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Looks like I'm a little late to the Phantom party, but apparently one of the last USAF-operated F-4's stopped over on base here a few days ago. Public affairs posted a bunch of pics, including these: 
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Jonny Nox posted:Rafales are poo poo and cant even out climb or turn a Eurofighter. Madurai posted:Rafale would be the pick if the RCN still had a carrier, but otherwise, there's a reason it's not getting many export sales. General Petraeus makes sure to phone every potential export market to tell them that it's yesterday's technology. Phy posted:Don't have to repaint the plane to have signage primarily en francais. It's a plane made to NATO standard meaning that everything inside is in English. Regardless, the idea that Washington would tolerate Canada buying a French plane instead of the F-35 is ridiculous. It'll be rejected, possibly using the Mistral deal as a pretext. Canada snubbing the F-35 to buy a non-American plane instead would lead to so many blown gaskets in the Pentagon it'd be interpreted as an act of terrorism.
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Aug 7, 2014 01:09
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Flying single engine up in the Arctic is something I would never want to try and it amazes me that Canadian military top brass have zero issue with this. ...then again I saw a Mooney M20 flying up in one of the northern communities so what the hell do I know
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Freshwater Louie posted:Flying single engine up in the Arctic is something I would never want to try and it amazes me that Canadian military top brass have zero issue with this. I'm with you, I like to have twice as many engines when things are looking cold and frigid down below. The Canadians seem to subscribe to the "2 engines means another engine to go to bits" philosophy, and it serves them well. Cessna Caravans and Skylanes do a lot of work in the great white north.  While i'm not sure you could pay me to get in one above polar bear country, LifeMed Alaska uses single engine Aerospatiale AS350s single, belt driven, non-redundant hydraulic systems. Nope, nope, also nope.
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Aug 7, 2014 01:42
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A Melted Tarp posted:
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Generation Internet posted:Why should Quebec care about the Rafale? It's a French plane that's produced in France, it's no different to them than an American plane made in the U.S. or a Swedish plane made in Sweden. I'm sure it's a fine airplane that we'd be better off buying than the F-35, but the suggestion that it would have anything to do with an imaginary Quebec-France cultural connection is laughable. Vive le Québec libre, that's why. No it doesn't add any jobs to Quebec or anything but it's a token nod to "oh, yes, right, our government may be a bunch of fat old anglos but we totally recognize Quebec's French heritage, look, we have a good relationship with France, we're just as much part of la Francophonie as we are the Commonwealth" etc etc. I don't think there's any political reason to do that now that the Bloc has self-destructed, though. Except that the Rafale is every possible way a better airplane than the F-35, you know.
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Aug 7, 2014 01:58
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Hot Vixen-on-Vixen action:
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A Melted Tarp posted:The Canadians seem to subscribe to the "2 engines means another engine to go to bits" philosophy, and it serves them well. Cessna Caravans and Skylanes do a lot of work in the great white north. I cringe whenever I see a Caravan operating up in the Arctic during spring or fall. have fun staying aloft in anything more than trace icing you weirdos
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Aug 7, 2014 02:19
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Sagebrush posted:Vive le Québec libre, that's why. No it doesn't add any jobs to Quebec or anything but it's a token nod to "oh, yes, right, our government may be a bunch of fat old anglos but we totally recognize Quebec's French heritage, look, we have a good relationship with France, we're just as much part of la Francophonie as we are the Commonwealth" etc etc. That's completely ridiculous. You are vastly overestimating the importance of modern day France in Quebec culture and politics.
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Aug 7, 2014 02:22
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I had my first and only engine shutdown on a sortie over the Bering Strait. Granted, the E-3 has four and flies fine on 3, I was still like, "THIS WOULD BE A LOVELY TIME TO HEAD HOME."
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Aug 7, 2014 02:43
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Anyone have a good source of Streak Eagle pictures? Everything I'm finding are 1/32 scale model pictures. "F-15 Streak Eagle (AF Ser. No.72-0119) https://www.boeing.com/boeing/history/mdc/eagle.page "Between Jan. 16 and Feb. 1, 1975, an F-15A nicknamed "Streak Eagle" broke eight time-to-climb world records. It reached an altitude of 98,425 feet just 3 minutes 27.8 seconds from brake release at takeoff and coasted to nearly 103,000 feet before descending"
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pkells posted:Looks like I'm a little late to the Phantom party, but apparently one of the last USAF-operated F-4's stopped over on base here a few days ago. Public affairs posted a bunch of pics, including these: I absolutely love that Tyndall keeps that bird painted all purty. In early 2005 right after I got there, I was parked in the car facing the flightline. I saw that F-4 take off...followed by a 4-ship of F-15s, followed by a pair of F-22s. Almost fifty loving years of kicking rear end, in a matter of seconds.
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Aug 7, 2014 03:19
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So somebody on Reddit's /r/aviation (of all places) pointed out a couple cool waypoints around Portland. Among them, HIPSTR and WIDMR. Who gets to name these, and what are some of the other great ones around?
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Aug 7, 2014 03:21
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I don't know if they're still there, but there were ICEMN and MAVRK near Navy Corpus for a while. I assume some FAA airspace guy is responsible.
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ctishman posted:So somebody on Reddit's /r/aviation (of all places) pointed out a couple cool waypoints around Portland. Among them, HIPSTR and WIDMR. Who gets to name these, and what are some of the other great ones around? Employees within the Air Traffic Organization usually. Often controllers, ATC managers, or regional staff. Dead Reckoning posted:I don't know if they're still there, but there were ICEMN and MAVRK near Navy Corpus for a while.  MAVRK is on the Laughling One Departure out of Laughling AFB, KDLF. The Ferret King fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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ctishman posted:So somebody on Reddit's /r/aviation (of all places) pointed out a couple cool waypoints around Portland. Among them, HIPSTR and WIDMR. Who gets to name these, and what are some of the other great ones around? There's one near palm springs named MORON.
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Aug 7, 2014 03:33
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Sagebrush posted:Vive le Québec libre, that's why. No it doesn't add any jobs to Quebec or anything but it's a token nod to "oh, yes, right, our government may be a bunch of fat old anglos but we totally recognize Quebec's French heritage, look, we have a good relationship with France, we're just as much part of la Francophonie as we are the Commonwealth" etc etc. Quebec has had no special love for France since the moment the British sent them packing, and even before that they had a distinctly Canadien identity. In the war of 1812 the Americans thought Quebec would welcome them with open arms due to a common struggle against British oppression. They were wrong. During the first world war the conscription crisis was driven by the fact that Quebec felt entirely removed from the conflict and didn't fancy being forced to fight for Britain or France. The idea that they give one single poo poo about France nowadays is just completely wrong. It's a bit of a derail, but Quebec issues have been more at the front of my mind since I've been living here for the past two years. Anglophone attitudes towards the entire province are far worse than anything Quebec could do themselves. The Rafale is still the better plane, though.
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Aug 7, 2014 03:39
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We named our orbits DICKTREE 1 and DICKTREE 2 during a multi-nation exercise based out of Guam. Andersen AB has a dick tree that a lot of the crews took their group photos in front of. 
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Aug 7, 2014 03:41
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Duke Chin posted:There is no drat way on God's no you don't
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Aug 7, 2014 03:42
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That crash site is within walking distance of my house. There have been multiple crashes up there and they're almost entirely due to weather. There are probably 150 AStar flights over my house, on average, every day in the summer. Every once in a while you're going to have an accident, and honestly the fact that nobody has died in an AStar when it has happened (here) would sell me on them more.
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A Handed Missus posted:I thought the whole point of the B-17 was to fit as many 50 cals as possible on a plane, but it looks pretty smooth if you remove the guns and add an extra engine Or you can be like the Russians, look at the B-17, and say "is better with jet engine!" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-14 (not a spot-on airframe copy, but close enough that there was obviously some influence) slidebite posted:The only thing more pathetic than Westjet butchering of French are Canadians that just can't let the loving arrow go already. The Canadians really dodged a bullet, seeing as the Arrow was supposed to use the late 50s/early 60s-era Sparrow II as its main missile armament. The Bomarcs seriously would've had more of a success rate given the operational history of them during the Vietnam War, where pilots frequently would launch *two* of the loving things against a single target because they were horrendously prone to just dropping from the recessed rails without an engine ignition. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Or you can be like the Russians, look at the B-17, and say "is better with jet engine!" Da, everything better with jet engine. quote:The Soviets insisted on the use of a jet engine in the new aircraft, and also participated in the design process. Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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Aug 7, 2014 10:34
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I still hold that the Backfire with AAMs is the best solution for the Canadian interceptor / Arctic sovereignty role.
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LostCosmonaut posted:I still hold that the Backfire with AAMs is the best solution for the Canadian interceptor / Arctic sovereignty role. In that case, just sell the Canadians the B-1R. Four F-22 engines, supercruise, something like 20+ AMRAAMs, basically a SAM site in the sky. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Aug 7, 2014 |
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LostCosmonaut posted:I still hold that the Backfire with AAMs is the best solution for the Canadian interceptor / Arctic sovereignty role. The Backfire has sexy sexy shoulders.
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ctishman posted:So somebody on Reddit's /r/aviation (of all places) pointed out a couple cool waypoints around Portland. Among them, HIPSTR and WIDMR. Who gets to name these, and what are some of the other great ones around? KLEB in Lebanon, NH has and ILS approach that follows HAMMM, BURGR, FRYYS. KMCI in Kansas City has an ILS approach with SPICY, BARBQ, TERKY, SMOKE, RIBBS. And now I'm hungry.
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Don't see one of these every day. Vought Pirate. 1945 first flight, first Navy aircraft with an afterburner, built out of a wood and aluminum composite. Was underpowered, and never saw active service. This is the last one left, and is a really really nice restoration to leave out in the weather like that.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:12
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ILS to RWY16 at KPSM, Portsmouth, NH. ITAWT ITAWA PUDYE TTATT And the missed approach point... IDEED Don't get it? I suppose SATAN is worthy of mention as well.
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The Ferret King posted:Employees within the Air Traffic Organization usually. Often controllers, ATC managers, or regional staff. Is there a story to go with YEEHA ?
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Worthleast posted:Is there a story to go with YEEHA ? If I had to hazard a guess it would be a reference to Goose's "Yeehaa, great balls of fire" and other such if you were to stick with the Top Gun theme.
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Worthleast posted:Is there a story to go with YEEHA ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmP9b7McyAk&t=28s ?
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I was gonna post that one but I was really looking for the one right before they had to fly Cougar in on approach. Now that I've re-watched the opener to Top Gun about 5 times, I was wondering if anyone has a good source of carrier flight-ops footage? Watching a crew work that ballet is just 
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Ola posted:ILS to RWY16 at KPSM, Portsmouth, NH. I knew there was another one nearby, I couldn't remember it.
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Who wants to see some Mosquito wing load bearing and stress testing footage? Wings under test (1947): http://youtu.be/o7CK_sXlLsA
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I'm going to have to remember this one as a way of saying we don't care about the troops - just change out the military organisation and its people:quote:Operational value is the paramount consideration in [the design of aircraft] for the [Royal Australian Air Force]; but the safety of the [air crew] is provided for to the maximum possible extent. Also, I love his RP Aussie thing that the VO has going on.
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Worthleast posted:Is there a story to go with YEEHA ? I guess it's possibly a reference to Top Gun, but this is Texas and it's probably yet another cowboy term. Corpus airspace has JIMIE and PINNR in reference to a retired controller from there, Jimmy Pinner.
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Slo-Tek posted:Don't see one of these every day. The intake is so wee 
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Advent Horizon posted:That crash site is within walking distance of my house. There have been multiple crashes up there and they're almost entirely due to weather. There are probably 150 AStar flights over my house, on average, every day in the summer. Every once in a while you're going to have an accident, and honestly the fact that nobody has died in an AStar when it has happened (here) would sell me on them more. I think you keep forgetting that I'm the poster who has spent 20 years in Juneau, I know all about the mosquito cloud-like thickness of Astars in the summer 
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slidebite posted:The intake is so wee It no-joke took me like an extra 3-5 seconds to find it. "OH! Oh. Ohhhhhhh...  "
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