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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



relevant, from a support case i raised with netgear a few months ago:

quote:

Hi,

This is Brendan from Netgear Support.

I'd like to log in to the GUI of your ReadyNAS using the admin account.

Can you let me know the admin password please? Alternatively, I can reset it to default of 'password'

Many thanks.

Regards,

Brendan

this was after being forced to enable the "remote support" feature by level 2 support. im p sure that option is not enabled by default but if it is holy moley. from the level 2 support rep:

quote:

Hi cheese-cube,

You're welcome, thanks for the reply.

Enabling remote access will create a tunnel to our servers and we will directly be able to connect to the NAS via SSH. It is not like a webex/teamviewer session.

Regards,

Laurent

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sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

cheese-cube posted:

relevant, from a support case i raised with netgear a few months ago:


this was after being forced to enable the "remote support" feature by level 2 support. im p sure that option is not enabled by default but if it is holy moley. from the level 2 support rep:

To be generous, those devices are sold to people who don't know how to set up or admin a NAS and just want to turn it on and have it work. If you don't want to CJ your poo poo you gotta deal with this kind of bullshit.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
yeah, but they won't give you ssh access yourself. so you can't cj your own poo poo, you have to go through netgear.

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

Shaggar posted:

probably anime

https://soundcloud.com/shaliek/rappers-endorse-japanese

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



DNova posted:

To be generous, those devices are sold to people who don't know how to set up or admin a NAS and just want to turn it on and have it work. If you don't want to CJ your poo poo you gotta deal with this kind of bullshit.

yeah but the thing is...

anthonypants posted:

yeah, but they won't give you ssh access yourself. so you can't cj your own poo poo, you have to go through netgear.

you can enable SSH login for the device however by doing so you void the warranty (according to netgear)

edit: oh yeah i should probably point out that yeah, i know these are prosumer NAS devices which arent really targeted towards businesses however is it unacceptable to expect reasonable security without having to pay out the rear end for it?

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

anthonypants posted:

yeah, but they won't give you ssh access yourself. so you can't cj your own poo poo, you have to go through netgear.

I mean, you can just not buy garbage like that in the first place if that's a concern to you.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

give the obscene pricing of sinology's stuff you'd think they could afford windows embedded so they wouldn't have to deal w/ those kinds of problems.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Shaggar posted:

give the obscene pricing of sinology's stuff you'd think they could afford windows embedded so they wouldn't have to deal w/ those kinds of problems.

peak shaggar right here

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

cheese-cube posted:

yeah but the thing is...


you can enable SSH login for the device however by doing so you void the warranty (according to netgear)

edit: oh yeah i should probably point out that yeah, i know these are prosumer NAS devices which arent really targeted towards businesses however is it unacceptable to expect reasonable security without having to pay out the rear end for it?

the biggest threat to security is the user so netgear's policy is correct.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

the office's ds1813+ is apparently a dual core atom and you could install any of these things on it:
http://www.synology.com/en-us/dsm/app_packages

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

quote:

Download Station is a web-based download application which allows you to download files from the Internet through BT, FTP, HTTP, NZB, Thunder, FlashGet, QQDL, and eMule, and subscribe to RSS feeds to keep you updated on the hottest or latest BT. It offers the auto unzip service to help you extract compressed files to your Synology DiskStation whenever files are downloaded. With Download Station, you can download files from multiple file hosting sites, and search for torrent files via system default search engines as well as self-added engines with the BT search function.

welp that sure is a product with lots of legitimate non piracy related uses such as
:ins:

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

its ok though i'll start the wiki

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



ill start the wordpress blog, phpbb forum, openerp db and bind server

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

hobbesmaster posted:

welp that sure is a product with lots of legitimate non piracy related uses such as
:ins:

ah yes flashget, because it's still 2003 and we're all still shotgunning disparate modems together and need to split download jobs into mutliple parts for multiple lines

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

hobbesmaster posted:

welp that sure is a product with lots of legitimate non piracy related uses such as
:ins:

idk what any of those are but i can definitely tell you that it owns for piracy.

lol forever at idiots who pay for content

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

Tiny Bug Child posted:

idk what any of those are but i can definitely tell you that it owns for piracy.

lol forever at idiots who pay for content

- a person that profits from idiots paying money for content

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

he's lolling forever all the way to the bank m8

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

imo just lol forever maekes life simpler

Arcsech
Aug 5, 2008

tbc has called his users idiots before, many times

given what he does i cant really fault him tho

(tbc works for a pay porn site that makes its revenue mainly from people who sign up and then forget theyre subscribed)

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

Arcsech posted:

tbc has called his users idiots before, many times

given what he does i cant really fault him tho

(tbc works for a pay porn site that makes its revenue mainly from people who sign up and then forget theyre subscribed)

I'm not dissing him, I think he's in a better position than most of us to make a comment like that. From his point of view, most of the people that pay for content are, in fact, idiots.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
so are there any decent NAS RAID thingies? synology sounds bad.

or do i have to buy a lian-li case and learn BSD

cheese-cube posted:

relevant, from a support case i raised with netgear a few months ago:


this was after being forced to enable the "remote support" feature by level 2 support. im p sure that option is not enabled by default but if it is holy moley. from the level 2 support rep:

lol if u didnt do this + packet capture the session

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

synology is fine so long as you don't open it to the internet to run bitorrent or whatever the gently caress

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

in before shaggar says windows storage server

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXOucXB4a8

video on recovering speech using high-speed cameras recording shiny surfaces

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

cheese-cube posted:

is it unacceptable to expect reasonable security without having to pay out the rear end for it?

it is

drives are cheap, storage is expensive

My PIN is 4826
Aug 30, 2003

vOv posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXOucXB4a8

video on recovering speech using high-speed cameras recording shiny surfaces

welp. guess you're not even safe if you're wearing a tinfoil hat now

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

vOv posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXOucXB4a8

video on recovering speech using high-speed cameras recording shiny surfaces
you can do this with a laser and it's probably way easier

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

hobbesmaster posted:

the office's ds1813+ is apparently a dual core atom and you could install any of these things on it:
http://www.synology.com/en-us/dsm/app_packages

also these assuming x86 builds are being included: https://synocommunity.com/packages

i have a ds413 its p good for :filez:

e: i dont have any open ports to it and keep it relatively up to date (eg 5.x has been out a few months now jeez)

Progressive JPEG fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Aug 5, 2014

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

vOv posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXOucXB4a8

video on recovering speech using high-speed cameras recording shiny surfaces

makes me think about how there have been suggestions that audio could be extracted from claypots made a millenia or longer ago

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



anthonypants posted:

you can do this with a laser and it's probably way easier
laser microphones aren't new

nice approach, especially cool that they show it working through a consumer camera. someone mention when the code goes live, this has interesting applications in hiding data

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

I have a Synology and use it as a seed box/media server for all my British TV. You can get python 2 and 3 for it so it's been fun to tinker with setting up a "randomly choose something to watch" mechanism.

(I miss you, thebox/ZXCV)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

anthonypants posted:

you can do this with a laser and it's probably way easier

also with a properly-shaped bit of metal and a microwave

(yet another spy catcher reference but one of peter wrights many little achievements was working out how the soviets were bugging the us ambassador in moscow's office - turns out that a large carved seal of the united states, presented to him by the russian boy scouts, was carved to be a good acoustic conductor and the metal bracket holding it up could be read from across the street using a microwave beam)

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
that's awesome

gotta read that next

karoshi
Nov 4, 2008

"Can somebody mspaint eyes on the steaming packages? TIA" yeah well fuck you too buddy, this is the best you're gonna get. Is this even "work-safe"? Let's find out!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

also with a properly-shaped bit of metal and a microwave

(yet another spy catcher reference but one of peter wrights many little achievements was working out how the soviets were bugging the us ambassador in moscow's office - turns out that a large carved seal of the united states, presented to him by the russian boy scouts, was carved to be a good acoustic conductor and the metal bracket holding it up could be read from across the street using a microwave beam)

Didn't the NSA weekend supermarket pamphlet leaked include a similar thingy? (But with a FET so not exactly hidden)

Linguica
Jul 13, 2000
You're already dead

OSI bean dip posted:

makes me think about how there have been suggestions that audio could be extracted from claypots made a millenia or longer ago
wasnt that a hoax

e: yep http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/ancient_pottery_recorded_audio

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

hobbesmaster posted:

synology is fine so long as you don't open it to the internet to run bitorrent or whatever the gently caress

this. they don't come with personal butt/cloud activated by default


this all explains this cryptic email from synology to upgrade to a new version (I've never received such an email from them before). No word of ransomware

quote:

Improvements
* Improved the stability of volume expansion.

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
btw, who is Chase Schultz ‏@f47h3r_B0 ? he seems like a monkeycheese turd based on his twitter

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

that is disappointing

computer toucher
Jan 8, 2012


this was my first thought too.

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computer toucher
Jan 8, 2012

atomicthumbs posted:

so are there any decent NAS RAID thingies? synology sounds bad.

or do i have to buy a lian-li case and learn BSD


lol if u didnt do this + packet capture the session

packet capturing an ssh session for fun and profit!

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