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Mantis42 posted:You know, the duck tits are only on screen half a second, don't let that ruin the best Marvel and George Lucas movie for you. It was more the scene with an 8 foot long tentacle claw extending from John Lithgows mouth for me.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 05:15 |
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My mom loved the track listing for the soundtrack. My mistake was telling her the explanation for the Awesome Mix in the movie. She's the sensitive type, but I still don't like making my mom, a cancer survivor, cry. For a funny sci-fi movie, it has an enormous amount of heart. When's the last time a movie felt so joyful?
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 05:16 |
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Conal Cochran posted:There was no reason for Thanos to be in this movie other than to tie it into whatever future movie Marvel had planned. It honestly seemed more like it he was there to set up why Gamora was there and setting up the Gamora/Nebula conflict. I could actually see them using GotG 2 as a full on prologue to Infinity Gauntlet before moving on to Avengers proper. Make it all about Thanos going after Gamora or something and you can get more of Thanos' backstory along the way.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 05:35 |
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Conal Cochran posted:There was no reason for Thanos to be in this movie other than to tie it into whatever future movie Marvel had planned. If we're just remarking on a character being pointless rather than the entire movie being pointless, then I'm content to call it progress and move on.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 05:37 |
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Thanos ruled. "The only thing that I do not take seriously is you."
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 06:03 |
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Dogeatdog posted:It honestly seemed more like it he was there to set up why Gamora was there and setting up the Gamora/Nebula conflict. You can easily do that with an absent father figure though. That's how Avatar: The Last Airbender did it with Zuko & Azula. If that was what they were going for it was hammy as hell. Thanos: "I lent my favorite daughter to you.." *cut to Nebula, practically ing at the mention of Gamora*
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 06:18 |
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I was pretty pumped to see Thanos in the movie, since it wasn't announced beforehand and I wasn't expecting it at all.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 06:21 |
Officer Farva posted:I was pretty pumped to see Thanos in the movie, since it wasn't announced beforehand and I wasn't expecting it at all. They announced he was in it and Josh Brolin was playing him months ago.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 06:41 |
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Die Laughing posted:My mom loved the track listing for the soundtrack. My mistake was telling her the explanation for the Awesome Mix in the movie. She's the sensitive type, but I still don't like making my mom, a cancer survivor, cry. Make it up to her, the Mixtape is available for purchase quite cheap and it is a really really good tracklist.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 07:30 |
So I've watched it twice, once on an actual IMAX screen in 3D, once on a 70' 4k screen. The mining craft chase in Knowhere and the big sequence at the end only made sense in 3D. poo poo was impossible to follow otherwise.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 07:55 |
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I think Drax and Gamora both needed a similar 5 minute "_____-years ago" introduction about their defining moments origins that Quill got at the start of the film. It's sort of the first Marvel movie where almost no characters get a real deep origin story or isn't full of characters that have already dedicated film origin stories for them. I know we're told repeatedly, "Ronan killed Drax's family, Gamora wants to escape Thanos", and that's fine. However, I still would have liked to have seen those events as a counterpoint/compliment to Quill's own to sort of give us an honest look of the sort of people they were before and during their traumas and maybe better understand how changed their respective life-changing events really made them. Rocket and Groot, not so much, though, because they seem like characters that are sort of detached from the whole revenge angle of everyone else.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 08:11 |
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Just watched this. It is so good that I don't even consider it a Marvel film.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 08:13 |
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Yeah also just got home from the movie and hell yea that was a fun flick. Is there some sort of "best nonstandard use of music" award this can win or something because drat. Also wow how weird is it that 1) Disney owns this and 2) let someone with a Troma history make this and 3) it owned?
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 08:38 |
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I don't understand people complaining that Thanos was here. Did they get mad at Coulson and Fury and Widow in Iron Man 2? Or Fury in Cap 1? Heck, Batroc and Crossbones shouldn't have been in Cap 2 if they're just setting up another movie! drat them for trying to set up future movies in any way shape or form, the terrible people they are at Marvel. These people just want to suck the joy out of everything.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 09:16 |
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Seedge posted:I don't understand people complaining that Thanos was here. Did they get mad at Coulson and Fury and Widow in Iron Man 2? Or Fury in Cap 1? Heck, Batroc and Crossbones shouldn't have been in Cap 2 if they're just setting up another movie! drat them for trying to set up future movies in any way shape or form, the terrible people they are at Marvel. A lot of people actually do think IM2 was mediocre-to-crap and place a lot of the blame on a large chunk of the film being used for Avengers foreshadowing. I'm not one of them, although I have only seen it once. I just got the Phase One briefcase set today though, so I'll be doing a marathon soon.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 09:19 |
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Seedge posted:I don't understand people complaining that Thanos was here. No, you don't.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 09:27 |
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Die Laughing posted:My mom loved the track listing for the soundtrack. My mistake was telling her the explanation for the Awesome Mix in the movie. She's the sensitive type, but I still don't like making my mom, a cancer survivor, cry. I was able to convince my mom to see this movie but maybe only because I was really stoked by it. She has only before been dragged to the recent Batman films, which I think are great but are also a bit grim. I told her it was a brighter movie and that "ooga chaka" was on it. She loves "Hooked on a Feeling", apparently. My dad is a skin cancer survivor, which connects less obviously with the opening scene, but he wanted to go anyway and I was the one to convince her. I think it might make her misty, but for movie reasons. She said she has never heard me as excited for a movie since I saw the first Men in Black, but she also likes Blue Swede so we might both be beyond repair. (I also want to add a I was very young when Men in Black came out).
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 10:25 |
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BreakAtmo posted:A lot of people actually do think IM2 was mediocre-to-crap and place a lot of the blame on a large chunk of the film being used for Avengers foreshadowing. I'm not one of them, although I have only seen it once. I just got the Phase One briefcase set today though, so I'll be doing a marathon soon. I'm one of them. I mean IM2 has other problems that are arguably larger, but the fact that it's mostly just set-up for something else really hampers it. It was also the source of tension between Faverau and Marvel, who wanted those scenes in after the script was written and it's why Rourke suffers and seems to vanish for most of the movie.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 10:44 |
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Thanos was great to have just to show how more powerful Ronan considered himself with the stone. Thanos also took up probably less than 3 minutes of screen time so shut up you babies.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 12:34 |
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JediTalentAgent posted:I think Drax and Gamora both needed a similar 5 minute "_____-years ago" introduction about their defining moments origins that Quill got at the start of the film. It's sort of the first Marvel movie where almost no characters get a real deep origin story or isn't full of characters that have already dedicated film origin stories for them. Eh, I liked that it didn't go too far into backstories. If there was one thing that I would change at all about this movie is that at the end they had a scene with Nova Corps saying Quill was only half human, and Space Merle saying that it was a good thing they didn't bring him to his father. Both scenes conveyed the same thing, really, and I would have liked it better with "now that guy was a real a-hole" as foreshadowing.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 12:48 |
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The Dave posted:Thanos was great to have just to show how more powerful Ronan considered himself with the stone. Thanos also took up probably less than 3 minutes of screen time so shut up you babies. He also added to our view of Ronan's character by showing his duplicity. Without Thanos, Ronan would just have found the gem and then tried to use it on Xandar - seeing him make a deal with Thanos and then breaking it once he thought he had the upper hand shows us more about him.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 12:54 |
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Iron Crowned posted:Eh, I liked that it didn't go too far into backstories. Both scenes have slightly different purposes. The Nova Corps scene lets Quill himself know that he's half alien, while the other one lets the audience in on the secret that Quill's dad actually sent for him when his mother died. It overlaps, sure, but I can't see any other way of achieving both those things with one conversation.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 13:03 |
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Junkenstein posted:Both scenes have slightly different purposes. The Nova Corps scene lets Quill himself know that he's half alien, while the other one lets the audience in on the secret that Quill's dad actually sent for him when his mother died. It overlaps, sure, but I can't see any other way of achieving both those things with one conversation. "Good job we didn't take him to his alien dad."
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 13:07 |
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Junkenstein posted:Both scenes have slightly different purposes. The Nova Corps scene lets Quill himself know that he's half alien, while the other one lets the audience in on the secret that Quill's dad actually sent for him when his mother died. It overlaps, sure, but I can't see any other way of achieving both those things with one conversation. You're not really wrong, but it's not something Quill needs to know until the next movie
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 13:09 |
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Junkenstein posted:Both scenes have slightly different purposes. The Nova Corps scene lets Quill himself know that he's half alien, while the other one lets the audience in on the secret that Quill's dad actually sent for him when his mother died. It overlaps, sure, but I can't see any other way of achieving both those things with one conversation. The Nova Corps scene also tells us that Quill's father is something 'ancient' and special which the Yondu scene does not.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 13:19 |
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It also gives a question people are looking to find out more about in the sequel.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 13:24 |
Yondu's crew calls Quill's dad "a real jackass", FWIW.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 13:45 |
There have been a lot of comparisons to Star Wars in this thread (rightfully so), but one that people have been making that has confused me is saying that Ronan the Accuser was Darth Vader, and even one person saying they were sad that they Darth Mauled the character by killing him off. I think that's making the wrong comparison. I mean, I guess he kind of resembles Vader in appearance, but Ronan's character isn't the one who's Darth Vader. Ronan is Tarkin. Nebula is Darth Vader. Tarkin/Ronan is actuality the real villain of Star Wars/GotG. He's the one in control of the super weapon of the movie. He goes down with his ship. Vader/Nebula is more machine than human at this point. He/she is working with Tarkin/Ronan, but really works for the higher up villain, Palpatine/Thanos. Near the end, Vader/Nebula even has a lightsaber/sword fight with someone they have a history with (though here, that person gets to live), and in the end, flies away to live to fight another day. It's not a perfect comparison, I know. Gamora isn't really Obi-Wan at all, and gets to live. And I'm in no way saying Nebula will end up being Starlord's mother (though she does vaguely resemble his mom, what with being as bald as his mom was due to the cancer treatment). But also mixing in a comment James Gunn made in The Empire podcast interview, that he doesn't really believe Nebula is all bad, and the fact that she clearly hates Thanos and what he's turned her into, I'm assuming she'll be redeeming herself at some point in the future, and in Avengers 3 may even be the person who kills Thanos. Not sure the spoiler policy on GotG, so I'll just play it safe. Not that you guys don't know what happens in Star Wars or anything.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 14:08 |
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I just started reading Annihalation. This is the first time I've read a book with Ronan in it and man...I like him a lot so far just three issues in. I liked his movie version but so far I wish they hadn't killed his character some how in the movie.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 14:51 |
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Tommy 2.0 posted:I just started reading Annihalation. This is the first time I've read a book with Ronan in it and man...I like him a lot so far just three issues in. I liked his movie version but so far I wish they hadn't killed his character some how in the movie. Eh, I don't think it matters, there is no way we would ever gotten enough movies to get his character close to like he is in the comics.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 14:54 |
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e X posted:Eh, I don't think it matters, there is no way we would ever gotten enough movies to get his character close to like he is in the comics. Yeah it took a while for Ronan to get fully fleshed out and not just be generic space bad guy vs. the FF. Here's him in his first appearance in FF #65 in 1967.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 15:30 |
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How the gently caress did James Gunn get to direct this film? I mean he only really directed two films. One a cheap horror film that still bombed and the other a very small niche indie film. That's it. How do you go from working with a budget of 15 million to more than ten times that? BreakAtmo posted:A lot of people actually do think IM2 was mediocre-to-crap and place a lot of the blame on a large chunk of the film being used for Avengers foreshadowing. I'm not one of them, although I have only seen it once. I just got the Phase One briefcase set today though, so I'll be doing a marathon soon. Iron Man 2 was more or less as good as the first one. I never got the hate.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 15:56 |
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Another thing I noticed on second viewing was that they totally tell you about the whole "eh gently caress his dad" thing right at the start of the movie as well. When Yondu's on Morag and his lacky calls him out for being soft, he says something to the effect of "we were supposed to pick up that boy and deliver him." There's lots of little things to miss in this movie, like the aforementioned bath of blood.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 15:59 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:How the gently caress did James Gunn get to direct this film? Sometimes you just take a chance on a director. I mean the Godzilla guy had basically the same resume too. quote:Iron Man 2 was more or less as good as the first one. I never got the hate. They really chickened out on the main plot because of the whole "Hey the bad guy says that your father stole from him and made him out to be anything but a literal Walt Disney caricature...turns out he was wrong and your dad is still a swell guy!" thing. I mean it's even funnier because you go to Captain America and it turns out his dad was just as much of a jackass as Stark was and could realistically have actually stolen that work.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 16:00 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:How the gently caress did James Gunn get to direct this film? Gunn's not the only one. Godzilla was directed by Gareth Edwards whose previous movie was the low-budget scifi Monster. His next movie is Star Wars. Marc Webb directed (500) Days of Summer before given The Amazing Spider-Man. Captain America 2 was by the Russo brothers whose most famous cinematic effort before this was You, Me and Dupree (but they also directed episodes of Community that were good). Next year we will get Josh Trank's Fantastic Four and Colin Trevorrow's Jurassic World.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 16:04 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:How the gently caress did James Gunn get to direct this film? Take a look at these guys resume http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo_brothers
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 16:13 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Take a look at these guys resume Marvel hires directors that they can easily control.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 16:43 |
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My hope that the second one carries on the soundtrack choices because it has one of the best soundtracks for any movie I have recently seen and would love an Awesome Mix Vol 2
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 16:48 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:My hope that the second one carries on the soundtrack choices because it has one of the best soundtracks for any movie I have recently seen and would love an Awesome Mix Vol 2 I can guarantee this. I would not be surprised if his dad has volume 3.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 16:50 |
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Tommy 2.0 posted:I just started reading Annihalation. This is the first time I've read a book with Ronan in it and man...I like him a lot so far just three issues in. I liked his movie version but so far I wish they hadn't killed his character some how in the movie. The movie does, however, establish a pretty strong 'revenge my father, my father's father, etc.' tone from the character. I figured if they want to bring the character back with a tone more like his comic incarnations lately, just introduce a son of the character with the same name who maybe isn't as irredeemable a prick, but who has changed his family's target from Xandar to the Guardians or something .
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