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Samurai Sanders posted:All these character reveals for Hyrule Warriors reminds me that I haven't played more than half of the Zelda games, I don't know hardly any of these guys. Same here. I think I actually have Twilight Princess around here somewhere. I'll have to try it out. I suppose if I can read the entirety of One Piece just to know what was happening going into OPPW, I can play the post OoT Zelda games. Also, regarding cutscenes and whatnot, they need to make a balls crazy Dynasty Warriors with Souten Kouro cutscenes. I'm looking at you Capcom.
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Oh man, the JP voice DLC adds spoken lines for EVERYTHING. I thought the between level narration coming back was cool enough, but everyone sounds so lively in Ambition Mode!  Dumb as it is I'm tempted to restart Ambition Mode just for that.
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Aug 5, 2014 18:34
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Dewgy posted:Oh man, the JP voice DLC adds spoken lines for EVERYTHING. I thought the between level narration coming back was cool enough, but everyone sounds so lively in Ambition Mode! Why must you taunt us poor DW8PC owners.
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Aug 5, 2014 19:17
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I think us DW8PC owners can apply a japanese voice mod and get them back. I'm not completely sure if they add ambition voices, but they do add between level voices.
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Aug 5, 2014 20:51
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Dewgy posted:Oh man, the JP voice DLC adds spoken lines for EVERYTHING. I thought the between level narration coming back was cool enough, but everyone sounds so lively in Ambition Mode!
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Aug 5, 2014 21:37
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https://twitter.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/496610044989825025 Good news. Kind of sad someone mentioned the ambition mode voices as Japanese voice acting tends to grate for me.
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Policenaut posted:Hey Samurai Warriors Chronicles is back. Now on Vita too! Fuuuuck yes. There was something oddly compelling about the first one, maybe just because the post battle conversations made it a teeny bit like playing an RPG in a Warriors game. Though I am a little suprised they're making another one because the first one just seemed like a Next style early console cash-in and the second was just an XL version of the first Luminaflare posted:What did he post about? A whole bunch of planetside 2 kills in a short period of time (if I was reading it right)
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Aug 6, 2014 00:23
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Hey Brony Hunter, I'm legit interested in any more comparisons you'd like to throw out between the historical and fictional Dynasty Warriors characters. That's some fascinating stuff.
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ScottyBomb posted:Hey Brony Hunter, I'm legit interested in any more comparisons you'd like to throw out between the historical and fictional Dynasty Warriors characters. That's some fascinating stuff. Yeah I'll second that it was a really interesting read.
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Aug 6, 2014 17:25
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I'll third that, please discuss basically every single person. Seeing the crazy exaggerated portrayals in DW is fun but whilst we probably all expect Dong Zhuo didn't look quite so much like a literal demon IRL, some of the gulfs between history and portrayal (like half of Shu  ) are ridiculous. Next you're gonna tell us Zhang Jiao didn't have magic and Cao Pi was a humble and benevolent man.So also, is there a rundown anywhere of the differences between Reforge and Temper? Are either worth doing? Also how can you get any significant number of 5-star weapons, I've been playing tons of highest difficulty maps because Level 150 Lu Bu but all I've ended up with is Guo Huai's ridiculous gun. e; Well poo poo, I checked the Koei wiki, I didn't realize they had specific unlock conditions rather than being random drops, thought that was only 6-star. Finally, I really did go play some Romance after my last post, and Lu Bu's start is really really difficult in between Cao Cao and Yuan Shao. It seems some strategy is needed after all 
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Aug 6, 2014 17:38
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Mister Adequate posted:So also, is there a rundown anywhere of the differences between Reforge and Temper? Are either worth doing? Reforge takes three weapons and turns them into two new weapons; it is useless. Temper takes one weapon and adds the qualities of second weapon to it, giving it new properties and improving the ones they have in common. It is worth doing. Once you have a weapon with the properties you want, it's easy to use Temper to max out their levels.
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Mister Adequate posted:I'll third that, please discuss basically every single person. Seeing the crazy exaggerated portrayals in DW is fun but whilst we probably all expect Dong Zhuo didn't look quite so much like a literal demon IRL  
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Aug 6, 2014 18:12
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Reforge is useful in Samurai 4 because you can control what weapon it turns into, and it doesn't cost anything (though any upgrades you put into that weapon are removed). It's the best thing for leveling up a new character.
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Aug 6, 2014 18:13
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Basically use fusion to put the elements you want on your weapon then temper all your poo poo weapons onto it.
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Ahhh I see, that makes sense now. Thanks goons. Also that comic is hilarious. Half-tempted to get a new avatar based on that Handsome Dong Zhuo panel.
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Aug 6, 2014 18:18
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Chortles posted:For laughs, here's Ravages of Time Dong Zhuo when "Diaochan" initially rejects him: I didn't realize that Dong Zhuo is actually Solid Snake.
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Aug 6, 2014 18:50
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Alright, guys I'll do some more DW history talk given you're interested  What would you guys rather me do, talk just about the historical comparisons or do you want me to also bring up the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel and other sources?
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Jibo posted:Same here. I think I actually have Twilight Princess around here somewhere. I'll have to try it out. I suppose if I can read the entirety of One Piece just to know what was happening going into OPPW, I can play the post OoT Zelda games. Personally, and others may disagree with me, but I feel like Twilight Princess is one of the best Zelda games made. I personally rank it well above OoT. It has a bittersweet sadness to it I find reminiscent of Majora's Mask, and the dungeons are quite good too. I love some of the designs and ideas they came up with for it. Edit: With the noted exception of the opening tutorial area. gently caress that poo poo, stop making me do chores for the neighbors and let me adventure already!
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Brony Hunter posted:Alright, guys I'll do some more DW history talk given you're interested I'm mostly interested in the historical comparisons, though weird poo poo from the novel would be interesting if it relates to the overblown portrayal of the characters in the games.
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Palleon posted:I didn't realize that Dong Zhuo is actually Solid Snake. I remember that Dong Zhuo IS actually meant to be a handsome man. DW made him an ugly bastard(And more ugly since), and it stuck. It's very...fitting for a man devoting himself to pleasure, but then you look at Liu Shan the Olympic Fencer.
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Gimnbo posted:I'm mostly interested in the historical comparisons, though weird poo poo from the novel would be interesting if it relates to the overblown portrayal of the characters in the games. Seconded. Bloodly posted:I remember that Dong Zhuo IS actually meant to be a handsome man. DW made him an ugly bastard(And more ugly since), and it stuck. I may be misremembering, but I seem to recall the novel saying he was exceedingly fat.
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Gimnbo posted:I'm mostly interested in the historical comparisons, though weird poo poo from the novel would be interesting if it relates to the overblown portrayal of the characters in the games. Noted. And Big Dong was said to be very strong and athletic in his youth. He was a front line general so was pretty renowned as an athletic and fierce warrior, skilled in archery, riding and martial arts. It's likely his later obesity came from the sheer greed and gluttony that overcame him when he took over the capital and started bossing everyone around.
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Mister Adequate posted:Also that comic is hilarious. Half-tempted to get a new avatar based on that Handsome Dong Zhuo panel.  (Context: An attempted murder plot by rival officers under Dong Zhuo against Lu Bu went sour when he lured them to the troops that they were supposed to be commanding, who believe that the officers were plotting against Lu Bu as a way to usurp Dong Zhuo, so the troops decide to take Lu Bu's side and this is him driving up his PR further.) Brony Hunter posted:Alright, guys I'll do some more DW history talk given you're interested
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What's the most accessible version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms (the novel)? I seem to recall reading an abridged version a long while ago, and it was a bit of a slog. Lots of begats, to use a bible analogy.
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Got 8 for my ps4, its decently fun but I must have missed something since the items system seems a bit weird to me. I have not played a DW game since 4, I know the best weapons are still found on levels by doing X things, but how does it work for the rest of the stuff. There is a vendor that sells some, but then they also level up or something, and i find them on levels. The difficulty also seems inconsistent, with normal being too easy but then I got my rear end kicked and could barely hurt dudes on the next notch up. Is there a quick an easy summary oh how I should pick a dudes weapons or whatever?
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FredMSloniker posted:What's the most accessible version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms (the novel)? I seem to recall reading an abridged version a long while ago, and it was a bit of a slog. Lots of begats, to use a bible analogy. I suggest the Moss Roberts translation: http://www.amazon.com/Three-Kingdoms-Chinese-Classics-Volumes/dp/7119005901 The novel stars out kinda rough, as the political situation pre-yellow turbans can be kind of a chore to get through. However, soon you'll be seeing familiar faces and familiar events. Having played the games is actually kind of boon, as you'll be able to at least keep track of the important people. Also, a lot of really REALLY interesting historical anecdotes and comparisons can be found in the footnotes of the Moss Roberts translation. I HIGHLY recommend reading them along with the book.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Got 8 for my ps4, its decently fun but I must have missed something since the items system seems a bit weird to me. I have not played a DW game since 4, I know the best weapons are still found on levels by doing X things, but how does it work for the rest of the stuff. There is a vendor that sells some, but then they also level up or something, and i find them on levels. The difficulty also seems inconsistent, with normal being too easy but then I got my rear end kicked and could barely hurt dudes on the next notch up. Normal is a good difficuly for playing through Story Mode for the first time. If it seems easy, well, it's Dynasty Warriors. It's not a difficult game, especially in earlier levels. Weapons are acquired from the blacksmith and enemy officers; their levels tend to be based on the stage in which you obtain them. The weapons themselves can be improved by adding special abilities, but that's only in Ambition Mode (which you can safely put off until later). Weapons do not improve on their own (unlike in DW4, where a character's weapon leveled as you used him). WoodrowSkillson posted:Is there a quick an easy summary oh how I should pick a dudes weapons or whatever? Different people like to assign weapons differently. Personally, I like to use one of a character's EX weapon and one of a different kind with which the character has maximum compatibility, both of different elements.
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Maleketh posted:Normal is a good difficuly for playing through Story Mode for the first time. If it seems easy, well, it's Dynasty Warriors. It's not a difficult game, especially in earlier levels. Weapons are acquired from the blacksmith and enemy officers; their levels tend to be based on the stage in which you obtain them. The weapons themselves can be improved by adding special abilities, but that's only in Ambition Mode (which you can safely put off until later). Weapons do not improve on their own (unlike in DW4, where a character's weapon leveled as you used him). Thanks, I'm not overly concerned, was wondering if the difficulty jump was me not doing poo poo right, sounds like I'm doing ok.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Got 8 for my ps4, its decently fun but I must have missed something since the items system seems a bit weird to me. I have not played a DW game since 4, I know the best weapons are still found on levels by doing X things, but how does it work for the rest of the stuff. There is a vendor that sells some, but then they also level up or something, and i find them on levels. The difficulty also seems inconsistent, with normal being too easy but then I got my rear end kicked and could barely hurt dudes on the next notch up. Ambition Mode is where all the fun stuff for getting items and weapons is, since you fight tons of officers in generic encounters and can use your trash weapons to improve your other ones. Theoretically you can make any weapon as powerful as another through fusion (and wasting tons of gems) but generally more stars is better, then play with the Blacksmith to really break things.
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Has anyone attempted a Dynasty Warriors Lets Play yet, or are you guys saving that till Hyrule Warriors comes out, so you can show all those filthy casuals how REAL button mashing is done?
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A Dynasty Warriors Let's play would be the most boring thing on the planet.
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Maleketh posted:Different people like to assign weapons differently. Personally, I like to use one of a character's EX weapon and one of a different kind with which the character has maximum compatibility, both of different elements. I like to mostly follow this pattern as well. Everyone gets their EX weapon, then I pick a second max compatibility weapon that I find aesthetically pleasing for that character (usually something to feels natural for their model, but sometimes its just something I find hilarious). It's kind of time consuming, especially if you're crazy and load up everyone's weapons with rank 10 abilities, but I found I enjoyed the game more when I didn't have to keep going "I don't want to play with X, he doesn't have any decent weapons". Endorph posted:A Dynasty Warriors Let's play would be the most boring thing on the planet. I think a RoTK LP could work, if you have someone who can write a decent narrative around the characters and what's happening in game. There's also a fair amount of mechanics/strategies you could explain, depending on the version you were playing. DW though would be pretty hard to do. As much as I like playing it, I am not sure it would be very fun to watch.
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I have a fully complete or nearly fully complete DW2 Shu Zhao Yun playthrough with commentary sitting on my hard drive. I originally wanted to do something like the Run Button guys did with Mario/Sonic where I do a basic play through of each game, pointing out what changed with each game, and throwing in my history stuff. Then I realized how much work that was gonna be and found other ways to waste my time.
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Dynasty Warriors would be fun to LP if you have a newcomer that needs explaining why the Yellow Turban has a magician as a leader or why one guy has a rocket lance.
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Tae posted:Dynasty Warriors would be fun to LP if you have a newcomer that needs explaining why the Yellow Turban has a magician as a leader or why one guy has a rocket lance. "Oh."
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Endorph posted:"Because they're taking historical figures and warping and exaggerating them for dramatic/narrative/comedic effect." You're the reason why DW LP's don't exist
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In regards to DW lps, an Empires LP with good narrative focus seems like the best way to do it - get the audience involved in the decision /policy making (if possible), take losses/deaths as they come, invest them in the kingdom and maybe have a side snippet which explains the truth. Include a link to the battles in each post, trying to switch up character use and show off as many different tricks/combos as possible. Preferably with a funny co-commentator. It's doable, and if done right it could probably be one of the best on the forum, but it'd require a ton of work to do right.
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PureRok posted:People lose/die in Empires? That game is absurdly easy. It is, but there's at least one combination of empires/settings which provides some form of risk
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