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ceebee posted:^This This is so darn true. When I was in high school I was so darn desperate to be seen as cool. I would lie pathologically about EVERYTHING. Its a wonder I had any friends at all. Now I'm grown up and I'm living my dream and I am terribly embarrassed at how I felt that I needed to act that way. People grow up and sometimes they grow up into the thing they were lying about in the first place.
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Shoutouts to being grown up and successful but still being an awful mess of a human who still has all their psychological hangups from middle school.
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Brackhar posted:Yeah, my company photo had me wearing a fake mustache. Props are really common. I directed a series of kickstarter videos that never saw the light of day (thankfully- the kickstarter was garbage). The props I gave to people were a variety of increasingly elaborate cookies on a plate. We started with the humble digestive and ended out at empire biscuits by way of pink fancies. That was the best expenses form I've ever filled out.
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Aug 1, 2014 00:06
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androo posted:Hey gamedev goons, This guy wearing an unfashionable hat is markedly less goony that some idiot strolling in to a gathering of his industry mates and going "hey this guy is such a nerd he doesn't really have this job, right?" Really, really take a good hard look at your life, his life, and the reasoning behind your behavior here. The lovely friend full of poo poo is probably not the one publicly trying to dig up dirt on the other's legitimate job. Seems like this guy paid his dues in QA and then got a design job on a large title, so congratulations to him. Hopefully he's got better friends than you.
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Old Doggy Bastard posted:Thom sounds like a man who values his job and respects the power of an NDA. I don't know anything more about him but from these posts he sounds like he is mature or has matured enough to understand being a professional. 2nd degree here as well but shouldn't that be everyone in the industry in your country, with the rest of the world at 3rd? 
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Hughlander posted:2nd degree here as well but shouldn't that be everyone in the industry in your country, with the rest of the world at 3rd? Yeah, I got him 2nd degree too, because I'm connected with Robin Linn, so everyone in the video game and animation industries are 2nd degree connections.
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3rd here.  dudes probably wondering why he suddenly has a bunch of profile views.
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Mega Shark posted:This is so darn true. When I was in high school I was so darn desperate to be seen as cool. I would lie pathologically about EVERYTHING. Its a wonder I had any friends at all. Now I'm grown up and I'm living my dream and I am terribly embarrassed at how I felt that I needed to act that way. People grow up and sometimes they grow up into the thing they were lying about in the first place. This is me. Pretty sure that if I ever met anyone from high-school again they'd think I was still lying my rear end off, and honestly couldn't blame 'em.
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mutata posted:Yeah, I got him 2nd degree too, because I'm connected with Robin Linn, so everyone in the video game and animation industries are 2nd degree connections. I really hope Androo did some basic separation between his forums account and his real account, since it seems any one of us could easily contact good ol' Thom. Good job, Androo. EDIT: I've never even looked at making an account on github or stackoverflow. Closest I come to github is bitbucket, I guess? Shalinor fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Aug 1, 2014 05:03
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Do game programmers use github and stackoverflow much? I thought they were mainly used by web and open source developers. But I am also an old C++ boxed software/game programmer and probably behind the times.
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DancingMachine posted:Do game programmers use github and stackoverflow much? I thought they were mainly used by web and open source developers. But I am also an old C++ boxed software/game programmer and probably behind the times. stackoverflow is good at answering programming questions I google but I have seen no reason to ever actually sign up? That guy's whole thing was really passive aggressive and weird.
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Aug 1, 2014 05:21
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What's worse, androo's post or traffic on the 91?
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Aug 1, 2014 06:26
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Wal-mart parking lots have better throughput than the 91
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Aug 1, 2014 07:47
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What about the Wal-Mart on Anaheim Blvd. Off the 91.
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Studio posted:What about the Wal-Mart on Anaheim Blvd. Off the 91. Non-euclidian road layouts are hardly a fair test case.
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DancingMachine posted:Do game programmers use github and stackoverflow much? I thought they were mainly used by web and open source developers. But I am also an old C++ boxed software/game programmer and probably behind the times. Public profiles on github? I doubt many do (though we've open-sourced a bunch of our stuff in various degrees of maintenance), but I'd imagine most of the "new wave" have accounts/projects hosted there privately.
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Aug 1, 2014 11:12
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Hughlander posted:2nd degree here as well but shouldn't that be everyone in the industry in your country, with the rest of the world at 3rd? Actually I just checked and I'm only a 3rd degree which makes sense given that I work with traditional games mostly but have co-workers who did work relating to the gaming industry. Thom is basically my best friend is what I'm getting at. Super close, practically besties.
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Dumb question, but I noticed Unity says you're allowed to use their assets for anything. Would it reflect badly on me as a designer if I used their assets on my portfolio (giving due credit, of course) instead of attempting to make my own?
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demota posted:Dumb question, but I noticed Unity says you're allowed to use their assets for anything. Would it reflect badly on me as a designer if I used their assets on my portfolio (giving due credit, of course) instead of attempting to make my own? ... but DO try and have a few projects of sufficiently scope in there that they do include working with an artist. Not for the "reflect badly on you" bit, just because showing experience working with a team is huge.
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xgalaxy posted:If being a gamedev requires me to have active github and stackoverflow accounts then gently caress my life. Yeah, I've never seen these matter.
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Pixelboy posted:Yeah, I've never seen these matter. If interns have them and use them it does make them stand out a little from the rest of the crowd. For any full time hire? Doesn't really matter.
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BrainBot posted:If interns have them and use them it does make them stand out a little from the rest of the crowd. For any full time hire? Doesn't really matter. Yeah, I can agree to that statement.
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androo posted:Hey gamedev goons, Will confirm that is his job, that he's a pretty decent DM, and also you're being an rear end.
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Aug 5, 2014 08:00
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As I sit here cleaning up some mess in GIT wherein a member of my team managed to stealth a changelist in that, somehow, caused a time warp that effectively nulled all my work and caused me to have to rewind time and manually copy-paste files to present as overwrites in a new commit, and even THEN I can't tell if everyone else's work got through, I can only verify mine... I'm starting to question how the hell anyone can use GIT, ever, at scale. How does poo poo like this not take your studio down constantly? (that said, the person who broke it was a non-technical artist, I think, and it apparently involved a crash during a commit which he then decided to revert... so the answer here might just be "and this is the secret reason why you don't let artists touch git", no idea) EDIT: The huge, mega, super bummer is I don't appear to have the tools necessary to snip changelists out of the history entirely. That's basically what I would have needed to do, to fix this cleanly. There may be a GIT way of doing that if you're an expert, but frankly? I'm mystified. So maybe the other half of this is "you also need a dedicated build engineer"? Shalinor fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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I guess git rebase is what you want in the latter case. It lets you rewrite history, usually you use it for rewriting the history of a topic branch to match upstream, but there's nothing to stop you from using it on the mainline. You can then edit, drop or reorder (provided you fix any merge conflicts) commits. Also if you have the SHAs of the original commits, git cherry-pick might be helpful. I think the way to get git to scale is by enforcing a social hierarchy on repositories even when there isn't a technical one - ie. have engineer maintainers that are responsible for merging in commits from others who might break things. But I've never actually tested that so it's just a guess .
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You have an integration repo and a "last known good revision" repo. Developers pull from the lkgr repo and push to the integration repo (or send pull requests from their own repos). Someone who knows what he's doing (call it a build engineer, integration engineer, whatever) merges from integration to known good when basic tests pass. If there's a bad push, he's the one who backs it out and fixes the tree. Letting everyone push to the trunk doesn't scale. Hiowf fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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That's close to how we roll. Nothing's pushed directly to master (ok, hotfixes are), but rather for any feature or bug fix, someone makes a branch and then a pull request is made against master with various people having to sign off before it's merged back to master. If you're not (super) comfortable on the command line, check out SourceTree, it has handy one-click menus for things like "reset master to this commit", cherry picking, interactive rebasing, and more.
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Your non technical friend probably force pushed his changes, thus rewriting history. And the way to prevent this in the future is to have a process like devil mouse suggests. You don't need seperate repos for this, because git supports branching. Just have all your non technical people push to branches and do pull requests. And only you merge them back. It will be immediately obvious in the pull request if they hosed something up. Once you merge the change back in, delete the branch.
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If you don't have separate repos, why do you trust someone who does a force push to get the remote branches right? That makes no sense. (Some centralized VCS like Perforce support per-branch permissions in which case this does make sense. But if you have a decentralized VCS, for the love of god use a separate repo.)
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Well in the enterprise version of github we use at work we have the ability to disallow pushes into master for certain people. Thus they can only push branches. Does public GitHub not have that?
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:Do we need to have a version control discussion every three pages? I was tempted to make a joke about filter-branch --all
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:Do we need to have a version control discussion every three pages? If we could stop reverting to previous changes, we'd be fine but everytime someone tries to submit a new conversation it usually just ends out with us talking about either freeways or coming back sick as dogs from conventions.
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Mega Shark posted:And this is why I still use Perforce. I think if it didn't cost three first-born children for more than 20 workspaces, more people would too. With that said, I'm so glad we use Perforce. P4V works on all platforms and is awesome. (also P4Merge is crap software and should die at the hands of the far superior Beyond Compare)
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Mega Shark posted:And this is why I still use Perforce. There's zero things mentioned in this discussion where the actual VCS matters. Centralized systems use branch permissions, decentralized ones just use decentralized repos.
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Skuto posted:There's zero things mentioned in this discussion where the actual VCS matters. Centralized systems use branch permissions, decentralized ones just use decentralized repos.  That said, aside from my grumbly post, this wasn't THAT unusually awful an event. Got it fixed in a few hours of cursing and time-warping through the history to grab the actual versions of files that should have been in place. I guess it isn't Games if you don't have trunk get broken every few months, or something. EDIT: It's worth mentioning that, even with The Explosion, I'm still liking GIT way, way better than Perforce. DCVS is quite a bit nicer for remote work, and I'm honestly not sure Perforce would be terribly workable given our extremely distributed team. I haven't even gotten to experimenting with branching yet, though I guess, technically, shelving is related. Shalinor fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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From personal experience (of being an artist), I'm significantly more likely to gently caress up something super badly in GIT than I am in Perforce. I've had to call an adult so many times over GIT-related sadness. I'm a little traumatized by the experience and feel a bit hamstrung/helpless anytime there's a merge error or conflict (which is often, even on a small team).
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