripping into him. There might almost be hope for us. and Marshall is so professional in comparison. And, I dare say, a better player, I think.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:20
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Boettcher turns up on stream looking like a dirty slob and the entire chat starts ripping into him. There might almost be hope for us. He's a great player but every time I see him on camera I shake my head. Its one thing to like have a less than stylish haircut and nothing dressy on but he goes out of his way to sit with the worst possible posture and pulls his hood up so you know for sure how much effort he is putting into looking like poo poo.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:21
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JerryLee posted:Tarkir still confirmed for owns. I'd be surprised if every Plains was Abzan-themed. I'm expecting there to be at least one basic land art for every wedge faction, like how in Shards there was a Naya jungle Plains and a Bant idyllic hillside Plains and then Esper had those big sand dunes under their weird starry sky.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:21
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Sorry, I use "sword" to refer to the mirrodin swords.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:23
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mcmagic posted:Courser of Kurphix. Courser isn't a mana dork, though?  It also sees a ton of play in other formats, too and is arguably the best creature in Standard.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:24
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bhsman posted:Courser isn't a mana dork, though? Mana dork being used as "something that ramps you" which it does if we then also define "ramp" as "increasing the odds you make a land drop every turn". Borderlands Ranger is my favorite mana dork.
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Attorney at Funk posted:I'd be surprised if every Plains was Abzan-themed. I'm expecting there to be at least one basic land art for every wedge faction, like how in Shards there was a Naya jungle Plains and a Bant idyllic hillside Plains and then Esper had those big sand dunes under their weird starry sky. I'm too lazy to look this up right now, but I'm pretty sure Shards did a 2/1/1 split where the shard with 2 basics was the one whose base color that was. So there were 2 Bant Plains, 2 Esper Islands, 2 Grixis Swamps, 2 Jund Mountains, and 2 Naya Forests. I'd expect that to be matched in Khans, meaning we'd see 2 Abzan Plains, but also 1 Jeskai Plains and 1 Mardu Plains (and then 2 Jeskai Islands, with 1 Sultai and 1 Temur, and so on)
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Aug 1, 2014 22:26
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I've actually won a surprising number of Standard games because my opponent's Courser eventually allowed me to know every single card in their hand.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:27
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Gensuki posted:Mana dork being used as "something that ramps you" which it does if we then also define "ramp" as "increasing the odds you make a land drop every turn". By that logic, Elvish Abberation and Primeval Titan are 'mana dorks'.
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Gensuki posted:Mana dork being used as "something that ramps you" which it does if we then also define "ramp" as "increasing the odds you make a land drop every turn". That isn't a mana dork, either.  That's more like a pure ramp card than a cheap creature that taps for mana, which is what traditional mana dorks like Llanowar Elves and Birds are.qbert posted:I've actually won a surprising number of Standard games because my opponent's Courser eventually allowed me to know every single card in their hand. In a reactive Bant list, yeah, but I've also won games because Control players saw me draw consecutive Thoughtseizes and decided to just move on to game 3. 
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