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I think I don't know how to make music cause everything I make is just a loud repeating whirring noise and I can't understand phases of a song or how to create them or anything. It's annoying cause it's like I need just a little guidance and some switch will flip over in my brain and I'll "get it" I can gently caress with synthesizers, I understand how they work, but when it comes to making sequences that feed into other sequences, I'm lost. Programming drums? No idea. Do I use the same beat forever? Do I just make it up? I get tons of cool sounds or noises loving around, but can't utilize them at all unless I want a droning 2 minute track on soundcloud. 
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Aug 1, 2014 17:47
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Theres lots of ways to figure it out (Im not even saying I have really). One way is to just take a song you like and try to recreate it. Like break down all the sequences you'd need and make them, and see how they fit together. Then use that as a mental template to make your own song. Then experiment with the template. Then buy a robot fart-tron death machine and make 20 minute long blorps.
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Aug 1, 2014 17:52
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Music making secrets: Make something that you yourself like enough that you could call it a finished track, however long and complex it takes for you to be satisfied. Then put it somewhere online for people to hear it so that you've released it and are done with it, reflect on what you did well, what could've been better and what you learned, and start working on your next thing. E: I've released every single thing I've made and considered "finished" since 2012 and have thus far released a full-length album, 4 EPs and a remix EP plus some extra crap like demos and alternate versions on SoundCloud, altogether adding up to a total of 31 original tracks, 7 remixes/alternate versions of my own tracks and a cover. Gonna add three new tracks to that list in a couple of weeks and I'm already working on a bunch of new poo poo to be released after that. releasing things 
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Aug 1, 2014 18:31
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Sizone posted:Dunno waffle, though I am probably only working halfish shifts next week. I'll be broke but will have late afternoon/evenings free. If you're willing to come to Waikiki I'm willing to give you free beer.
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Aug 1, 2014 20:54
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If someone else wants to make a music programming thread I will def come by sometimes to give outdated Max/MSP advice. Tangentially related: one of the faders just came off my MIDI keyboard (Novation Launchkey). I am trying to squeeze it back in so I can still feel like this is new.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:09
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toadee posted:One way is to just take a song you like and try to recreate it. This is truth. You never get there and make your own song instead.
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Aug 2, 2014 05:25
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:I think I don't know how to make music cause everything I make is just a loud repeating whirring noise and I can't understand phases of a song or how to create them or anything. There are no rules. What's wrong with making cool sounds and noises and droning 2 minute tracks? Keep on expressing yourself in the way that is most true to yourself. Don't feel pressured to conform to some unicorn's dream of a Platonic ideal song form.
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Aug 2, 2014 09:42
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Scatterfold posted:haha I've said that I did so I'm gonna show the goods: https://soundcloud.com/scatterfold/sets/davoren-arc. Three tracks I've done in the last few weeks, all with the same kit. Very Opal Tapes-y I think; so minimal, warm house if that's your thing. really cool this
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Aug 2, 2014 10:04
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http://www.artefacts.nl/products.html Artefacts cz-101 battery mod has passed the +/- 24 hours unplugged and patches still stored test. It's a little pricey and the installation is a tiny little bit involved for what it is, but, by golly, it works.
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Aug 2, 2014 10:28
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Flipperwaldt posted:Cool! The track works fine without filters, for what it's worth Thanks  All this stuff from 20-15 years ago now looks so alien to me...
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Aug 2, 2014 12:12
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Scatterfold posted:haha I've said that I did so I'm gonna show the goods: https://soundcloud.com/scatterfold/sets/davoren-arc. Three tracks I've done in the last few weeks, all with the same kit. Very Opal Tapes-y I think; so minimal, warm house if that's your thing. Good stuff man, thanks for sharing.
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Aug 2, 2014 19:50
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Whatever, it's not like anyone's gonna talk about the finished pieces of music they recently made in this thread anyway You say that and yet just four pages ago I posted this: HotCanadianChick posted:I always record my jams. I know nobody in the thread bothered listening to it, but still. Explain yourself, mister.  Scatterfold posted:haha I've said that I did so I'm gonna show the goods: https://soundcloud.com/scatterfold/sets/davoren-arc. Three tracks I've done in the last few weeks, all with the same kit. Very Opal Tapes-y I think; so minimal, warm house if that's your thing. I like this. And it doesn't make me seasick.
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Aug 2, 2014 22:04
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Having no free time sucks.
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ynohtna posted:There are no rules. What's wrong with making cool sounds and noises and droning 2 minute tracks? Anthony you're the man and my sound cloud hero so I'm very feeling this.
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Aug 2, 2014 22:28
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gently caress it then! This is one of my things - a recent jam https://soundcloud.com/meterer/parmenides
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Aug 2, 2014 23:37
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I went to a synth convention today and saw a guy using a USB ribbon controller. I didn't know these things existed! He was using it to control a simple sine wave, and it sounded beautiful, like an ondes martenot. Anyway, I've been searching for like an hour and can't find anything like it online. I've found the kickstarted Oneribbon controller, but it doesn't look quite the same, and requires some DIY. There's also the Continuum, which is gigantic and super-expensive. The one this chap was using looked like a sort of thin white curtainrail. It's possible it was home-made. Can anyone recommend any ribbon controllers, then? It's possible you can't really get them yet? Popcorn fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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Aug 3, 2014 01:16
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http://www.eowave.com/instruments.php?prod=78 http://www.paia.com/ProdArticles/dual-ribbon-howto.htm I've always been curious about that Eowave one, and about the seemingly simple process of building one myself. I really like that sound myself. A bit of reverb and you are in space instantly.
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Aug 3, 2014 04:00
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Thank you! That's led me to what I'm pretty sure is what I saw the guy using: http://www.doepfer.de/R2M.htm
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Aug 3, 2014 04:35
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Sizone is pretty cool but I think his daughter thinks I'm some kind of cosmic horror a la Lovecraft. e. synths synths synths synths
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Aug 3, 2014 09:23
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your music's got those innsmouth hooks
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Aug 3, 2014 10:21
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Sizone is pretty cool but I think his daughter thinks I'm some kind of cosmic horror a la Lovecraft. I ran into Moby at the mall. Funny, I always thought he would be taller.
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Aug 3, 2014 10:23
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Fors Yard posted:your music's got those innsmouth hooks Holy poo poo ahahahahahahahaha Sizone posted:I ran into Moby at the mall. Funny, I always thought he would be taller. I am actually taller than Moby. WAFFLEHOUND fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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Aug 3, 2014 10:53
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So I was finally able to finish a song after being sick for two weeks and not being able to think clear enough to get something I was about 90% complete on. The drums I'm particularly proud of this time around since I was able to get a really industrial (at least to me) sound out of only using Tatoo and QuadFrohmage. Also 90% of this was with VST's with most of them being instances of Alchemy and Bazille so hail satan and all that. https://soundcloud.com/bell-labs-orchestra/irregular-satellites
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Aug 3, 2014 11:08
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most people posted:I am actually taller than Moby.
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Aug 4, 2014 00:48
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Guys I love Moby especially early stuff like demons/horses and Heaven. Where can I too randomly bump into him?
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Aug 4, 2014 02:00
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Just pointing out the irony (coincidence?) of his namesake and the fact that you are trying to find him.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:58
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toadee posted:Guys I love Moby especially early stuff like demons/horses and Heaven. Where can I too randomly bump into him? Hide in the bushes and make a noise like a vegan enchilada.
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Aug 4, 2014 03:10
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toadee posted:Guys I love Moby especially early stuff like demons/horses and Heaven. Where can I too randomly bump into him? I do parties for a nominal fee.
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Aug 4, 2014 03:21
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I remade the theme to my horror short film I made back in 2005. https://soundcloud.com/kyhmusic-1/watcher-in-the-dark-2014
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Aug 4, 2014 07:25
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The TB3 is TerriBle! I just got one in the mail today from a trade. It looks neat but sounds like crud. I'm not even coming at this instrument from a "this is a good TB303 clone", I wanted to try it out just as a fun toy, maybe something I could use to sequence other gear with if the sounds aren't great. I've only played with it for an hour or so but I don't think it even meets the fun toy criteria. Maybe I can use it a a nightlight instead.
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Aug 4, 2014 18:32
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:Anthony you're the man and my sound cloud hero so I'm very feeling this. Aw, thanks comrade, but I'm just a chump who became a bit too intimate with self-defeating mindsets. This month's solution to writer's block: collaborating with singers and poets who desire some drones and beats.
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Aug 4, 2014 18:43
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:The TB3 is TerriBle! Firmly disagree here. Look, it's kind of lovely as a 303 clone, there are too many restrictions on it and the decision to eliminate some of the envelope settings was questionable at best and retarded as gently caress at worst. If you want to actually enjoy it a lot you've got to either view it as a 303 clone that you can afford to get hammered around or you've got to start digging into the patches after A25 (and even then only A25 with the effects knob a little bit up). It suffers from Kaoss Pad syndrome where Roland thought it'd be loving fantastic to put some reverb on absolutely everything rather than have that be a user option, which is really annoying from the perspective of computer music since I want to be able to route sidechaing around reverb sometimes, but as long as you didn't pay full price on it its a really fun little box.
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Aug 4, 2014 20:00
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:but as long as you didn't pay full price on it its a really fun little box. The Aira's are going to be amazing in a year's time when everyone who expected they could buy their way straight into acid-techno godhood sells them off for pennies. Doubly so when those ugly-rear end green lightpipes burn out.
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Aug 4, 2014 20:50
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The only thing that interested me about the TB-3 were the other sounds actually. I knew enough from reading reviews and other people's comments to know that I won't be happy with it as an acid machine so maybe it would suffice as a quirky VA bass instrument. I don't think the patches themselves disappointed me (there's good variety!) as much as the bad filter emulation. The filter just sounds completely flat to my ears, very linear, applying it to the various sounds did not bring out as much color as I had hoped. I can easily make many of those patches on another synth and tweaking through a different filter would sound far superior, so why keep the TB-3 around? Also the touchpad keyboard and the way you're forced to program your sequence kind of bothers me. There are no back or forward buttons when programming your steps as far as I can see. If you want to edit any notes, add slides or accents, etc you have to start from step 1 and re-enter your entire sequence. Hit the wrong note on step 7? Too bad you have to cycle through all your notes again to change it (and try not to screw up any of the notes you've already programmed correctly or you'll have more work cut out for you). Despite having certain opinions about the Aria line I like to try machines first hand in order to make up my mind. I got mine for cheap so I figured I might as well just give it a go. I'm sure for some these are fun to play with but I guess the simplest way to put it is that the TB-3 just isn't my style.
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:Also the touchpad keyboard and the way you're forced to program your sequence kind of bothers me. There are no back or forward buttons when programming your steps as far as I can see. If you want to edit any notes, add slides or accents, etc you have to start from step 1 and re-enter your entire sequence. Hit the wrong note on step 7? Too bad you have to cycle through all your notes again to change it (and try not to screw up any of the notes you've already programmed correctly or you'll have more work cut out for you). Oh, okay, your objections to the TB-3 are because you didn't read the manual of one of the easiest to use synths ever made and maybe you're kind of dumb. Here, let me solve this problem for you, I know it's really complicated so you might want to take notes: Turn the knob on the top right.
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Aug 4, 2014 22:10
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:Despite having certain opinions about the Aria line I like to try machines first hand in order to make up my mind. Talk about inefficient. Most of us just said it was poo poo the moment the demo came out and called it a day. Not always the best tactic but hey it worked out alright this time. WAFFLEHOUND posted:Here, let me solve this problem for you, I know it's really complicated so you might want to take notes: Turn the knob on the top right. Is that the ~Scatter~ knob?
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Aug 4, 2014 22:18
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The TB-3 has a scat button, not knob.
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Aug 4, 2014 22:19
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:you didn't read the manual Be fair now: the TB3 owners manual is extremely long and tiresome to digest. vvvv Stop applying scatter to my sarcasm. ynohtna fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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Aug 4, 2014 22:28
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It's like one double sided sheet and even then it's super intuitive.
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Aug 4, 2014 22:39
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Anyone in need of some awesome static noises and background chatter to sample? http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/a11_audio_db.html
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So far, this sums up my synth experience: Hard Synth (Korg Volca bass) 1. Open box 2. Put in batteries 3. Press key 4. Beeps come out, yay! Soft Synth ( Komplete Elements with Reaktor player and Kontact) 1. Install Komplete. takes 45 mins. 2. Update Komplete, takes 45 mins 3. Struggle with getting midi keyboard and audio out to work 4. Midi works, adio doesn't 5. Audio works, is scratchy. Restart Reaktor, YAY BEEPS. 6. Start up kontact, try to set up audio, crashes 7. It crashes on startup several times in a row 8. starts up, try to get it to play over the right audio channels agin. 9. GOTO 6. gently caress. ALL the DAW's are like 400$ plus for the full version, if they are as annoying as Komplete I'll put off getting one as long as possible. AxeBreaker fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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