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Sjurygg posted:if it wasn't for the fact that the First British-Afghan War started in 1839 and the Land Pattern Musket finally went out of service the year before. Even better! Lots of them for sale on the cheap! And a few of the variants of the Brown Bess remained in official service up until the 1850s. hailthefish fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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Leif. posted:Khyber Pass rifles are a thing, indeed, and not just for SMLEs. I gave my father-in-law a Khyber Pass 1860 pattern Enfield Tower musket for christmas about 3 or 4 years back that a deployed TFR goon helped me arrange. Hell of an interesting gun.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I gave my father-in-law a Khyber Pass 1860 pattern Enfield Tower musket for christmas about 3 or 4 years back that a deployed TFR goon helped me arrange. Hell of an interesting gun.  You must like your father-in-law way more than I like mine.
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Leif. posted:
Yeah, the two of us get along really, really well much to the chagrin of my wife.
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Oh, and in other Cold War-related news, turns out the US is putting the serious back in forward storage of military equipment in Norway: quote:The American experiences of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is the cause of the changes in the equipment, according to defense sources. According to the newspaper Adresseavisen. Ahh, brings me back 
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Leif. posted:Norwegian mountain halls sounds like Or... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrIYT-MrVaI
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"This video is not available in your country" What gives? Now I'm intrigued...
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Dark Helmut posted:"This video is not available in your country" What gives? Now I'm intrigued... You've almost certainly heard it before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLp_Hh6DKWc
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Breaky posted:You've almost certainly heard it before: This version's cool too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhKe-Z-NhBs
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Without clicking I'm just going to guess that's In the Hall of the Mountain King by Grieg.
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I swear Joseph Kittinger was just everywhere. Every so often I just hear some other random spot that he was at. So he's best known for the former highest human freefall, he was the original Vomit Comet pilot, and also he apparently was the pilot of the spotter plane during John Stapp's(another crazy/badass guy) last manned rocket sled run where he went over 600mph.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...national-guard/ Not cold war per se but some nice photos of Oregon ANG F15's flying near forest fire pyrocumulus clouds. Could easily imagine this being a mushroom cloud instead or something. Neat shots either way.
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Breaky posted:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...national-guard/ Really cool.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/7/russian-bombers-penetrated-us-airspace-least-16-ti/quote:Russian strategic nuclear bombers conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days, an unusually sharp increase in aerial penetrations, according to U.S. defense officials. Not much more to the article other than some pictures. Anecdotally I am hearing that the same thing is going on in the UK.
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Breaky posted:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...national-guard/ This article reminded me that I had this extension installed and I was confused for a bit. Really pretty pictures though -- do they fly out of PDX?
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movax posted:This article reminded me that I had this extension installed and I was confused for a bit. Really pretty pictures though -- do they fly out of PDX? Can't get a good look at the tails on my phone, but probably either PDX or LMT (Kingsley Field at Klamath Falls).
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Leif. posted:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/7/russian-bombers-penetrated-us-airspace-least-16-ti/ Huh. That's a lot relative to what it had been the past 3-4 years.
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Leif. posted:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/7/russian-bombers-penetrated-us-airspace-least-16-ti/ http://news.yahoo.com/us-spy-plane-brush-russian-military-crosses-sweden-215628349--abc-news-topstories.html Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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Two differences: The US jet didn't violate The RC-135 is a well known ELINT platform flying in a straight line or maybe orbiting. Russia's games tend to use actual bombers, and sometimes they actually run the attack profile.
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Godholio posted:Two differences: Isn't is unlikely that an attack would come from bombers though, given that the airspace they're approaching isn't clear of fighters? I'd think ELINT is much more likely to be a precursor to an attack on Russia than, say, a B-52 would be.
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Vindolanda posted:I'd think ELINT is much more likely to be a precursor to an attack on Russia than, say, a B-52 would be.  Which comes first, the
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Vindolanda posted:Isn't is unlikely that an attack would come from bombers though, given that the airspace they're approaching isn't clear of fighters? I'd think ELINT is much more likely to be a precursor to an attack on Russia than, say, a B-52 would be. It's not about an attack, it's about the message you're sending. Regularly sending up bombers who occasionally run an attack profile right up to the edge of a country's airspace sends a much more aggressive message than sending up goofy looking airliners that drone around in circles for a couple hours. Everyone spies on everyone all the time, so it's not like us flying ELINT sorties somewhere is anything out of the ordinary or a precursor for anything.
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iyaayas01 posted:goofy looking airliners that drone around in circles for a couple hours. brb resubmitting 3-1 edits
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MrYenko posted:
The submarine. It's not 1952 anymore, and until the F-35 is fully introduced, America can still stop a turboprop bomber.
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Vindolanda posted:The submarine. It's not 1952 anymore, and until the F-35 is fully introduced, America can still stop a turboprop bomber. Sure, if your ACS system is completely functional  (:smugputin:?)
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movax posted:Sure, if your ACS system is completely functional :smuggimir:
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Propagandalf posted:brb resubmitting 3-1 edits lol
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I legit laughed at that. Edit: To explain, AFTTP 3-1 is the Air Force bible for warfare and tactics. It's about 95% classified, but Attachment 1 is unclassified and contains all the radio codewords. Read up and find out what "bogey" REALLY means! AFTTP=Air Force Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures. Godholio fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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It's also a shameless overwrought shining example of obscurant technobabble and obtuse corporatese written by pilots of the relevant ~*%THEATER WEAPONS SYSTEM%*~ to make them sound way more mission critical and un-defundable than they really are.quote:goofy looking airliners that drone around in circles for a couple hours
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Well, yeah, probably a good 25% bloat, but for a service document that ain't bad.
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Godholio posted:Well, yeah, probably a good 25% bloat, but for a service document that ain't bad. Also it seems like the number 1 use of 3-1 is for a senior pilot or C4I guy to tell the young buck pilots to shut the gently caress up because doin' summadat pilot poo poo won't save them from "x" So it's better than a lot of stuff written for/by pilots.
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mlmp08 posted:Also it seems like the number 1 use of 3-1 is for a senior pilot or C4I guy to tell the young buck pilots to shut the gently caress up because doin' summadat pilot poo poo won't save them from "x" When I was deployed I once told zippersuits they were wrong based on something in their 3-1. One of the most satisfying days of deployment...I mean, it's not uncommon for mx to tell ops they're wrong based on something in the Dash 1 (especially in RPAs, where it seems like the average pilot is a blithering idiot), but for mx to tell ops they're wrong based on something in the 3-1 was a pretty big moment.
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I drove past Dyess AFB twice in as many days and all I saw was a stinkin' Herc. The other unit that lives there flies B-1s. Similarly, I drive through Shreveport-Bossier quite often, and haven't seen a single BUFF or Warthog flying around since I got the DSLR and 300mm lens. Before I had a decent camera, or every time the person I ride with goes without me, they'd fly over almost close enough to touch on short final into Barksdale all the loving time.
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iyaayas01 posted:When I was deployed I once told zippersuits they were wrong based on something in their 3-1.
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Revolvyerom posted:This sounds like it's probably an amusing story. Could I get a little context for us civilians? I have no idea what any of the bolded means, and I'm pretty sure that holds for most of the people here. iyaayas01 posted:When I was deployed I once told zippersuits they were wrong based on something in their 3-1. 3-1: Godholio posted:I legit laughed at that. Propagandalf posted:It's also a shameless overwrought shining example of obscurant technobabble and obtuse corporatese written by pilots of the relevant ~*%THEATER WEAPONS SYSTEM%*~ to make them sound way more mission critical and un-defundable than they really are. mx: Maintenance Dash 1: First hunk of the TO for an aircraft. The owner's manual, basically. RPAs: Remotely Piloted Aircraft. Drones. Basically RTFM: Airforce Edition. hailthefish fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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