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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Swink posted:

You know the feeling of dread you get when the thread is about to devolve into a useless semantic argument? I got that feeling.


Content: 30gb .ost file. Mailbox is only 5gb. What gives?

Is it 30 gig after it's rebuilt?

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Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
gently caress printers. That is all.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

Swink posted:

You know the feeling of dread you get when the thread is about to devolve into a useless semantic argument? I got that feeling.


Content: 30gb .ost file. Mailbox is only 5gb. What gives?

Outlook doesn't normally shrink the OST/PST files. So when an email is deleted, it's still taking up space in the file. I think there's a button to shrink the file down hidden in Outlook, but if it's an OST file, it'll probably be quicker to just delete and rebuild it.

rob_squared
Nov 5, 2009

News, everyone!
Pissing me off: departments that refuse to do work.

A little backstory: I'm new to QA and I've become the champion of a really, really, stupid issue. I can't be too specific but basically we implemented a new feature that relies on an xml file present in the firmware of our product. The fix I and every sane person want to implement involves adding basically 2 statements to the xml file. The team that handles firmware changes goes "oh no, we'll have to refactor it and it'll have to be in a new firmware update." And my natural response is, "so?" We have those a couple times each year, just do it, this issue isn't going away. Instead, these chucklefucks want to implement an entirely new configuration wizard on all platforms we support to work around the issue (that's my team's job).

No, I will fight you with my dying breath on this, just edit the drat file!

mpyro
Feb 9, 2003

'Cause I live and breathe this Fillydelphia freedom

Aryan Jesus posted:

gently caress printers. That is all.

I agree

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Swink posted:

You know the feeling of dread you get when the thread is about to devolve into a useless semantic argument? I got that feeling.


Content: 30gb .ost file. Mailbox is only 5gb. What gives?

Could also be public folders, usually they shouldn't cache in the OST but you can make them. MS don't recommend this as it can blow your OST out to an unwieldy size.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I had a stupid client that thinks when their mouse has hit the edge of the mousepad, that's as far as they can go. Obviously the mouse is at fault as it cannot reach to the edge of the screen.

canis minor
May 4, 2011

Humphreys posted:

I had a stupid client that thinks when their mouse has hit the edge of the mousepad, that's as far as they can go. Obviously the mouse is at fault as it cannot reach to the edge of the screen.

Tell them when they hit the edge to pick the mouse up, move the mousepad and then to put the mouse exactly and carefully down - this should fool the mouse that its pen is larger.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
Remind them that pens don't work when you reach the edge of a piece of paper, so they really shouldn't be surprised.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Humphreys posted:

I had a stupid client that thinks when their mouse has hit the edge of the mousepad, that's as far as they can go. Obviously the mouse is at fault as it cannot reach to the edge of the screen.

This didn't actually happen, right? There's no way somebody is actually that dumb.

Also, Scott Adams has you covered as far as troubleshooting goes:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Inspector_666 posted:

This didn't actually happen, right? There's no way somebody is actually that dumb.


Oh, it happened. Was a few years ago now, but was a highlight of my stories about support. Was a card up my sleeve while talking about work poo poo at the pub. I think I have posted the hour it took me to realise my grandma's laptop with a display issue was actually just a monitor and keyboard, hence no signal.

EDIT:(over the phone support and me being slack thinking she knew the basics seeing she was one of the first typists in her pool to get a computer back in the day)

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Aug 4, 2014

canis minor
May 4, 2011

Similar highlight around here is:

:eng101: can you now move your mouse up
:derp: proceeds to lift the mouse in the air
:eng99: ... ok, can you move your mouse forward

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

eithedog posted:

Similar highlight around here is:

:eng101: can you now move your mouse up
:derp: proceeds to lift the mouse in the air
:eng99: ... ok, can you move your mouse forward

:derp: proceeds to move the mouse forward through the air

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

Jesus christ vmworld is the stupidest loving big conference I've ever seen.

Their schedule builder is retarded and makes it impossible to actually coordinate a schedule with co-workers. One of my co-workers had his registration screwed up and just now noticed it, and missed out on signing up for poo poo, as the sessions ahve filled up.

Is there anyone who likes the way VMWare does this?

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Modbus RTU and Omron's piss poor implementation of anything modbus is pissing me off today. Customer is livid even though everything worked during the FAT. gently caress.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT
loving HP iLO is ruining my Monday. Setup an IP address on the loving thing, it pings fine but no web interface loads. NMAP shows no loving ports are open. Verified all network/switch settings, everything seems fine. Running some old rear end iLO firmware, but since I cannot get the web interface up, I cannot update the firmware.

gently caress you HP.

Ryzic
Feb 28, 2009

No, actually. I would hate to have a cookie, you vapid waste of inedible flesh!
Grimey Drawer
Recruiters.

I'm okay getting linkedin spam. In fact, I'm open to it, because I'm planning on leaving this job in a few months.

I just got a phone call, transferred from the front desk (our company is 10 people), from a recruiter looking to place me an exciting position. He apparently found me on linkedin, clicked the company name, called the front desk number, and asked for me.

If you really wanted me to not tell you to gently caress off, you probably could have sent me a linkedin message, an email, send me a connection request... I don't really care, but calling the company I work for and asking and trying to recruit me is super not okay.

Wibla posted:

Modbus

Modbus and everything that it stands for can be purged from this planet.

stevewm
May 10, 2005
My boss...

He will send out a email, and then immediately call the person he sent the email to asking if they got it and proceed to tell them exactly what he had put in the email. Even does it with replies. Sometimes he makes the call before the email has even finished sending!

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

stevewm posted:

My boss...

He will send out a email, and then immediately call the person he sent the email to asking if they got it and proceed to tell them exactly what he had put in the email. Even does it with replies. Sometimes he makes the call before the email has even finished sending!

This is stupid, but you can become not annoyed with this by simply changing your mindset. He's not being super impatient. He's confirming everything he tells you in writing. Your rear end is covered, courtesy an impatient boss!

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
Or alternatively, he's helpfully providing you with a visual aid for the conversation he was going to have with you regardless!

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Someone needed local admin on a server, so we gave it to him. He then stripped domain admins from local admins on the server. So I turned off the server. This upset him. Poor guy. :(

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Someone needed local admin on a server, so we gave it to him. He then stripped domain admins from local admins on the server. So I turned off the server. This upset him. Poor guy. :(

This is great. How dare you try and manage "his" server.

Ironsolid
Mar 1, 2005

Fishing isn't an addiction, it's a way of life. Everything to gain while losing everything
So I work tech support for an unnamed company. Friday we got a circular email regarding Internet Exploder 10 being released and "how it's going to affect your everyday work experience"

quote:

All,

Internet Explorer 10 is coming soon. We have already identified some issue that may come up using it that will effect your everyday work experience.

1. Once it has been pushed to your computer and it restarts, you may need to do a 2nd re-start to get it going.
2. If you have a 3rd monitor IE 10 will freeze if you use it on the monitor assigned as your 3rd monitor.
a. Only suggestion offered is to not use IE on your 3rd monitor.

Are you serious? It's going to affect my everyday work EXPERIENCE? From day one, I disproved the development staff for our internal tools. They all stated VERY dramatically that the tools will ONLY work in internet explorer. So, in order to prove them wrong, I pulled up every last tool in Chrome AND Firefox with IE tab. Dumbfounded, they didn't ask a single question, as I was in training and obviously less intelligent and educated than they were, all they said was "it only works in Internet Explorer."

So, I left this whole ordeal be until now. I responded to the email (as we were required to for some... strange... reason... "Not using IE at all is a great option. Use IE Tab with Chrome"


... And then the poo poo starts...

Team Lead replied with posted:

"So how are you assisting our customers that are using IE?"

I saw this reply and I about had a fit. What in the hell? Where did that even come from?

me posted:

As I would with any other customer. I’m not sure what your comment has to do with the basis of the email, if you could please explain I would appreciate it.

Team Lead posted:

You reply insinuates that you don’t use IE. If that is the case I’m wondering how are troubleshooting IE issues.
That’s all.

At this point I'm wondering if this guy really is an idiot. He obviously can't read to save his life.

me posted:

You would be right in the assumption that I do not use Internet Explorer. However, in the many years I troubleshot the program over the phone, I have gained enough knowledge with the product to know how to resolve almost any issue with it. Not much has changed with IE outside of the UI, everything that breaks still breaks the same way and the fixes are all pretty much the same. With customer who do use IE, I resolve their issues and recommend they use another browser as either a primary or a backup and to always have a second browser available in case something were to arise and they need immediate resolution.

I thought that this was a respectful and pretty explanatory response, but the moron keeps on going;

Dumb... posted:

And how is the resolving the customer’s issue in IE.
Using another browser is never a solution, it’s a work around at best.

me posted:

Please re read the last sentence of my last reply carefully. It’s exactly what you said, “A resolution” AND “a workaround.” I am well versed in Internet Explorer, I don’t like it because it’s terrible software, but I know how to use it and resolve problems within it.

I figured a reiteration of what I had said before and a prompt to re read (I'm sure he didn't read the reply, at all). His final reply took the cake. Absolutely took the cake. I'm not going to be pursuing his job be taken from him and he be fired. This man sloths around the floor sexually harassing the women on the floor. He will literally stand by 2-3 of our agents ALL day long. All of which cannot stand him. Well, it's go time.

Fat rear end posted:

I just don’t understand how effective you can be not logging in and seeing exactly what the customer is seeing. However, in the event that we start having issues this conversation will be re-visited.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

Why are you wasting your time being adversarial like this? You're being super ridiculous too.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Every bit of that problem has been caused by you.

When development states that the tool works only in IE, what they are saying is that, if the customer is not using IE, the problem doesn't exist. The tool might work in 50 other browsers, but if you have Firefox 31 and the issue crops up, switch to IE. Who cares if this is a good idea? It's their software, they can decide what browsers are officially supported.

Then you decided to be belligerent in a reply-all, then you decided to be obtuse to the team lead, then you refuse to use IE repeatedly.

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of your role in the organization, as well as the level of give-a-gently caress that anyone has for which software you prefer. It's a work computer, not your personal PC, so if Internet Explorer is the order of the day, personal feelings aside, that's where you should live. Yeah of course a majority of people prefer Chrome to IE at this point, I don't know, go get a job in one of those companies. But you basically decided from the first reply, when you said "not using IE at all is a great option" that you were more interested in starting a fight than having a conversation.

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl
You work support for a product which is IE based, and you decided to reply to an email telling people that you don't use IE, you tell customers not to use IE, you don't actually reproduce their experience or their problems, you're pre-emptively using "workarounds" when the actual product probably works fine, imply that other people should be fired, and somehow everyone but you is "Moron"?

Is it possible to reach one's level of incompetence at the very bottom rung?

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
Also why are you just now getting an e-mail about IE10 coming out?

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Time zones. Still 2012 in parts of Estonia.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Ironsolid posted:

So I work tech support for an unnamed company.
I can't imagine how much that complicates doing business.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Flipperwaldt posted:

I can't imagine how much that complicates doing business.

It's the only SaaS platform that has really taken off in Brooklyn.

"Oh our cloud provider? You haven't heard of them, trust me."

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 30 days!

Inspector_666 posted:

Also why are you just now getting an e-mail about IE10 coming out?

I'm sure you're joking but he probably means rolled out internally. God I hope.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

More poo poo that pisses you off: My boss said I don't use Internet Explorer enough

skooky
Oct 2, 2013

These posts that crop up every few pages are my favourite part of this thread.

I sincerely hope you do not harbour any thoughts of progressing your career at the unnamed company after that poo poo-show. In fact, I would probably get an attitude-check and start looking for a new job if I were in your situation.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Ironsolid posted:

I disproved the development staff for our internal tools. They all stated VERY dramatically that the tools will ONLY work in internet explorer. So, in order to prove them wrong, I pulled up every last tool in Chrome AND Firefox with IE tab.

I'm going to focus on this bit. Why did you go out of your way to make people look stupid on your very first day? Do you like having enemies? What did proving wrong other employees, especially other employees that you may have to work with, accomplish? Next time you have support tickets that turn out to be software bugs, do you think the engineers are going to go out of their way to get that poo poo fixed so you can get your tickets resolved? Somehow I doubt it.

The right way to handle it would have been to smile and nod, and then go do your job, and experiment when you have a free moment or two. Load up the tools in the IE tabs of other browsers, fine. Then after you get comfortable and people start recognizing you as competent and genial (wait a month or two, it's not going to kill you), maybe bring up with the team lead that you found out that X tool works with an IE tab in another browser. Suggest maybe that, if all else fails and you can't fix a problem, helping the user set up for a second browser would with an IE tab for this particular tool might be an acceptable last resort option. Let the team lead make the call or take it up the chain.

He'll come back with either, "Sorry, we need to stick with IE and IE only because too many of our customers are not comfortable with anything but IE" or "The managers and I think this is a great idea, we're going to have a meeting to implement the new support protocol, great job newbie." Either way the team lead will probably appreciate that you used your brain to try and think of new/better solutions to a problem. And either way, you accept the decision and the praise and don't cause a loving scene over it.

People hate working with divas, especially when they start up on day loving one. The damage is probably done for your current company, but you should maybe try working with people for a while instead of finding points to score as soon as you enter their zip code.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
As full time jobs go, fewer people in IT have a degree than other typical jobs. Certainly fewer than say, engineers, finance, HR, etc. I actually do have a degree, from a pretty decent school. It's for this reason that I like to begin most of my conversations with "I have a degree so I'm probably going to talk over your head, but...". Always good to start out by letting people know where they stand.

e: I mean really, if I don't let you know how smart I am, who will??

MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Aug 5, 2014

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

As full time jobs go, fewer people in IT have a degree than other typical jobs. Certainly fewer than say, engineers, finance, HR, etc. I actually do have a degree, from a pretty decent school. It's for this reason that I like to begin most of my conversations with "I have a degree so I'm probably going to talk over your head, but...". Always good to start out by letting people know where they stand.

e: I mean really, if I don't let you know how smart I am, who will??

I have two degrees, which is the point where telling people how much smarter I am actually does them a disservice. They benefit more in the long term by letting my amazing brain spend those 2 seconds working on a real problem than actually communicating with them.

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

Ryzic posted:

If you really wanted me to not tell you to gently caress off, you probably could have sent me a linkedin message, an email, send me a connection request... I don't really care, but calling the company I work for and asking and trying to recruit me is super not okay.

An unsolicited recruiter (not anyone I've worked with in the past or anything) called me out of the blue once and left me a voicemail listing the names of a bunch of other current employees in my company who were working with him to look for other jobs. :cripes:

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

Che Delilas posted:

I have two degrees, which is the point where telling people how much smarter I am actually does them a disservice. They benefit more in the long term by letting my amazing brain spend those 2 seconds working on a real problem than actually communicating with them.
TWO degrees? Can we get this guy a mod star or something??

e: And for what it's worth I agreed with every point you made in your original post, just to double back to that. Sometimes it's more fun to pile on with a joke than to empty quote!

SubjectVerbObject
Jul 27, 2009
You guys and your fancy degrees.

I have .0175 radians.

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Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Ironsolid posted:

So I work tech support for an unnamed company. Friday we got a circular email regarding Internet Exploder 10 being released and "how it's going to affect your everyday work experience"


Are you serious? It's going to affect my everyday work EXPERIENCE? From day one, I disproved the development staff for our internal tools. They all stated VERY dramatically that the tools will ONLY work in internet explorer. So, in order to prove them wrong, I pulled up every last tool in Chrome AND Firefox with IE tab. Dumbfounded, they didn't ask a single question, as I was in training and obviously less intelligent and educated than they were, all they said was "it only works in Internet Explorer."

So, I left this whole ordeal be until now. I responded to the email (as we were required to for some... strange... reason... "Not using IE at all is a great option. Use IE Tab with Chrome"


... And then the poo poo starts...


I saw this reply and I about had a fit. What in the hell? Where did that even come from?



At this point I'm wondering if this guy really is an idiot. He obviously can't read to save his life.


I thought that this was a respectful and pretty explanatory response, but the moron keeps on going;



I figured a reiteration of what I had said before and a prompt to re read (I'm sure he didn't read the reply, at all). His final reply took the cake. Absolutely took the cake. I'm not going to be pursuing his job be taken from him and he be fired. This man sloths around the floor sexually harassing the women on the floor. He will literally stand by 2-3 of our agents ALL day long. All of which cannot stand him. Well, it's go time.

This was a pretty good fakepost tbqh.

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