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pangstrom posted:Nobody cares but us but: all I know was when I watched the movie I found her to be a 2d-girl-written-by-a-nerd in a way I've seen a lot before and in a way that didn't help the movie and that part just came across as rear end-covering to me. it's weird, because i could have easily interpreted that smiths scene in (500) days of summer as 'well, that's super annoying but some people are just super annoying and it's actually these characters being super annoying, not the writer.' but that's not what i felt. in other films, like eternal sunshine or in linklater's before trilogy and in boyhood, i do automatically interpret the characters in that way. like in boyhood you have ethan hawke's character going on about bush in the most stereotypical american liberal during the early 2000's way. considering that those scenes were shot around that time, it's easy to interpret it as a statement by the director, but instead i saw it as just a part of hawke's character. i think it's to do with how it's built up. both carrey and hawke have clearly been built up as essentially just being 'that guy' - being that guy fits with their character. meanwhile with Deschanel this was literally her introduction. here she is: (ugh) quirky. winslet, meanwhile, had a similar introduction where it's clear she's meant to be seen as quirky too. this is done less bluntly, however, and because up until then we've been following carrey's story rather than their story, you're dragged along with him and it's quickly made obvious that quirky wasn't the right term - she's extroverted, yes, but There's More. even in her introduction there were enough moments where the beat skipped enough to keep her interesting. i dunno, i think that was a big part of the plot. the uneasy transition from infatuation to love, from dating to a relationship, getting to know someone better, facing reality about the expectations people have about each other, fully recognising the humanity of your significant other, etc. but i can obviously see that it's a very subjective thing and a lot depends on the quality of the writing. it convinced me, but it obviously didn't convince you while maybe you weren't turned off by the smiths scene in (500) days. thanks for reading these words about movie
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in another request for lists, have you ever been shocked by a movie? i mean, not like a jump scare or a 'drat, a serbian film', but more of a 'i'm involuntarily saying holy poo poo while wathing this' mine are, off the top of my head: La piel que habito and Incendies. both managed to get me engrossed enough to prevent me from seeing what was going on until just before it's actually revealed - but you still have enough time to realise what's happening and i just started going 'no no no no no don't you dare that's messed up no no no' and then the scene hits. i dream of being able to write something like that, man.
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R. Mute posted:in another request for lists, have you ever been shocked by a movie? i mean, not like a jump scare or a 'drat, a serbian film', but more of a 'i'm involuntarily saying holy poo poo while wathing this' Arlington Road It could literally ruin that movie just knowing the name, though. So it's hard to recommend without ruining the movie with the recommendation.
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i dunno, unless it's a m night shyamalan type 'a truck hits you out of left field' twist, it should be fine, right? like in the films i mentioned, you go into them knowing that things will be coming to light before the end of it, but it's how it's presented and what exactly will be revealed that make it shocking - rather than the presence of a reveal itself.
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Aug 4, 2014 18:02
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You know, between the Ebola outbreak, all the wars and rumors of wars and so on, Jack van Impe must be walking around with the hugest hardon.
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http://www.vox.com/2014/8/4/5967181/kentucky-state-university-president-minimum-wage
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R. Mute posted:in another request for lists, have you ever been shocked by a movie? i mean, not like a jump scare or a 'drat, a serbian film', but more of a 'i'm involuntarily saying holy poo poo while wathing this' Fairly mild, but I watched Natural Born Killers with a friend without either of us knowing anything about it.
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Aug 4, 2014 18:22
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Memento comes to mind. Oh and Usual Suspects of course
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Oh yeah, Memento's a good one. Much better than Inception, by the way. Another one that doesn't exactly fit the description of having a big shocking reveal, but was still plenty shocking was 'Come and See.' That's a film you watch in horrified silence and then end it off with a quiet 'drat.'
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Aug 4, 2014 18:42
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The Big Hit, because my cousin took me to see it when I was young and I realized that I'd never get those two hours of my life back.
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Aug 4, 2014 18:48
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Grizzly Man is an example of a movie that is really good because the ending isn't at all shocking.
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Joementum posted:Grizzly Man is an example of a movie that is really good because the ending isn't at all shocking. And it still feels like a Morris documentary.
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Aug 4, 2014 19:18
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lol at someone saying Werner Herzog isn't hammy.
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There isn't even a need to create a parody of a hammy Herzog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWH_9VRWn8Y I like his dramas better than his documentaries though. Aguirre is just too much fun, and a movie with a great ending.
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Aug 4, 2014 19:43
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Joementum posted:Grizzly Man is an example of a movie that is really good because the ending isn't at all shocking. You didn't find Werner Herzog telling the lady to destroy the tape shocking? 
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His documentary about burning oil fields in Kuwait is crazy, especially with that Wagner score.
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There's a cool one where he goes into Siberia to follow how people live in Siberia. It's called Happy People.
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Joementum posted:There isn't even a need to create a parody of a hammy Herzog. Ahahaha, holy God - Herzog distilled into two and a half minutes. quote:I like his dramas better than his documentaries though. Aguirre is just too much fun, and a movie with a great ending. "Fitzcarraldo" is great because it's kind of like a drama and a documentary at once, since the animosity between Klaus Kinski and everyone else around him was 100% real.
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The only Herzog I've ever been exposed to has come by way of Adomian.
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Radbot posted:The only Herzog I've ever been exposed to has come by way of Adomian. Do you mean Paul F. Tompkins? I haven't heard Adomian do Herzog, although I wouldn't be surprised.
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Adomian doesn't do Herzog, but his Hitchens is a thing of beauty.
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So, what's Preet Bharara running for and when?
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R. Mute posted:in another request for lists, have you ever been shocked by a movie? There were two scenes in Irreversible that did that for me.
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The Warszawa posted:So, what's Preet Bharara running for and when? I hope never because I can't take the punny headlines that will result.
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Joementum posted:Adomian doesn't do Herzog, but his Hitchens is a thing of beauty. "gently caress you all, yes, gently caress you all."
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zoux posted:I hope never because I can't take the punny headlines that will result. "The Great Preetinder"
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zoux posted:I hope never because I can't take the punny headlines that will result. My standing assumption was that he's positioning himself for Schumer's seat when it opens up, but I guess he might go for a Congressional seat. Also, are there any Portuguese speakers in the thread who can comment on Duolingo's Portuguese set? I feel like I'm learning stuff but I'm wary that it might be a crock of poo poo. SedanChair posted:"The Great Preetinder" At some point in some thread, you replied to me with a YouTube link that I glanced at the title of and didn't watch because I was phone posting, but it got saved in my reading list and I just spotted it today. Turns out it was Kurgan in Highlander talking about burning out and fading away. Man, threads take weird turns. The Warszawa fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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I just saw on the twitters that Slate published an interview with Herzog today. It contains this:quote:When was the first time you refused a joint?
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The Warszawa posted:At some point in some thread, you replied to me with a YouTube link that I glanced at the title of and didn't watch because I was phone posting, but it got saved in my reading list and I just spotted it today. Turns out it was Kurgan in Highlander talking about burning out and fading away. Man, threads take weird turns. Wait...how did you respond to me with a Highlander reference about beheading me and taking my power then 
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SedanChair posted:Wait...how did you respond to me with a Highlander reference about beheading me and taking my power then Because I looked at the title and knew the reference, I just rediscovered the link today and was like "I remember where this link came from but not the context." I just actually watched the clip today. Alternatively, who said that was a reference ...
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Ugh I thought about MRAs for a second and now I'm gettin irl mad...
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The Bastiat Institute. Because of course it's Libertarians who made that.
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Joementum posted:The Bastiat Institute. Because of course it's Libertarians who made that. What in the world MRAs have to do with libertarianism is beyond me. I mean, I know exactly where those Venn diagrams overlap, but it ain't politics.
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'Homocide', too, hmm. Unless they are talking about gay bashing to death? In movie-chat, going to see The Shining in a theater on Saturday  I wonder if I should watch Room 237 before or after?
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I giggled at homocide. I'm literally 12. Spellcheck your poo poo when you try to make a point!
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Aug 4, 2014 20:38
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100/0 Prostate Cancer smdh.
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zoux posted:What in the world MRAs have to do with libertarianism is beyond me. I mean, I know exactly where those Venn diagrams overlap, but it ain't politics. You're taking Libertarians at their word that they really do mean individual liberty. That's probably not the case.
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Joementum posted:I just saw on the twitters that Slate published an interview with Herzog today. It contains this: This is my favorite thread, I just wanted to put that out there guys. 
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Joementum posted:You're taking Libertarians at their word that they really do mean individual liberty. That's probably not the case. Isn't quoting from your own book kind of gauche?
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