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He might have stopped using torture so much (not that he really had any specific situation where it would have been really useful and decided not to), but he also stopped giving a gently caress. See: guy he punched in the face to get his car without saying anything
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Pretty sure he only regretted "torturing" Sansa Starkish because he pushed it too far and knocked her unconscious - thus delaying further questioning...and torture.
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I thought it was kind of dumb that Adrian Cross just happened to be Navarro's contact. Did Cross know that Chloe was being held in the basement of the very building that Navarro worked at? Was it a coincidence? Or was Adrian Cross somehow involved in Chloe's capture?
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I thought it was kind of dumb that Adrian Cross just happened to be Navarro's contact. Did Cross know that Chloe was being held in the basement of the very building that Navarro worked at? Was it a coincidence? Or was Adrian Cross somehow involved in Chloe's capture? Chloe was at the CIA building so the first episode could open with an action sequence involving Jack breaking her out. How did Jack know she was at the CIA building to begin with? Because the writers needed him to know. Remember, he only broke her out so she could lead him to Open Cell's super secret hideout. Jack somehow knew Chloe was being held at the CIA location, was sure that he could break her out, and was sure that she'd immediately run back to Cross' location. Think about how contrived that is. Or rather, don't, since it's 
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Jul 31, 2014 19:45
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I always hated those answers "Why did this happen? Because the writer wrote it that way". Might as well tell the person to gently caress off.
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Jul 31, 2014 19:51
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GreenNight posted:I always hated those answers "Why did this happen? Because the writer wrote it that way". Might as well tell the person to gently caress off. It's a legit explanation for why certain things happen in 24, though. The plots constantly rely on unlikely and/or unexplained events to keep the story moving. Something being unlikely is one thing, but 24 particularly thrives on unexplained plot points to keep things moving. Hell, just look at the last handful of episodes from Live Another Day. Cross was prepared to use the override immediately despite having no idea he would ever come into possession of it. And then Cheng just happens to be in London at that very moment, prepared to take possession of the override AND use it immediately. That's a lot of coincidences involving a device that may not have ever made it out of the CIA's possession. All of that unlikely and unexplained poo poo happens because the writers needed it to. 
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hypersleep posted:It's a legit explanation for why certain things happen in 24, though. The plots constantly rely on unlikely and/or unexplained events to keep the story moving. Something being unlikely is one thing, but 24 particularly thrives on unexplained plot points to keep things moving. It was revealed the Cross designed the override from the beginning, and that he was making it for the Chinese. I guess you missed that part.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I thought it was kind of dumb that Adrian Cross just happened to be Navarro's contact. Did Cross know that Chloe was being held in the basement of the very building that Navarro worked at? Was it a coincidence? Or was Adrian Cross somehow involved in Chloe's capture? Cross actually liked her. Maybe Navarro had her taken in as leverage? Would have been nice to have that filled in.
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Man, I've been rewatching 24 now that it's over (for the time being only, hopefully...) and on season 5 right now...Lassie from Psych shows up as a terrorist for a full episode attack the shopping mall! Kinda fun rewatching and paying a little more attention to the side/background actors.
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Jul 31, 2014 23:58
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:It was revealed the Cross designed the override from the beginning, and that he was making it for the Chinese. I guess you missed that part. I didn't miss that part. My post was in regard to both Cross' and Cheng's plans in the last few episodes being entirely dependent on the override making it out of the CIA's possession, something neither of them could've known was a sure thing. Also, Cross creating the override for the Chinese doesn't explain how Cheng could've known to be in London at the exact time to take possession of the device from Cross. Neither of them could've known Navarro would successfully get the override outside of the CIA, so how the hell did Cheng mobilize so quickly?
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That probably would have been a better time to make use of the timejump. As it stands the timejump doesn't really make any sense. Before the season started, I assumed that the timejump would be Jack on a plane back to America.
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The fact that a bunch of drones had been hijacked was worldwide news, Cheng could have two and two together and headed straight to London to find Cross. Of course that'd make more sense if he waited for the threat to be over before turning up, which limits how much time he had to travel, but since he was employing Cross to make the override device it's not unreasonable to assume he was relatively close by anyway to keep tabs on him.
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Aug 1, 2014 02:06
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Cross made the device for the Cheng who worked on behalf of the Russians. The Chinese had nothing to do with its construction except I suppose Cross assumes incorrectly that Cheng works for the Chinese. Which is out of character for him. As usual the plot makes no sense but when has it ever.
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I saw Chloe O'Brian do stand up comedy last night it was awesome. She was so cute 
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vyst posted:I saw Chloe O'Brian do stand up comedy last night it was awesome. She was so cute When she's not making the Chloe face she's actually very attractive.
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Basebf555 posted:When she's not making the Chloe face she's actually very attractive. I know. It's so weird.
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jscolon2.0 posted:I know. It's so weird. She's a method actor.
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Basebf555 posted:When she's not making the Chloe face she's actually very attractive. She was raunchy too. 
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movax posted:Man, I've been rewatching 24 now that it's over (for the time being only, hopefully...) and on season 5 right now...Lassie from Psych shows up as a terrorist for a full episode attack the shopping mall! Kinda fun rewatching and paying a little more attention to the side/background actors. Haha, I did the same thing a month ago when I was watching it. "Holy poo poo, it's Lassie!!" Then he dies 
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Chuck Tanner posted:Haha, I did the same thing a month ago when I was watching it. "Holy poo poo, it's Lassie!!" Then he dies Or in the first season when you notice one of Dennis Hooper's kids is Castiel from Supernatural.
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Or, you know, Samwise Gamgee showing up in season 5 like he's a regular person.
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GAINING WEIGHT... posted:Or, you know, Samwise Gamgee showing up in season 5 like he's a regular person. Rudy was unable to use that underdog spirit to help him survive the gas.
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bobkatt013 posted:Rudy was unable to use that underdog spirit to help him survive the gas. I'm on Ep 20 of S5 re-watch right now...the full 24 episode season reminds you of how much stuff they can cram into a season. I had forgotten all about the shopping mall and Mark Sheppard by this point and I just posted about it a few days ago. I should probably skip re-watching S6.
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movax posted:I should probably skip re-watching S6. Honestly yeah. I'm loving 7 but 6 was just boring as hell.
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Even the Amazon Prime episode descriptions for season 6 suck rear end. This one for 7 just made me laugh though. e: attachments broken? 
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Aug 4, 2014 20:48
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bobkatt013 posted:Rudy was unable to use that underdog spirit to help him survive the gas. Its crazy how films and roles stay with you. I swear I thought Astin's character would get of it somehow, but there was no reason really to believe that, he was pretty much done for. But he's Rudy so I just had to believe he could. The ghost of Rudy helped the Samwise character too; I felt that Frodo was very safe and that their journey would succeed, because Rudy doesn't fail. Same thing happened when Kiefer went and made those movies The Sentinel and Mirrors. My brain kept telling me he would Jack Bauer his way out of the situation at any moment.
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Basebf555 posted:Its crazy how films and roles stay with you. I swear I thought Astin's character would get of it somehow, but there was no reason really to believe that, he was pretty much done for. But he's Rudy so I just had to believe he could. The ghost of Rudy helped the Samwise character too; I felt that Frodo was very safe and that their journey would succeed, because Rudy doesn't fail. It's pretty  in the episode when the red shirt's like "we're OK! we're gonnna be OK  " and then 5 seconds later violently convulses and dies on the floor.
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HOly poo poo the actress who plays Chloe is so terrible I couldn't even take this show seriously. I checked out a few "Best of" lists to find out if there's a consensus on the best season and it was Season 5 by a wide margin. SO I watched that, and she's JUST AS BAD. Years later and she speaks her line with absolutely no gravity, and appears to be looking to someone just off-camera to show her how to move her face to portray the emotion she should currently be expressing. I wish she took that bullet instead of the constant love interest. Is she related to Sutherland or a big time producer in real life? How did she remain employed since season one?
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I think I'm going to brave Season 6 after finishing 1. Or maybe I'll do 3 first. I've never actually finished S6 before, I just got tired of it about two-thirds of the way through, so I figure I at least ought to watch it all once so I can complain about it properly.a cop posted:Even the Amazon Prime episode descriptions for season 6 suck rear end. This one for 7 just made me laugh though.
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homo punching bag posted:HOly poo poo the actress who plays Chloe is so terrible I couldn't even take this show seriously. I checked out a few "Best of" lists to find out if there's a consensus on the best season and it was Season 5 by a wide margin. SO I watched that, and she's JUST AS BAD. Years later and she speaks her line with absolutely no gravity, and appears to be looking to someone just off-camera to show her how to move her face to portray the emotion she should currently be expressing. I wish she took that bullet instead of the constant love interest. Is she related to Sutherland or a big time producer in real life? How did she remain employed since season one? No and she was there only from season 3. That is also her character and she does and really good job at it.
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homo punching bag posted:HOly poo poo the actress who plays Chloe is so terrible I couldn't even take this show seriously. I checked out a few "Best of" lists to find out if there's a consensus on the best season and it was Season 5 by a wide margin. SO I watched that, and she's JUST AS BAD. Years later and she speaks her line with absolutely no gravity, and appears to be looking to someone just off-camera to show her how to move her face to portray the emotion she should currently be expressing. I wish she took that bullet instead of the constant love interest. Is she related to Sutherland or a big time producer in real life? How did she remain employed since season one? You seem to think your opinion is the normal one and we are all crazy. I assure you that this is not the case. If you really can't stand Chloe then you might as well give up now because she's the leading female role of the entire show.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:You seem to think your opinion is the normal one and we are all crazy. I assure you that this is not the case. If you really can't stand Chloe then you might as well give up now because she's the leading female role of the entire show. I don't think anything of you, it's just my first time being exposed to the character in a long time and I don't remember her being so grating. Like everyone else is a professional actor and they plucked her out of a highschool play. I enjoyed the new season and season 5 was really good on Netflix, minus Chloe. You may continue your normal thread now.
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In all fairness, Mary Lynn Rajskub is a terrible actress with the delivery of a text-to-speech program. We only really like her because she's the one person who stuck by Jack all these years.
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Chloe is an aspie. Her emotional stuntedness and inability to make eye contact are deliberate.
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homo punching bag posted:HOly poo poo the actress who plays Chloe is so terrible I couldn't even take this show seriously. I checked out a few "Best of" lists to find out if there's a consensus on the best season and it was Season 5 by a wide margin. SO I watched that, and she's JUST AS BAD. Years later and she speaks her line with absolutely no gravity, and appears to be looking to someone just off-camera to show her how to move her face to portray the emotion she should currently be expressing. I wish she took that bullet instead of the constant love interest. Is she related to Sutherland or a big time producer in real life? How did she remain employed since season one? it's okay i'm gay too
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Chloe was as annoying as hell until she machined gunned that dude.
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She was pretty normal on Californicaton
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Season 3 Chloe was worse than Season 3 Kim.
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It's interesting, watching S1 episode 13 (the last episode of the original show order) and imagining what it would be like if that were the last episode of 24 we'd ever gotten. In some ways, it plays itself as a very good ending point: Jack is reunited with his family and they fly off into the day, Palmer decides he's going to win the election once and for all so he can deal with Carl and his associates, Tony and Nina are free, Gaines is dead, Rick runs off to get a second chance. On the other hand, none of the Serbian plot has paid off, and we don't know why Andre Drazen wants Palmer dead or why it's personal with Jack. I don't know if the last "there's a second shooter" scene would have been in there if the show were ending at that point either. Teri would still be alive, Sherry and David would still be married, Sherry would be just slightly untrustworthy rather than Lady Macbeth, and Nina would be a good guy. (In fact, as I recall, Nina was decided to be the second mole right as they started writing the second half of the season; so this is in a sense the last episode where she's not the mole.) There would basically be no long term consequences to the day (not that there would be a long term if it were canceled...). It would be an interesting little experimental show about a guy who saved his family and killed some bad dudes, the end. Oh, there would be no onscreen torture in the entire series. Now that's weird.
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