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hhhat posted:The logical conclusion of everything they've been saying up till this point... I'm worried for them that they might have blown their load though. They've been doing the class warfare (rick santorum doing that haves and soon to be haves bullshit) thing for awhile now even though it's more of a one sided class slaughter at this point. Joementum posted:He later doubled down. zoux posted:These immigrant kids probably have Ebola, says Indiana Republican. Just want to put these two quotes together for maximum irony.
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comes along bort posted:In which a couple immigrants meet a dipshit: quote:Paul was quickly whisked away from the table by an aide and even left his food behind as Andiola handed her DACA card to King and offered to let him to rip it up. "I suddenly have a meeting I must attend!" As usual, libertarians show their true cowardice when confronted by the people their policies effect.
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I remember when Rick Santorum told us that Real Americans shouldn't use terms like "Middle Class" because that's Marxist talk. "The Governor [Mitt Romney] used a term earlier that I shrink from, and it’s one that I don’t think we should be using as Republicans: “Middle class.” There are no classes in America. We’re a country that don’t allow for titles. We don’t put people in classes. Maybe middle income people. But the idea, somehow or another, that we’re going to buy into the class warfare arguments of Barack Obama is something that should not be part of the Republican lexicon. That’s their job. Divide. Separate. Put one group against another. That’s not the language I’ll use as president."
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Aug 5, 2014 15:49
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Man Rand Paul practically choked when that lady said she was a DREAMer.
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Aug 5, 2014 15:50
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Sir Tonk posted:"I suddenly have a meeting I must attend!" As usual, libertarians show their true cowardice when confronted by the people their policies effect. Yeah man, you totally showed those libtardarians. 
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Aug 5, 2014 15:54
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Sir Tonk posted:Is it free to play? What kind of things can I purchase with the in-app currency? Cadillacs.
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Sir Tonk posted:"I suddenly have a meeting I must attend!" As usual, libertarians show their true cowardice when confronted by the people their policies effect. This is SOP for any politician of any political stripe when confronted by a potentially unpleasant situation, so I don't fault Paul for it. It lets you exit semi-gracefully without saying "I don't want to talk to you," while doing it in a way that they can't really challenge (what, they going to say you don't have a meeting?)
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Kalman posted:This is SOP for any politician of any political stripe when confronted by a potentially unpleasant situation, so I don't fault Paul for it. It lets you exit semi-gracefully without saying "I don't want to talk to you," while doing it in a way that they can't really challenge (what, they going to say you don't have a meeting?) Yeah because otherwise you end up with 
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Kalman posted:This is SOP for any politician of any political stripe when confronted by a potentially unpleasant situation, so I don't fault Paul for it. It lets you exit semi-gracefully without saying "I don't want to talk to you," while doing it in a way that they can't really challenge (what, they going to say you don't have a meeting?) True, but you usually don't nearly choke mid-bite in your sandwich when someone says who they are then immediately hop up and split.
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Aug 5, 2014 16:12
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comes along bort posted:In which a couple immigrants meet a dipshit: I like how he keeps asking her if she understands English despite her talking to him in English. What a nice guy that Steve King is.
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Aug 5, 2014 16:12
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It seems Fox News, Breitbart, The Blaze have set their angle on immigrants not only being an economic menace but now a carrier of every virus and pest that exists. Is it being too optimistic in hoping that the actions from these people and the draconian immigration bill they tried to pass will backfire on them when it comes to not only the hispanic voting block but blocks from people who are disgusted by this behavior?
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Aug 5, 2014 16:16
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:It seems Fox News, Breitbart, The Blaze have set their angle on immigrants not only being an economic menace but now a carrier of every virus and pest that exists. Is it being too optimistic in hoping that the actions from these people and the draconian immigration bill they tried to pass will backfire on them when it comes to not only the hispanic voting block but blocks from people who are disgusted by this behavior? Put it this way - this is likely a major reason of why the Democrats have decent odds to keep the Senate.
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Aug 5, 2014 16:19
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It's only August. They have 3 more months to keep loving that chicken.
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computer parts posted:Put it this way - this is likely a major reason of why the Democrats have decent odds to keep the Senate. Nate Silver has the odds of Republicans flipping the Senate at 60%.
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Aug 5, 2014 16:22
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computer parts posted:Put it this way - this is likely a major reason of why the Democrats have decent odds to keep the Senate. Not that decent. It's looking worse by the day and that kind of blatant racism will probably help them pick up seats in the house.
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Aug 5, 2014 16:22
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Nate Silver has the odds of Republicans flipping the Senate at 60%. And if you actually read the article: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republican-gop-senate-forecast/ quote:Summing the probabilities of each race yields an estimate of 51 seats3 for Republicans. That makes them very slight favorites — perhaps somewhere in the neighborhood of 60-40 — to take control of the Senate, but also doesn’t leave them much room for error. This bottom line is not much changed from our forecasts in June or in March (or even the one we issued last July). If there's any upset on the R side that could well lose it all for them.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:It seems Fox News, Breitbart, The Blaze have set their angle on immigrants not only being an economic menace but now a carrier of every virus and pest that exists. Is it being too optimistic in hoping that the actions from these people and the draconian immigration bill they tried to pass will backfire on them when it comes to not only the hispanic voting block but blocks from people who are disgusted by this behavior? The conventional wisdom is that minorities don't turn out in the midterms, and blatant appeals to white nativism work to boost turnout among the traditional Republican constituency (the Sailer Strategy).
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Aug 5, 2014 16:31
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computer parts posted:And if you actually read the article: I thought that earlier he was saying there was something much higher, like 80 percent? Or was that a while back, and then Republicans did A Things?
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Aug 5, 2014 16:35
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A 2 star general was killed in an insider attack in Afghanistan this morning. Highest ranking death in the wars so far. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/0...&_r=0&referrer=
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SgtScruffy posted:I thought that earlier he was saying there was something much higher, like 80 percent? Or was that a while back, and then Republicans did A Things? That was the Monkey Cage model, which was based off fundamentals. And Upshot, based off polling, has had it in the low 50s for a while
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Aug 5, 2014 16:39
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Fried Chicken posted:A 2 star general was killed in an insider attack in Afghanistan this morning. When was the last time a US General was killed by an enemy? ACW?
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Aug 5, 2014 16:40
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zoux posted:When was the last time a US General was killed by an enemy? ACW? We lost four or five in Vietnam.
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Aug 5, 2014 16:44
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A Winner is Jew posted:Argo was a decent movie. But as others have said, it's only when the CIA fucks up that we actually know about what they do, and people always remember fuckups way longer than successes. When your "fuckups" include overthrowing the government of Iran and installing a puppet leading to the rise of Islamists, overthrowing the government of Guatemala and installing a brutal military dictatorship leading to a 30 year civil war, overthrowing the government of Brazil and installing a military dictatorship, overthrowing the government of Chile and installing a military dictatorship, attempting but failing to use brutal death squads to overthrow the government in Nicaragua, failing to anticipate the Iranian revolution against their own puppet, failing to anticipate the collapse of the Soviet Union despite the USSR being essentially the reason the CIA exists, torturing prisoners, performing covert experimentation on US citizens, and trafficking cocaine no amount of "well you just don't know about the good stuff" can compensate. The CIA is a fundamentally corrupt and dangerous organization and should be dissolved.
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Stultus Maximus posted:When your "fuckups" include overthrowing the government of Iran and installing a puppet leading to the rise of Islamists, *Saudi Arabia goes unnoticed*
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Maybe they have a secret suicide squad that's saved the world from Zombie Hitler twenty times you can't know for sure! Someone effectively made that argument to me during the NSA leak that there is secret stuff that we can't possibly know so we can't judge the intelligence agencies actions lest we all die in suitcase nuke explosions or super virus outbreaks that surely they are stopping every day. That wasn't hyperbole by the way, he used those examples.
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Aug 5, 2014 16:48
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Watching Steve King get completely pushed into a corner and challenging his anti-immigrant beliefs made my day
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Radish posted:Maybe they have a secret suicide squad that's saved the world from Zombie Hitler twenty times you can't know for sure! Or, like, terrorists flying planes into skyscrapers. I bet the CIA would find out about that sort of thing and stop it.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Or, like, terrorists flying planes into skyscrapers. I bet the CIA would find out about that sort of thing and stop it. That stupid 1947 security act prevented the proper agencies from working together. 
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Watching Steve King get completely pushed into a corner and challenging his anti-immigrant beliefs made my day He didn't back down though, he was just as much of a piece of poo poo to her face as he is on TV. Gotta respect that.
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zoux posted:When was the last time a US General was killed by an enemy? ACW? WW2 i believe. Killed during the breakout of the bochage by friendly bombers.
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pengun101 posted:WW2 i believe. Killed during the breakout of the bochage by friendly bombers. Enemy friendly bombers 
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zoux posted:Enemy friendly bombers Frenemy bombers are truly the worst.
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zoux posted:Enemy friendly bombers General Maurice Rose was killed by enemy action in 1945 and several admirals were killed the Pacific theater.
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I can't watch the video now, is it just Paul and King getting shown up or is there something especially terrible in there?
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zoux posted:Enemy friendly bombers Basically they dropped the bombs on the wrong positions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesley_J._McNair
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zoux posted:Enemy friendly bombers People freak out about friendly fire these days, but compared to how it was before omnipresent radio it's levels have been reduced so much it's amazing. Stultus Maximus posted:Or, like, terrorists flying planes into skyscrapers. I bet the CIA would find out about that sort of thing and stop it. Except they did have indications of an imminent attack, briefed the president on it, and Bush didn't give a poo poo. What were they supposed to do, take unilateral actions to run down leads and halt it anyways? That's the behavior you are decrying. That we have liberals bending over backwards ignoring proof to whitewash Bush because it's more convenient to blame the current target of their ire is one of the most stupefying things about the discourse under the Obama administration.
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The GOP's got a good shot at the Senate in 2014, but aren't the first wave of Tea Party Senators coming up en masse for reelection in 2016? That could be a bloodbath if the Democrats can- hahahaha, sorry! Forgot who I was talking about!
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Stultus Maximus posted:The CIA is a fundamentally corrupt and dangerous organization and should be dissolved. I completely agree with you.  I wasn't defending the CIA as a whole, I was mostly answering someone asking what good things the CIA has done. I think the current list is like 3 that we know about and a whole hell of a lot of monumental gently caress-ups so yeah, disband the gently caress out of them because they have proven themselves useless.
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Fried Chicken posted:That we have liberals bending over backwards ignoring proof to whitewash Bush because it's more convenient to blame the current target of their ire is one of the most stupefying things about the discourse under the Obama administration.
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