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Commander Keenan posted:New arena FPS called Toxikk is coming out. The trailer is below. Hoping that this, combined with UT2015 and CliffyB's new game, revives the arena FPS. Instead of being free, we are just going to charge a box price and then still have microtransactions. Enjoy this NOT FREE TO PLAY game.
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I will never understand why Free to Play is something bad to "hardcore gamers." TF2 went F2P and it's still great, Quake Live is free and great, but so many people still think free games are korean grind fests or something.
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Aug 2, 2014 02:19
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Elliotw2 posted:I will never understand why Free to Play is something bad to "hardcore gamers." TF2 went F2P and it's still great, Quake Live is free and great, but so many people still think free games are korean grind fests or something. Because most "free to play" games are way more similar to korean grind fests than to TF2 or Quake Live.
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Aug 2, 2014 02:23
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Wadjamaloo posted:NOT FREE TO PLAY Have they said that this will be the case? You can preorder the game on their website for 15$ which seems like reasonable pricing to me and I haven't seen anything about microtransactions.
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Aug 2, 2014 02:52
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When someone says something is free, it implies that they are going to gently caress you over in some way unless you pay them money. It's all a matter of how big of an inconvenience that is for you. Some games are monetized in a way that doesn't affect me at all so those are the games that I like. Others?... Well let's just say that if you ever tried to play games in your iPhone you know exactly what the gently caress to expect when a game claims to be free. Pay mobile titles are already working their way into Steam. TF2 and Quake Live are the exceptions that prove the rule. SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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Aug 2, 2014 02:59
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Prenton posted:That sounds like it's nicked from the godawful Smithsonian level in Duke It Out In DC. Oh my god, I remember spending what felt like forever going through that map. So good.
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Aug 2, 2014 03:04
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Kamrat posted:Have they said that this will be the case? You can preorder the game on their website for 15$ which seems like reasonable pricing to me and I haven't seen anything about microtransactions. You have to pay extra money just to have a clan.
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Aug 2, 2014 03:04
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Wadjamaloo posted:All of the pre order bonuses real of them adding a cash shop. It looks like they are planning a bait and switch. Seems like I didn't look hard enough, blaming this on it being late over here. Charging money for having a clan seems weird, but the skins wouldn't bother me that much if they use a similar system to the one CS:GO uses where you can unlock skins for free during play.
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Aug 2, 2014 03:12
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Wadjamaloo posted:All of the pre order bonuses real of them adding a cash shop. It looks like they are planning a bait and switch. Oh no some camo skins!
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Aug 2, 2014 03:15
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Zaphod42 posted:Oh yeah? Well I think I heard they had some of the quake 2 optimizations included too? Or maybe they ended up doing those same improvements to the Quake 1 engine independently of Id.
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Aug 2, 2014 04:12
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Its been awhile since I talked serious goldsrc.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Oh no some camo skins! The whole draw of being "not free to play" is the idea that buying the game gets you the game, the whole game, the entire game. Their current model is not that.
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Aug 2, 2014 04:55
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DLC is awesome, because it gives developers an opportunity to keep making money off of people who cannot resist giving them more money. But then again Bloodmobile posted:That looks more like Tribes without jetpacks than an actual arena fps.
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Aug 2, 2014 07:09
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A shooter named Lovely Planet came out on Steam a couple of days ago, plays in a way that might appeal to people who read this thread. Check out its thread if you're interested, or just look at the cool gif in the op. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3654833
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Aug 2, 2014 07:21
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Wadjamaloo posted:Its mostly the selling clans that is scummy as of now, but the entire tier system just reaks of plans to add a cash shop. If a cash shop is not planned already, it will be once the playerbase bitches they can't get exclusive pre-order skins everyone else has. While I agree with you, it is not uncommon for any ol' random game to ship with pre-order skins for stuff. I wouldn't pull out my pitchfork just yet.
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Aug 2, 2014 09:55
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Preorder bonuses tend to become DLC down the line anyway, so if you want those skins really bad just wait until they release that.
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Aug 2, 2014 11:18
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:TF2 and Quake Live are the exceptions that prove the rule. The inferior version of Quake 3 that gives you like 2 playable maps and 18 garbage ones a month unless you pay 40$/year is a great example of a f2p game done right.
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Aug 2, 2014 12:58
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:While I agree with you, it is not uncommon for any ol' random game to ship with pre-order skins for stuff. I wouldn't pull out my pitchfork just yet. I stand by the fact that selling clans is incredibly scummy, and their current pay model definitely goes against the spirit of what the emblazoned "NO FREE TO PLAY" is trying to provoke. Free to play is not always bad, ie Dota and tf2, but it has a nasty reputation of really damaging games that could have been good.
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Aug 2, 2014 13:47
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Toxikk's hatred for F2P becomes extra funny when you read this and realise that if the times had allowed him, Carmack would have made Quake F2P in 1996.
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Aug 2, 2014 14:27
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Sobatchja Morda posted:Toxikk's hatred for F2P becomes extra funny when you read this and realise that if the times had allowed him, Carmack would have made Quake F2P in 1996. Could do with the fact that Quake heralded the end of the shareware era. The game was too large to distribute over the Internet, so instead id sold the CDs in stores for $10, with the full game locked away, the CD key available from id for $45. Rampant piracy ensued. Perhaps id was still feeling the burn from that, and that's partially why QuakeWorld wasn't freemium. Edit: EDuke32's Facebook page posted this, with the caption "Not much longer now:"  Some fun quotes from the post:
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The thing about the one that's out now is that it's "free", but episodes 2 and 3 (4 is not available) were in-app purchases. I'm not sure who would want to buy them after seeing how bad the game was. Ours will be a single purchase of the full version as it is on Steam."
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Segmentation Fault posted:Could do with the fact that Quake heralded the end of the shareware era. The game was too large to distribute over the Internet, so instead id sold the CDs in stores for $10, with the full game locked away, the CD key available from id for $45. Rampant piracy ensued. It was even better than that, I remember the CD had the full versions of every single id game locked up and of course there was a crack released shortly.
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Aug 2, 2014 18:47
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qcrack.exe made a lot of teenagers very happy
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Aug 2, 2014 18:53
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Anyone familiar with Duke Nukem 3D con editing? How would I go about decreasing the amount of damage enemies do because JESUS CHRIST Duke is like paper mache in this game.
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Aug 2, 2014 21:37
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Segmentation Fault posted:[*]"Modding will be supported and our license includes several items, including the ones you mentioned [Duke it Out in DC/Duke Caribbean/Nuclear Winter] and a few others. An iOS port is technically possible, but I think Apple's weird app store rules actually prevent any version of the game from being there (even the existing one, technically) because CON scripts are interpreted text and the game compiles and executes them." I wonder if Apple actually realizes how far that rule goes? Reading it strictly, Spacechem can't get an iOS port, Minecraft PE can never have redstone, etc etc etc
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Segmentation Fault posted:Could do with the fact that Quake heralded the end of the shareware era. The game was too large to distribute over the Internet, so instead id sold the CDs in stores for $10, with the full game locked away, the CD key available from id for $45. Rampant piracy ensued. gently caress yes. Touchscreen controls are gonna suck no matter what, but I would suffer through them to play Duke 3D on my tablet 
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Aug 2, 2014 23:23
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I'll finally be able to play Duke Nukem 3D while taking a poo poo, the way
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Aug 2, 2014 23:25
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Keiya posted:I wonder if Apple actually realizes how far that rule goes? Reading it strictly, Spacechem can't get an iOS port, Minecraft PE can never have redstone, etc etc etc They are aware exactly how far that goes.
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Keiya posted:I wonder if Apple actually realizes how far that rule goes? Reading it strictly, Spacechem can't get an iOS port, Minecraft PE can never have redstone, etc etc etc There's a straight up Commodore BASIC interpreter you can get with its own graphics drawing script. I think Duke3D will be OK.
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Sobatchja Morda posted:Also, I guess they were trying to go for some sort of warm nostalgia in that trailer, but they kind of come across as annoyingly smug. I wonder if these people thought most of the latter half of DooM 2 was well-designed and enjoy scouring the same loving textures for keyhunts, too. UT3's campaign wasn't awful, it was just pretty generic. The Voice Acting was solid and storyline was pretty decent, it's just that it would have fit in a more SP-oriented game than loving UT3 of all things. I'd have paid my arms to have a better, risk-oriented team management UT2004-style campaign.
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Yeah, we're not going to have stuff like regenerating health, man, because that's for scrubs. No, we couldn't even make it optional if we wanted to. You know what we do have? Memorable weapons. Can't you already see how memorable they are? And we definitely won't do free to play, because that's new poo poo that nobody likes, right? Could you imagine if classic games like Quake or Team Fortress were ftp? No, Quake Live and Team Fortress 2, go away!
JackMackerel posted:I wonder if these people thought most of the latter half of DooM 2 was well-designed and enjoy scouring the same loving textures for keyhunts, too. They probably like Brutal Doom too.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Anyone familiar with Duke Nukem 3D con editing? How would I go about decreasing the amount of damage enemies do because JESUS CHRIST Duke is like paper mache in this game.
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Jblade posted:Open up USER.CON and take a look at the values there (use any text editor) You're gonna want to reduce enemy health rather than nerf damage values because both them and Duke do the same damage. I don't really agree with Duke being weak though, how are you playing the game? Treat it like a mix of Doom and Half-life, because Duke can move fast but you will need to tank some shots which is where finding secrets come into the game. Well DN3D has a lot more hitscan attacks from enemies, and on Let's Rock we're looking at lizard captains (chaingun arm dudes) taking away 15 - 20 health very, very quickly. I still love it though. Godamn, that 2001 trailer for DNF looked like the greatest game ever made.
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Doom 3 turns ten years old today. Sweet jesus, has it really been that long? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxx5gqLZ2hY Or if you want a twist to your nostalgia, here's the 2002 E3 demo played through "as intended". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzJ0wFj-ag
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The Kins posted:Doom 3 turns ten years old today. Sweet jesus, has it really been that long? gently caress, I feel old. I never really finished Doom 3, might be time.
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Kamrat posted:gently caress, I feel old. Nah. At least Resurrection of Evil has a fun gimmick or two. The base game becomes pointless half-way through.
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Aug 3, 2014 18:03
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Man, that can't be Doom 3, I can actually see what the dude's doing and shooting at.
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So here's a kind of dumb question! I like how the PS1 version of Quake 2 looks because it's sharper and has more colors. The PC version is too brown and orange and blurry. Is there a mod or source port that can make it look like the PS1 version? I could just play that one but the controls make it impossible.
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You can use knightmare quake 2, which lets you crank the graphics settings to make it less blurry, or you can emulate the PS1 version of Quake 2 on a PS3 or PC and bind the aim up/down and strafe left/right keys to the right joystick. Nothing you can do about the orange though.
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Aug 3, 2014 18:16
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Playing Doom 3 at 640x480 on a CRT with my regular PCI Geforce 5200 
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Elliotw2 posted:You can use knightmare quake 2, which lets you crank the graphics settings to make it less blurry, or you can emulate the PS1 version of Quake 2 on a PS3 or PC and bind the aim up/down and strafe left/right keys to the right joystick. Nothing you can do about the orange though. Somewhere Gunther Hermann is crying.
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Overbite posted:So here's a kind of dumb question! I'm not sure if you've actually played them side by side but the PC version still looks better.
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