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Buzkashi posted:Christ, what an rear end in a top hat "I think the main problem with our society is that male sexuality is demonized but female sexuality is praised." Hmmm...yes...Yes. I see his point. All of the legislation conservatives try and often push through that limits a woman's right to have control over her body obviously proves his point. If we weren't being praised for being great big slutty sluts, why would we even be concerned with having control over our reproductive organs?
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Buzkashi posted:Christ, what an rear end in a top hat If women want to dress fashionably I'm going to be a complete loving creep, they can't have it both ways!
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Aug 2, 2014 05:26
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:If women want to dress fashionably I'm going to be a complete loving creep, they can't have it both ways! Yes but that's a conscious choice they made and clearly if they didn't want attention they'd go everywhere in burlap sacks DUH
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Aug 2, 2014 05:29
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Buzkashi posted:Yes but that's a conscious choice they made and clearly if they didn't want attention they'd go everywhere in burlap sacks DUH Burlap sacks show off too much leg, clearly they need to disguise themselves as men if they want to be treated as human beings.
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Aug 2, 2014 05:34
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I was going to post that if no one else did by the time I caught up. I read a few more articles on that site and they're all unfunny click-bait like "Jay-Z and Beyonce divorce," "LeBron says he's earned the right to wear 23," and the one that probably gives them the most traffic: "boy suspended for reading the bible at recess." And the fire game? When I was a teenager, I didn't get a cellphone until I turned 18, and we had the internet, but thank god YouTube didn't exist, or I'd be the dumb kid in lots of headlines. On the 4th of July we'd usually go to my friend Vincent's farm to blow stuff up, and I still remember Tim and I dumping lighter fluid on our hands and lighting it. It burns the fluid and it looks like your hand is on fire. We both agreed, as we stood next to each other with our hands under the faucet, that it was totally worth it.
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Aug 2, 2014 05:55
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"Women objectify themselves" is some real philosophical poo poo. Can one really objectify oneself? Is a short skirt an inherently sexy object? If a woman falls in the forest, and no one's around to see her boobs, is she still a slut?
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Aug 2, 2014 06:00
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Buzkashi posted:Christ, what an rear end in a top hat So he either wants women to make themselves look as unattractive as possible and therefore not be sexually harassed OR Women are allowed to look attractive, but only if they agree to have sex with any male who gives them attention, especially him
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dijon du jour posted:"Women objectify themselves" is some real philosophical poo poo. Can one really objectify oneself? Is a short skirt an inherently sexy object? If a woman falls in the forest, and no one's around to see her boobs, is she still a slut? If she has boobs and isn't currently having sex with him, than she's a slut, regardless of what she is wearing.
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Aug 2, 2014 06:20
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SybilVimes posted:While I agree that Sue Shee's comment is inappropriate on such a young child's comment section, isn't Eda Torial a little young to have a facebook page - you have to be 13 by the rules. Eda Torial is 32 and took up occasional painting as a hobby a couple of years ago. Sorry it's not the Thomas Kinkade quality you crave.
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Aug 2, 2014 06:22
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Bored posted:"I think the main problem with our society is that male sexuality is demonized but female sexuality is praised." Not to mention that men who have tons of sex with many different women are 'players' and considered successful in life, whereas if it's reversed you're just a dirty skanky whore.
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Aug 2, 2014 07:58
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Picnic Princess posted:Not to mention that men who have tons of sex with many different women are 'players' and considered successful in life, whereas if it's reversed you're just a dirty skanky whore. But but but something about locks and keys and SLUTS
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Aug 2, 2014 08:14
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Burlap sacks show off too much leg, clearly they need to disguise themselves as men if they want to be treated as human beings. That wouldn't work either; a chick wearing a suit is basically the sexiest thing.
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Aug 2, 2014 08:33
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Buzkashi posted:Christ, what an rear end in a top hat As a woman who just likes and enjoys makeup as a fashion statement and creative outlet, I loving hate people who have this idea that women only wear it to get sexual attention from men. That something as innocuous as red lipstick or eyeliner is for THEIR benefit. Entitled and self-obsessed shitbags.
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Aug 2, 2014 08:56
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moerketid posted:As a woman who just likes and enjoys makeup as a fashion statement and creative outlet, I loving hate people who have this idea that women only wear it to get sexual attention from men. That something as innocuous as red lipstick or eyeliner is for THEIR benefit. Entitled and self-obsessed shitbags. Same with wearing any clothes that are even the slight bit flattering. If I didn't want to be ogled by strangers, I'd dress in baggy stained sweats 24/7, right? I'm posting this picture because I want to make a point. I was wearing this in a residential neighbourhood and got called a slut by a random stranger sitting on her porch. Why? Too much shoulder, clearly desperate for male attention. Doesn't matter that the dress dropped to my ankles, or that it was 30C and having less cloth on my shoulders was more comfortable in the heat, or that I've been with only one guy, and for 15 years at that. Wear a halter-style top, you're a desperate attention whore.  Ah yes, and I've been called out for wearing a bra that's a non-neutral color before too. If I'm wearing a bra that's a bright or obvious colour (purple, pink, black) and people can see the strap because I'm in a tanktop or whatever, I'm clearly only doing it to tantalize them into wishing to see me in my underwear.
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Aug 2, 2014 10:26
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No-one gives a poo poo about your story, or you. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 2, 2014 10:44
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Explain How! posted:No-one gives a poo poo about your story, or you. Cool.
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Explain How! posted:No-one gives a poo poo about your story, or you. OK
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Explain How! posted:No-one gives a poo poo about your story, or you. What's the point of this post aside from stirring up drama? Your posts are horrid, please improve them.
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Aug 2, 2014 10:59
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Explain How! posted:No-one gives a poo poo about your story, or you. This is the truth
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Aug 2, 2014 11:34
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Let me tell you about how I look and how interesting of a person I am.
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Aug 2, 2014 11:35
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I'm a guy and I got wolf whistled once by girls but tbh I think they were just making fun of me  .
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Aug 2, 2014 11:54
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Met posted:What's the point of this post aside from stirring up drama? Your posts are horrid, please improve them. The point of that post is to keep these forums entertaining. Yours however...
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Aurora-Capitah posted:The point of that post is to keep these forums entertaining. Yours however... :thejoke:
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Aug 2, 2014 12:05
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I thought this was idiots on social media not idiots on something awful shut the gently caress up
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He is still going, basically using every "person who has no idea how to argue" trick in the book
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Haha that last post is killing me. "Stay at home dads exist but are miniscule", well rather than blame society's view of stay at home dads being un-masculine and meaning they failed as a man, let's blame women who have it soooo easy I mean it's not like it's a real job.
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moerketid posted:As a woman who just likes and enjoys makeup as a fashion statement and creative outlet, I loving hate people who have this idea that women only wear it to get sexual attention from men. That something as innocuous as red lipstick or eyeliner is for THEIR benefit. Entitled and self-obsessed shitbags. If women only wear makeup to attract men, does that mean that my friend who is a make up artist is secretly just really into the idea of getting other women laid? Is she really just some weird sexpervert?
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RagnarokAngel posted:Haha that last post is killing me. "Stay at home dads exist but are miniscule", well rather than blame society's view of stay at home dads being un-masculine and meaning they failed as a man, let's blame women who have it soooo easy I mean it's not like it's a real job. Honestly if given the option to stay at home during the formative years of your own children you ought to be pretty drat stoked and I'd hold it against women if they didn't take advantage of that opportunity. Men are idiots for not moving with the times and pushing for reform on this.
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The rebuttal 1. Your posts drip with male privilege and you seem perfectly comfortable speaking for women so I didn't thnk it unreasonable to take your opinions to their logical conclusion. If I don't get to say "You feel like women owe you something" then you don't get to say "Women don't want this because they enjoy using their sexuality to manipulate men", because then both of us are making assumptions about the intentions of people we don't know. Deal? 2. Go outside, seriously. Look at literally any form of marketing and see that society uses an unrealistic standard of beauty in commercialism and storytelling - buying whatever product will impress women, the hero in the story being handed a one-dimensional female love interest basically as his reward for defeating the villain, etc. From all sides, women are assaulted with the message that if they're not sexually available for the whims and entertainment of men, they're useless. If a woman chooses not to play along with the social norms established by patriarchal society, say, if she wears no makeup, loose fitting clothing, and a frown ("veiling her sexuality" as you say, which is garbage), she's still pressured by society, complete strangers saying things like "You'd be prettier if you smiled. Why don't you put on a little eyeliner? Why would you leave the house wearing that old thing?" - all pointing to the expectation that the onus is on women to appeal to a world full of men they have no intention of interacting with. 3. You keep assigning this sexual intention to women's choices when there's literally no *inherent* sexuality about anything involved. What you might perceive as a dress designed to draw your attention is actually just a piece of cloth with no sleeves because it's summer and it's hot out. Maybe a woman feels artistic and wants to use her face as a canvas, exploring the interaction of color and shadow around her eyes without any intention of ensnaring a man with her wiles. The point is that you have no idea what she's trying to accomplish so you assume the answer that's most beneficial to you: that it's directly for the benefit of men. 4. Literally everything you've been saying answers your own question here. The fact that we're even talking about this answers your own question. This is a uniquely female problem at hand - the reason the video was even made in the first place is because there's an inordinate level of uninvited attention and criticism placed on how women look in public. If you wore shorts and a tank top outside and had to deal with a dozen guys hassling you as you walked from one place to another, that would seem insane, right? So why do we handwave away the issue when a woman stands up for herself and says that this behavior isn't okay? Why are her short sleeves more inherently sexual than yours? 5. You misread what I said so I'll rephrase for your benefit. Almost universally in human culture, the male element is seen as "standard" while the female element is labeled as "other" - man is the default and woman is some substandard imitation instead of being equal as a human being, therefore she has to work twice as hard to receive the same respect that a man would receive without question. 6. You are so close to seeing reason that it's heartbreaking. You can see how the patriarchal society oppresses men, too! Men who want to stay at home and take care of their kids are seen as failed and un-masculine. The assumption is that they can't hack it in the real world and have to hide out at home doing what's stereotypically a woman's work (work which should inherently be easier because society thinks women are inferior, and if you've ever taken care of children you know it is in no way easy work). Plus it's perceived as extra-emasculating because it means the man has to rely on his partner for financial security. Maybe part of the reason that men don't seem to have the option to "be a father" the same way that women have the option to "be a mother" (and they both absolutely do have those options) is because women are treated so unfairly in the professional world. If there were more opportunities and equality for women in the workplace, men could ignore whatever social hangups people place on being a stay-at-home dad and feel more comfortable making that choice for themselves. Buzkashi has a new favorite as of 15:21 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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What does the "be sexy" option even mean? Is he mad he can't be prostitute and think women just nonchalantly have sex for money all the time?
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I love how one of the questions is "Who says society forces women to be sexual?!" and the very next question assumes that basic elements of women's fashion are inherently sexual.
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Amused to Death posted:What does the "be sexy" option even mean? Is he mad he can't be prostitute and think women just nonchalantly have sex for money all the time? If I was to wager a guess, I'd think it means "sexy women get free stuff from the men they manipulate!"  You know, that old story about men being "forced" to pay for dinner and drinks, that sort of thing. MRAs are really hung up on that.
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Amused to Death posted:What does the "be sexy" option even mean? Is he mad he can't be prostitute and think women just nonchalantly have sex for money all the time? Yeah I think he feels "trophy wife" is a legitimate career goal available to all women.
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It's almost like women aren't people with complex life paths, goals, thoughts, personalities and choices and are instead a computer RPG character with 3 skill trees to pick from. That Bitch In The Office, Mommy, and That Whore Who Won't Even Spare Me A Second Glance What's Up With That.
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Aug 2, 2014 16:16
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Found this on LinkedIn Yes, she said her own name in the comment.
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nippythefish posted:Found this on LinkedIn These people are all over LinkedIn, and if you ever handle an outward-facing inbox, you get a shitton of resumes along these lines.
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Buzkashi posted:He is still going, basically using every "person who has no idea how to argue" trick in the book Sorry you're friends with Phyllis Schlafly
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