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Year 1 undead invasion really blows. They just sit there at the edge of the screen, not walking into my traps, but too strong to mount an assault on with 4 or 5 trained dwarves.
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I've had 50 undeads outside my fort for years and I managed to get a liaison in and all he told me was that my civilization had been conquered. The undeads can fight the goblins who will inevitably come to destroy the last of us.
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Moridin920 posted:I've had 50 undeads outside my fort for years and I managed to get a liaison in and all he told me was that my civilization had been conquered. Did you get migrants? I thought when you had the "Siege" status caravans stopped coming (perhaps unless they were already en route) and possibly migrants as well.
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Zurai posted:They can also climb, so simple 1 height constructed walls won't help either. I do believe that adding a lip to the wall foils climbers, though. By lip, do you mean a floor constructed out over the adjacent space? Does smoothing help too?
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Did you get migrants? I thought when you had the "Siege" status caravans stopped coming (perhaps unless they were already en route) and possibly migrants as well. I thought so too, but I got 1 dwarf caravan (which promptly left, except for the diplomat) and a couple migrant waves. I managed to save a few migrants but the rest were brutally slaughtered. Undeads are STRONG! And these are just regular reanimated corpses, not husks from evil weather.
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Subjunctive posted:By lip, do you mean a floor constructed out over the adjacent space? Does smoothing help too? Yeah, basically a ceilinged tile next to the wall in question: code:But like someone already mentioned, this isn't really needed at the moment since all you have to do right now to foil climbers is smooth the walls so they can't grab on to them.
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Malcolm posted:Dwarf Fortress kickstarter, I can smell it from here. Stretch Goal: I'll use version control
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Tarn Adams (http://themittani.com/features/dwarf-fortress-2014-interview-tarn-adams) posted:...those games don't function as competitors at all, and our true competition is more unrelated games and even moreso unrelated ways of spending money that don't involve or encourage gaming. Don't go on that cruise! Stay home and support DF instead! Unless the cruise is openly inspired by Dwarf Fortress, in which case, you should go on the cruise... but be careful. I would 100% go on a Dwarf Fortress cruise. Sailing to various biomes, sampling the exotic -=*Prepared Dragonfly Brain Salad*=- and being eternally wrecked on mushroom wine. Sounds downright luxurious, save for the whole Boatmurdered angle.
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GENUINE CAT HERDER posted:But like someone already mentioned, this isn't really needed at the moment since all you have to do right now to foil climbers is smooth the walls so they can't grab on to them.
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Bullfrog posted:I would 100% go on a Dwarf Fortress cruise. Sailing to various biomes, sampling the exotic -=*Prepared Dragonfly Brain Salad*=- and being eternally wrecked on mushroom wine. Sounds downright luxurious, save for the whole Boatmurdered angle. The whole cruise goes to hell when one of the passengers loses at shuffle board and starts a tantrum spiral. There will be no survivors.
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Xand_Man posted:The whole cruise goes to hell when one of the passengers loses at shuffle board and starts a tantrum spiral. There will be no survivors.
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From this interview: With DF being a fantasy world generator, will there be less of your creations (beakdogs, plump helmets) as the worlds become more filled out by procedurally created creatures, or will the Bay 12 flavors persist? Adams: I'm not really happy with a few of the made-up above-ground plants we have, and future stuff will probably slant more toward being generated, maybe exclusively. I suspect in the vanilla version that the to-be-added slider(s) which turns off real-world animals and plants in favor of generated alternatives will also control how our existing made-up stuff is used, with the ability to go full-earth, or mostly-earth and stock-made-up (like now), or mostly/all generated. -- I certainly hope the game isn't fully randomly generated creatures. Creatures in games like that get pretty old (see Spore and Starbound to an extent). Sometimes it's good to see plenty of familiar creatures and mixing in some random things in to scratch that fantasy variety itch.
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Met posted:I certainly hope the game isn't fully randomly generated creatures. Creatures in games like that get pretty old (see Spore and Starbound to an extent). Sometimes it's good to see plenty of familiar creatures and mixing in some random things in to scratch that fantasy variety itch. That's because Spore and Starbound aren't doing it Toady-style, he'll probably simulate 2 million years of evolution. 
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Catts posted:The higher "ranked" members of a squad will prioritize the higher quality armor pieces, but unless you don't have your squads assigned to wear armor or specifically forbid them from metal armor should they do that. in an older fort i had a dedicated squad of nude wrestlers where i sent the shittiest dwarves. their barracks was an elevated platform outside the fortress, near the trade depot. they were the Rapid Rasslin' Response Team. edit: the entire squad ended up having their skulls bashed in from other wrestlers throwing tantrums, or going insane atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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The Droid posted:I wonder what will be the "overall" focus of the next development arc. Military stuff? Night creature expansions? Probably stuff related to groups moving around the world map, since he worked so much on getting that to work. Taverns and inns finally, maybe. Which in an ideal world would lead into an economy revival..
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Alright. n00b edit check me here. I've removed Royal Jelly from bees and bumblebees in animals_insects.txt I've added this to reaction_other.txt pre:[REACTION:PRESS_HONEYCOMB] [NAME:press honey from honeycomb] [BUILDING:SCREW_PRESS:CUSTOM_H] [REAGENT:honeycomb:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_HONEYCOMB:NONE:NONE] [HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:HONEYCOMB_PRESS_MAT] [NOT_PRESSED] [REAGENT:liquid container:1:TOOL:NONE:NONE:NONE] [EMPTY] [DOES_NOT_ABSORB] [PRESERVE_REAGENT] [HAS_TOOL_USE:LIQUID_CONTAINER] [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT] [PRODUCT:100:1:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:honeycomb:HONEYCOMB_PRESS_MAT][PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:liquid container] [PRODUCT:100:3:GLOB:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:honeycomb:NONE][PRODUCT_PRESSED] [SKILL:PRESSING] [REACTION:MAKE_WAX_CRAFTS] [NAME:make wax crafts] [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_W] [REAGENT:wax:150:GLOB:NONE:NONE:NONE] [REACTION_CLASS:WAX] [PRODUCT:100:1:CRAFTS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:wax:NONE] [SKILL:WAX_WORKING] [REACTION:MAKE_WAX_CANDLES] [NAME:make wax candles] [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_C] [REAGENT:wax:150:GLOB:NONE:NONE:NONE] [REACTION_CLASS:WAX] [PRODUCT:100:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_CANDLE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:wax:NONE] [SKILL:WAX_WORKING] pre:[ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_CANDLE] [NAME:candles:candles] [VALUE:25] [TILE:'/'] [SIZE:300] [MATERIAL_SIZE:1] [UNIMPROVABLE] E: Start game. "Missing Word definition"
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Kommando posted:I tried to port my 40.03 save to 40.05. Atticmaster.
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0lives posted:Probably stuff related to groups moving around the world map, since he worked so much on getting that to work. Taverns and inns finally, maybe. Which in an ideal world would lead into an economy revival.. Job priorities are apparently in the mix too, woo woo.
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Met posted:I certainly hope the game isn't fully randomly generated creatures. Creatures in games like that get pretty old (see Spore and Starbound to an extent). Sometimes it's good to see plenty of familiar creatures and mixing in some random things in to scratch that fantasy variety itch. Well, the issue with random generation in those games is that while yes, technically every monster is different, they aren't REALLY different. A good random monster generator is one which creates monsters that you actually need to change how you fight in order to defeat. The random monster generation in Starbound, Spore, and other games like them simply makes the same monster over and over again with a different coat of paint plus a couple extra bells and whistles, resulting in the player just treating every enemy identically. What I hope is that Toady understands this before he goes on to create his own random monster generator. VerdantSquire fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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VerdantSquire posted:Well, the issue with random generation in those games is that while yes, technically every monster is different, they aren't REALLY different. A good random monster generator is one which creates monsters that you actually need to change how you fight in order to defeat. The random monster generation in Starbound, Spore, and other games like them simply makes the same monster over and over again with a different coat of paint plus a couple extra bells and whistles, resulting in the player just treating every enemy identically. What I hope is that Toady understands this before he goes on to create his own random monster generator. If the player's don't like it I'm sure the functionality to use pre-generated things will still exist. I can't imagine him getting rid of goblins and elves. So you can likely just make the RNG force something (say you want an ice planet, everything survives in the cold) well you then just make it so everything explodes at normal temps that is randomly generated and you only have "stock" things, in your custom raws. Really it is Dwarf Fortress the only thing a random creator generator is going to do worst case is waste development time, and Toady is going to do what Toady is going to do.
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Is there any utility that will let me disable the warm/wet stone digging cancellations? I'm sort of amazed thats not in the orders menu.
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No, but you can disable the pausing and recentering at least. Take the D and the P out of the right places in \init\announcements.txt.
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Zereth posted:Or make them out of blocks. I'm not sure if it works against invaders, but I had dwarfs climb over block walls.
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I really like this fort I have going, but it's almost two years in and I have had zero migration waves. At one point, I got sieged by evil dwarfs who eventually left when I turtled. I still see dwarf caravans every year and an elf caravan recently showed up. When I look on the civ screen I see a bunch of barons/counts/royalty, and the liason always has news from the other mountain-homes, so what gives?
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Check your population cap setting.
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babies havin rabies posted:I really like this fort I have going, but it's almost two years in and I have had zero migration waves. At one point, I got sieged by evil dwarfs who eventually left when I turtled. I still see dwarf caravans every year and an elf caravan recently showed up. When I look on the civ screen I see a bunch of barons/counts/royalty, and the liason always has news from the other mountain-homes, so what gives? A couple pages back people were saying that .05 added an "absolute pop cap" setting that is different from the normal pop cap. If you copypasted your init from a previous version it won't be in there and it defaults to 0. Redownload and get the clean init.
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Samolety posted:A couple pages back people were saying that .05 added an "absolute pop cap" setting that is different from the normal pop cap. If you copypasted your init from a previous version it won't be in there and it defaults to 0. Redownload and get the clean init. Thanks. I'm using a fresh download of Linux LNP 40.05, but I don't see the [STRICT_POPULATION_CAP:n] in d_init (must have been overlooked?). I typically don't mess with the inits directly, so is just adding this line and loading up DF enough to make it effective in my fort? babies havin rabies fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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Yeah, it is. Should look like this:quote:You can set the maximum population of your fortress here. Keep in mind that your population must be at least 80 to get a king and 100 to obtain the current game features. The strict cap also stops fort births. Both caps can be violated by a few special cases, like the arrival of the monarch if you qualify.
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babies havin rabies posted:Thanks. I'm using a fresh download of Linux LNP 40.05, but I don't see the [STRICT_POPULATION_CAP:n] in d_init (must have been overlooked?). I typically don't mess with the inits directly, so is just adding this line and loading up DF enough to make it effective in my fort? Yep! I copied my old inits and experienced the same thing: no migrants or dwarf babbys, normal births for animals. Missing that line is the same for having it set to zero.
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i once kicked a kobold just to watch him flyToady One posted:Some more bugs eaten by toad.
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The human caravan just got so scared that their wagons exploded.  Or their wagons exploded which caused everyone to get scared?I built an L-shaped fence around the outdoor refuse pile so wagons couldn't pass to close, but one of the guys with just a donkey decided to take a shortcut through the 1-tile wide pedestrian pass through. About the time he gets eye level with the edge of the refuse heap the entire caravan and all my civilians in the area start throwing blue !!!!s. WTF? It's not that scary. Okay, over a ways off my soldiers have just engaged a minotaur, but I don't think the merchants can even see them. What is so . . . the wagons are gone. Just gone. Stacks of wagon wood surrounded by confused and terrified merchants. What? Why? How?
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Oh! My save game won't work because I removed royal jelly and I had some jugs full of it in a stockpile. Duh.
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Angela Christine posted:The human caravan just got so scared that their wagons exploded. My guess: there were bones or other body bits in the refuse pile, the merchants became horribly afraid of them, the draft animals flipped out and dragged the wagons somewhere impassable, and the wagons exploded.
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The Moon Monster posted:Is there any utility that will let me disable the warm/wet stone digging cancellations? I'm sort of amazed thats not in the orders menu. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=21892.0 works with 2012 but not 2014 I want to be able to put goblin heads on pikes and have goblins get scared away. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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