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Dan Didio posted:They'd better kill Vision off. There's no way I'm suffering through two movies starring that loving waste of space. I love when you post stuff like this because I imagine it's the real Dan Didio gettin' mad and postin' on the internet about Marvel funnybooks.
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I bet someone is dying in AoU. That's not to say it's going to be permanent, but it's going to happen.
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Aug 6, 2014 09:24
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I don't see how they can do another major character death and then roll it back and expect to get away with it after that horseshit with Coulson.
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Aug 6, 2014 09:25
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Dan Didio posted:I don't see how they can do another major character death and then roll it back and expect to get away with it after that horseshit with Coulson. Groot in Guardians? Actually there are a lot of them
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Aug 6, 2014 09:27
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Waterhaul posted:Groot in Guardians? Pretty much every example in those films is set-up, executed and resolved within the film, even within the single set-piece or scene. The only one I'd really consider on the same level is Fury in Cap 2 and that's mostly because, as I've already posted about, I think he should have stayed dead. I guess Bucky, but that comes with the territory. And it's more specifically dealing with the context in which they used Coulson's death, and their reasons for revoking it. It really cheapens the Avengers in hindsight, which is not necessarily a bad thing in a narrative sense, or a thematic one, but it's far too cynical a moment for them to repeat it in earnest and think it will resonate in a non-cynical way.
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Aug 6, 2014 09:32
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It'd be really funny if they made the death in Avengers 2 really really explicit and graphic to drive home that "this time it's for real guys, honest!" I'm talking looney Tunes here, Haweye gets squashed by an anvil, a piano and a horse, and just as Black Widow is holding him in her arms for the Touching Death Scene a steamroller approaches and runs him over for good measure.
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Aug 6, 2014 09:42
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The MSJ posted:Well who else will Wanda have romance scenes with? Quicksilver. They're going full Jeph Loeb with this.
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Aug 6, 2014 09:48
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Timeless Appeal posted:It's just hard to imagine them incorporating the stuff that makes Hawkeye interesting. The primary thing for me is that, early Hawkeye was this guy who both resented and idolized Captain America. I think it defines Hawkeye's insecurity that you still see in Fraction's run. He is someone who is so self-reliant that he both despises Rogers as an authority figure and wishes that he could will himself to be the man. Then you have the fact that he's such a gently caress-up. He ran with villains and was mistaken as one. I think there is this sense of not-belonging inherent to the character. I'd like to propose that he's less a spy and more a soldier. Something I've felt for a while is that they could do some of this in the films, present a notion that Clint was a person that was just shy of crossing that threshold into Captain America. But he's only got the aim, the military background and the senses of Cap, but not the gymnastics, character or the strength. He's almost a super-soldier, but not quite. Now that Cap's back, it's more complicated. He's no longer excuse his 'failure' due to being held to the exaggerated standards of a mythical long-missing legend, but a figure who's alive and living up to the legend.
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Aug 6, 2014 09:52
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It makes the most 'sense' for Hawkeye to die because he has had the least amount of character development of any member of the Avengers. Not to mention with 3 new members being added, having one less makes the movie seem less overcrowded. Also what the gently caress is a guy with arrows going to do against Thanos
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Aug 6, 2014 11:54
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Away all Goats posted:Also what the gently caress is a guy with arrows going to do against Thanos The same thing everyone else does?
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Aug 6, 2014 11:57
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It's not really as if an Anti-Thanos arrow you be more dumb than the "hacking" arrow in Avengers.
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Aug 6, 2014 12:00
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Away all Goats posted:It makes the most 'sense' for Hawkeye to die because he has had the least amount of character development of any member of the Avengers. Not to mention with 3 new members being added, having one less makes the movie seem less overcrowded. At the same time, that is what lessens the impact and makes incredible predictable.
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Aug 6, 2014 12:10
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Come on its obvious. Wonderman will be in the opening stinger and die before the credits. Because that is what Wonderman does.
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Aug 6, 2014 12:58
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They're gonna kill Coulson again and then Uatu shows up to be all "No guys for realsies" and then Fury kills him too.
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Aug 6, 2014 13:46
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Waterhaul posted:It's not really as if an Anti-Thanos arrow you be more dumb than the "hacking" arrow in Avengers. Arrow with a USB connector, puts virus poo poo into computer, makes sense to me??? 
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Aug 6, 2014 13:49
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Hakkesshu posted:Arrow with a USB connector, puts virus poo poo into computer, makes sense to me??? I was getting things mixed up in my head. I meant the dumb Hawkeye shoots an explosion arrow from a plane and blows up a chunk of the helicarrier.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:05
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You know I always thought that bad guy Hawkeye in the Avengers was a nod to his origins where he was a bad guy at first. Also finally saw Guardians last night. One thing I liked that I haven't seemed a lot of people comment on was at the end where Drax reaches over and starts to pet Rocket. I thought it was really sweet. The best part of the CD thread is the bitter argument about when Rocket goes "Boo Hoo my wife and kids are dead", people thinking that Rocket means he also had a wife and kids and is suddenly revealing that fact to Groot in that exact moment and that's why Groot gasps. zoux fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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Aug 6, 2014 14:07
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Doesn't he passingly mention he used to be in the circus? Or am I getting that mixed up with Earth's Mightiest Heroes? I really didn't like Black Widow in either IM2 or Avengers but thought she was great in Cap 2. So I think MCU Hawkeye needs a similar role like Widow had in Cap 2 to build his character. But I don't know if Whedon or whoever is scripting Avengers 2 can work the same magic and develop several new characters and a pretty big villain all at the same time.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:08
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Waterhaul posted:I was getting things mixed up in my head. I meant the dumb Hawkeye shoots an explosion arrow from a plane and blows up a chunk of the helicarrier. He shoots it into the turbine, doesn't he?
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Aug 6, 2014 14:13
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People saying Renner is a bad actor are like people who STILL think Channing Tatum is a bad actor. Take your head outta your butt and watch some movies that aren't about dudes in tights hitting each other. We should all be grateful that a dumb-butt weak-rear end character like Gambit will be played by an actor of Tatum's caliber.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:13
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Unmature posted:People saying Renner is a bad actor are like people who STILL think Channing Tatum is a bad actor. Take your head outta your butt and watch some movies that aren't about dudes in tights hitting each other. If they do that they won't see Channing Tatum's better roles.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:14
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Every single one of the leads in American Hustle plays a comic book character now.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:16
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Aphrodite posted:He shoots it into the turbine, doesn't he? He's on a plane. Like with guns on it and poo poo
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Aug 6, 2014 14:17
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Bulging Nipples posted:He's on a plane. Like with guns on it and poo poo I don't think you get Hawkeye.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:19
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Bulging Nipples posted:He's on a plane. Like with guns on it and poo poo I think the plane deviating from the flightplan moving into position where it can fire upon one of the turbines might have triggered some warning or defences. Whereas an arrow probably wouldn't have come up on any countermeasures. I mean, it was still a stupid thing, but I can kind of see how it works.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:30
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Sly Deaths Head posted:This is actually why I find the Age of Ultron group movie poster to be very interesting. Hawkeye's the only one who looks visibly overwhelmed and his arrows seem to be doing very little. It feels very far from the one-note badass people seem to painting movie Hawkeye to be. I hope it's a hint to the character in the film. It's also worth pointing out the character that movie Hawkeye is supposedly interchangeable with (Black Widow) meanwhile probably looks more heroic then ever as she zaps robots with what looks like an even more superhero-ey costume. This just makes me think of the Last Avengers Story where after a while, Ultron became a big pushover because all Hawkeye had to do was hit him with an EM disruptor arrow to take him out. That led to one of the few cool concepts of the book: Ultron had gotten thrashed by the Avengers so many times that he accepted that maybe humans were in fact superior. Then he changed his design to looking like a bald man with ink-black skin because who's better at killing humans than another human?
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Aug 6, 2014 14:31
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Waterhaul posted:It's not really as if an Anti-Thanos arrow you be more dumb than the "hacking" arrow in Avengers. Depending on the director we will either get an arrow that Thanos catches singing 80s tunes as a distraction or one that makes snappy quips voiced by Sarah Michelle Gellar.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:32
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Kind of late to this, but Renner was hilarious in National Lampoon's Senior Trip. If I remember correctly.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:33
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Renner w as great in that one movie with Bale and Cooper and Adams. And Lawrence. Movie sucked though.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:38
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He would shoot a flare arrow at Thanos, with Ant-Man secretly riding it, who would ride a photon through Thanos shield, and go into his brain through his eyes and lobotomize him.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:51
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zoux posted:The best part of the CD thread is the bitter argument about when Rocket goes "Boo Hoo my wife and kids are dead", people thinking that Rocket means he also had a wife and kids and is suddenly revealing that fact to Groot in that exact moment and that's why Groot gasps. Goons failing to grasp basic humor will always be hilarious.
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Aug 6, 2014 14:59
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Hakkesshu posted:Arrow with a USB connector, puts virus poo poo into computer, makes sense to me??? I was hoping he would shoot it, have it bounce off and him having to walk up and plug it in because it's upside down
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Aug 6, 2014 15:14
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zoux posted:Every single one of the leads in American Hustle plays a comic book character now. Louis CK for Dr. Strange!
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Aug 6, 2014 15:36
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Sumo posted:Louis CK for Dr. Strange! That would own. So GotG crossed the $100m domestic threshold and also set a bunch of Monday records which I dunno what that means! Maybe people going to see it again, maybe people who only had sold out shows over the weekend (like me) or word or mouth making people want to see it? Or nothing at all!
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Aug 6, 2014 15:49
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Sumo posted:Louis CK for Dr. Strange! John Waters. I'm telling ya. Or kinda Willem DaFoe....maybe Peter Stormare for fun. Go a bit out of box.
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Aug 6, 2014 16:08
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Waterhaul posted:Groot in Guardians? To be fair, in Thor, did anyone even for a moment think Loki was really dead? After he JUST faked severing Thor's arm
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Aug 6, 2014 16:14
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zoux posted:That would own. Gatts posted:John Waters. I'm telling ya.
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Aug 6, 2014 16:19
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notthegoatseguy posted:I really didn't like Black Widow in either IM2 or Avengers but thought she was great in Cap 2. So I think MCU Hawkeye needs a similar role like Widow had in Cap 2 to build his character. But I don't know if Whedon or whoever is scripting Avengers 2 can work the same magic and develop several new characters and a pretty big villain all at the same time. Put Hawkeye in Doctor Strange. 
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Aug 6, 2014 16:28
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A Tin Of Beans posted:Put Hawkeye in Doctor Strange. Finally, someone who has read my Hawleye x Dr. Strange fanfiction!
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A Tin Of Beans posted:Put Hawkeye in Doctor Strange. So he can beat Shuma Gorath with a net arrow.
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