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The thought that Top Gear doesnt do power laps for cars "tuned" for it's track is rubbish. McLaren did it, it's on the board. ALL car companies send out "hot" cars to journos and all of them are tailored for the conditions they let journos out in. If you want proof of the tuning for power laps, look at the support staff most of the cars that get out there come with. They don't just tow the car out there and throw the keys at The Stig - it's transported with a team of techs ready to work and tune. And as for frowned on - if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell ya.
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Cat Terrist posted:The thought that Top Gear doesnt do power laps for cars "tuned" for it's track is rubbish. McLaren did it, it's on the board. ALL car companies send out "hot" cars to journos and all of them are tailored for the conditions they let journos out in.
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Cat Terrist posted:The thought that Top Gear doesnt do power laps for cars "tuned" for it's track is rubbish. McLaren did it, it's on the board. ALL car companies send out "hot" cars to journos and all of them are tailored for the conditions they let journos out in. The article I linked to mentioned putting stickier tires on their cars, of course car companies do their best to make sure they have every advantage possible, but the impression I got when trying to look up something only tangentially related is that Ferrari are over the top about it. I wouldn't be surprised if the LaFerrari that Top Gear get is from Chris Evans* and not the factory. *I only name him because his LaFerrari has already been to the test track, could be anyone of course.
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InitialDave posted:I think maybe the difference is that I get the distinct impression that Ferrari always want the car specifically set up for the given track and type of testing being done, and are utter dicks about it. I'd be very surprised if it was more than anyone else. Car companies by the whole are dicks when it comes to the press and any hint of a actual fair review - the more expensive and exotic, the more dickish the company is. You basically bend over to them or you don't get access to cars, you don't say nasty things or they pull advertising to your publication. Much of what is said about traditional publications - and now increasingly Internet publications - being balls deep with car companies is 100% true because if you don't have access to cars or you don't get advertising? You starve. Even TG with it's media muscle isn't immune. You want to be at the media junkets and get "EXCLUSIVE SCOOPS!!!!"? You want industry access? Well I hope you feel okay in typing utter hyperbolic dribble about Deathtrap XYZ and saying it's sunvisors ar ethe best in class, while privately regretting ever getting behind the wheel of this utter vehicle turd. When there is a car where there is no skin in the game, watch how the truth really comes out. Watch how God's Own Conveyance suddenly becomes How To Build A Shitbox 101. Always has been this way, always will be. CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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When Chris Harris made some bad comments towards Ferrari he got essentially blackballed from Ferrari press cars and could only find privately owned cars to do reviews in.
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Powershift posted:Netflix has most of them. In canada at least. Not anymore - it's only season 15 - 19 now. The early seasons disappeared a few months ago (for me anyway?).
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G-Mach posted:When Chris Harris made some bad comments towards Ferrari he got essentially blackballed from Ferrari press cars and could only find privately owned cars to do reviews in. That's not actually unusual. A couple of my then journalists friends (I was having delusions of being a motoring writer in the late 80's) have been blackballed by Mercedes and Toyota. I still know a couple of them and they aren't welcome at a couple of manufacturers. Mercedes were absolutely legendary for it, reserving press cars for a small section of writers who they favoured and no one else. Say a bad word, you were done. Lets just say any hope of a motoring writer career went out the window when I described some Mitsubishi as being pieced together with leftovers of an automotive abortion bucket.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:59
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James may is doing a car thing that's not top gear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVV_1fMRJiE
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Powershift posted:James may is doing a car thing that's not top gear. Britain loves them a mini-series, looks like this is three hour-long episodes. Should be good. Edit: Episode #1.1 (10 Aug. 2014) Episode #1.2 (17 Aug. 2014) Episode #1.3 (24 Aug. 2014) pik_d fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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G-Mach posted:When Chris Harris made some bad comments towards Ferrari he got essentially blackballed from Ferrari press cars and could only find privately owned cars to do reviews in. I thought he was banned from the Ferrari test track for reasons unknown. Powershift posted:James may is doing a car thing that's not top gear. Woohoo!
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drat. As awesome as that looks to be I was really hoping for more Man Lab.
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Cat Terrist posted:I'd be very surprised if it was more than anyone else. Car companies by the whole are dicks when it comes to the press and any hint of a actual fair review - the more expensive and exotic, the more dickish the company is. You basically bend over to them or you don't get access to cars, you don't say nasty things or they pull advertising to your publication. Much of what is said about traditional publications - and now increasingly Internet publications - being balls deep with car companies is 100% true because if you don't have access to cars or you don't get advertising? You starve. Even TG with it's media muscle isn't immune. I read an editorial in TG Magazine where they said that TG was unique in that is was immune to the pressure from the car companies and that it was pretty awesome to be in that position. Because of The Unique Way The BBC is Funded (tm), they get zero money from the car companies (in fact, they are prohibited from doing so) and so the PR companies have no pressure to apply. As for withholding access, they seem to have taken the attitude that the car companies need them more than they need the car companies. Certainly, when TG gave the famously scathing review of the Vauxhall Vectra and Vauxhall shut off PR, TG' response was 'meh' - they had plenty of other material to fill their viewing schedule. Now they are so big, this is defintely true and it is fun to watch the car companies flail. Withdraw the press car on the day of filming an overseas road test? gently caress you, Chrysler, we'll buy one for cash from your dealer and use that. Pull the press car the day before a road test? gently caress you Bentley, we'll take a used Yugo and call it a Mulsanne and slag it off throughout the test. Works both ways too: Hey Noble, remember that we've always said your cars were just 'okay', but you should buy a Porche instead? Can we borrow one for a long trip and if it breaks, we'll show the presenter stranded by the side of the road, show the car on a recovery lorry and show the part that failed catestrophically. Yes? Okay, enjoy being compared favourably to a Lamborghini Aventador and a McLaren MP4-12C Bristol Motors, still think we are dicks and refuse to talk to us? Yeah, anyone able to name one of their cars?
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I am, but that's only because I'm a loving nerd.Cat Terrist posted:Lets just say any hope of a motoring writer career went out the window when I described some Mitsubishi as being pieced together with leftovers of an automotive abortion bucket. To be fair, that might have had more to do with the quality of your metaphors than your unwillingness to fluff an advertiser's car. 
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Aug 4, 2014 12:33
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Did anyone watch James May's Cars of the People?
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Somewhat expected, but it's more of a history show than a car show, focusing on sociological stuff that centered around certain cars rather than the cars themselves.
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Just finished the first episode; kind of interesting.
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Yeah I just finished the first episode and I quite like the show. James May can talk about anything but about the social and economic reasons for automobiles existing is right up my alley.
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What's it called? Cars of the People? I'll have to look into it tonight.
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Daric posted:What's it called? Cars of the People? I'll have to look into it tonight. "James May's Cars of the People" is the full title and there is only 1 episode out right now, the pilot.
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pik_d posted:Did anyone watch James May's Cars of the People? It was pretty interesting. I liked the use of Spinal Tap's "(Listen to the) Flower People".
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I watched it today and really enjoyed it. It's very James May.
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Loved the episode, glad May is doing it instead of Clarkson as I don't think we'd have gotten the segments about Italy or Russia, just an extra 40 minutes of nazi jokes.Mister Kingdom posted:I liked the use of Spinal Tap's "(Listen to the) Flower People". I liked the use of Hell March from C&C Red Alert
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I really like him as both a bloke and a presenter, but I can't help getting the feeling that his show is basically a series of wikipedia articles with some good presentation.
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spog posted:I really like him as both a bloke and a presenter, but I can't help getting the feeling that his show is basically a series of wikipedia articles with some good presentation. One of his other shows "Things You Need To Know" is pretty much James May reading Wikipedia articles over infographics with the occasional literal talking head as they just show their heads in on-screen pop-ups. Still, they're not nearly as bad as any Richard Hammond show. Richard Hammond, who put his name on "Should I Worry About... Sausages?"
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RillAkBea posted:Richard Hammond, who put his name on "Should I Worry About... Sausages?" Sky News posted:Sausage Linked To Denmark Listeria Deaths
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But.. but.. Hammond told us they were safe.  It was just a general interest show that spent the entire program indulging first world problems then adding at the end that you probably needn't worry after all. The chances are if they had taken the time to make an episode about it, you needn't worry about it. Except sausages, apparently.
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Residency Evil posted:So by summer Top Gear UK really means we'll see the special a week into fall right? I mean I guess September will still count as summer for a bit. edit: I should stop being ungrateful for Top Gear because I will be super sad when it ends some day. Residency Evil fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Aug 16, 2014 |
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Okay, any show which has a Renault 4L get shot by an RPG is fine by me.
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Yeah last night's episode was great.
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Watching James May quote John McClane, then light up a French hatchback with a machine gun to the strains of Ode To Joy, is not a bad way to relax after work.
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BBC says Clarkson is not "untouchable" Normally, I'd say something like this would be a publicity stunt, but neither Top Gear nor Clarkson need publicity.
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Mister Kingdom posted:BBC says Clarkson is not "untouchable"
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Powershift posted:The suggestion that the laferrari-p1-918 comparo won't happen because ferrari doesn't lend top gear cars. I don't think it's just Ferrari; I can't imagine any of the three would really be up for a triple test and that's why none of the car mags have done one (closest so far is Evo where Dickie Meaden drove the P1 and 918 on the same day), so it's not just a Top Gear thing.
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Mister Kingdom posted:BBC says Clarkson is not "untouchable" I agree to disagree. "Oh, look, we're poo poo stirring! Teehee, teehee!"
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Powershift posted:The suggestion that the laferrari-p1-918 comparo won't happen because ferrari doesn't lend top gear cars. I would agree. Didn't they need to borrow an Enzo because Ferrari wouldn't lend it to them? Also the Ferrari FXX timed lap was driven by Schumacher and Top Gear took the time down when they realized Ferrari had slipped racing slick tires on. I assume Mclaren and Porsche wouldn't appreciate the direct comparison either. All three of them have come up with extremely similar cars that were supposed to be unique at the same time.
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Just the P1 and 918 is good enough. I honestly don't care about the La Ferrari. I really liked the 458 but I haven't really cared about any other Ferrari.
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1500quidporsche posted:I would agree. Didn't they need to borrow an Enzo because Ferrari wouldn't lend it to them? I think the FXX wasn't exactly stock either from recollection there was something about it being Michael Schumachers personal car. I'm not sure McLaren or Porsche would care too much at this point because they've probably sold all of their planned production runs already.
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The FXX quite simply isn't a road car in any shape or form.
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Clarkson got Ice Bucket Challenged...rather, his kids gently caress with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU6pB7s7rtg
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