Miley Virus posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r71l-ajiuHA

Luigi Thirty posted:

How are streamers such as "kaceytron" allowed to stream on Twitch when they are breaking your own T&C's and are profiting from it. For example, when watching a stream by herself last night entitled "Tired of people saying that I show cleavage whenever I don't" this is the what was being broadcast source http://i.imgur.com/P21KHxw.png past broadcast http://www.twitch.tv/kaceytron/b/555307469

In your own legal T&C's it is written (2nd c, down) source http://www.twitch.tv/user/legal

13. c, Content that is unlawful, libellous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, indecent, lewd, suggestive, harassing, threatening, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, abusive, inflammatory, fraudulent or otherwise objectionable;

It is quite apparent she shows no regard for this statement in her title and is playing oblivious for the views, donations and subscriptions. This in turn draws in extra viewers who are only there to inflame on her chat to try and evoke a reaction from her, resulting in more advertisement revenue.

She is also quoted in her previous broadcast as saying she abides to all Twitch T&C's time: 2:43:31

While she may be hosting gaming related content, her webcam content is extremely obscene, indecent, lewd and suggestive. The way she also speaks to her viewers in chat is inflammatory and a lot of times she is abusive to any criticism she is giving, this can be said about the people in her chat too.

During this stream, it was also noted that a member of Twitch staff and a Twitch admin were viewing the stream for around 30 minutes and no action was taken of any kind. (sorry no screen shot)

How can this be justified when someone is showing complete disregard to your T&C's and is profiting from it without consequences?

p.s Thanks for doing this AMA, it's given us all a chance to ask what we want to

Edit: Just to be clear , this is about someone who is breaking a websites T&C's in more than one place and getting away with it whereas other user will have the ban hammer slapped down on them for much more minor things. Not that she has boobs.

Shaggar posted:

video games are litterrally art and should carry the same protections under the law as other forms of copyrighted art.

Egan Yardley posted:

tw: reddit sign but holy poo poo twitch's ceo has the best neckbeard i've ever seen



I am actually impressed.

Werthog 95 posted:

We have absolutely no intention of flagging songs due to original in-game music. If that's happening (and it appears it is),

stoutfish posted:

shaggar was wrong

Werthog 95 posted:

Dear Twitch,

I've loved your site before its inception, back when it was only Justin.tv's gaming section. It's thanks to your service that I was able to turn my passion into a dream job.

However, several implemented changes to the site has made the site a worse experience. The streaming delay was the final straw for a lot of people, but I had faith that Twitch knew best. Around this time I was in San Francisco, and some Twitch employees told me in person that this change was necessary in order to maintain a profitable business, despite it hurting the quality of the site. Fine, whatever. I'll deal with it.

Deleting all past broadcasts and limiting highlights to 2 hours was extremely disappointing, and I hoped that workarounds were potentially possible and that you would listen to us. Yesterday myself, some speedrunners, and some Twitch staff members had a Skype conversation about this. Twitch staff were rather opposed to lengthening the Highlight VODs because of storage concerns, despite deleting petabytes of past broadcasts.

Breaking up highlights reminds me of when we had to record our speedruns in 2 hour chunks via DVD recorder. A bad limitation of old technology. Yet here we are in 2014 and we are having our content once again broken up into 2 hour segments. This severely impacts the usability of highlights. I have legitimate use cases for long highlights, as we archive our best speedrun times and use the VOD as proof. See: http://zeldaspeedruns.com/leaderboards/tww/any[1] .

Forget all that, though. The 2 hour highlight limit is nothing compared to Content ID matching.

Applying Content ID matches on gaming music on a site that was built to stream videogames is absurd. Game music directly from the capture of the game itself is being taken down all over. Dealing with YouTube's overzealous policies on gaming content has been one of the most obnoxious things I've experienced as a content creator, and one of the reasons Twitch felt like home to me is because it's supposed to be a website focused on gaming content creation.

It certainly doesn't seem to be working out like that, though. Maybe it is due to needing to keep the company sustainable. Maybe it is fear of copyright issues now that Twitch has grown so much. Whatever it is, it is significantly impacting the user experience.

I have cancelled all my subscriptions and I will not renew Turbo. I am currently looking for alternative sites to stream on (perhaps hitbox.tv). The least I can do is give an alternative site a try, even if it hurts my income. I do hope an alternate site could work out, because Twitch has a near-monopoly on live gaming content at the moment.

I'm simply finding it rather hard to support a site that is so afraid of a legal grey-area that it pre-emptively begins to sabotage a large portion of its user base.

My question to you: Why should I keep streaming on Twitch as opposed to a different site that has none of these issues?

-Cosmo Wright

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Shaggar posted:

y should video games not receive the same protections?

stoutfish posted:

because they are not art. you can stream yourself playing with a toy, and that isn't protected so neither should video games be

quote:

Copyright does not protect the idea for a game, its name or title, or the method or methods for playing it. Nor does copyright protect any idea, system, method, device, or trademark material involved in developing, merchandising, or playing a game. Once a game has been made public, nothing in the copyright law prevents others from developing another game based on similar principles. Copyright protects only the particular manner of an author’s expression in literary, artistic, or musical form.

Material prepared in connection with a game may be subject to copyright if it contains a sufficient amount of literary or pictorial expression. For example, the text matter describing the rules of the game or the pictorial matter appearing on the gameboard or container may be registrable.

If your game includes any written element, such as instructions or directions, the Copyright Office recommends that you apply to register it as a literary work. Doing so will allow you to register all copyrightable parts of the game, including any pictorial elements. When the copyrightable elements of the game consist predominantly of pictorial matter, you should apply to register it as a work of the visual arts.

Shaggar posted:

actually the supreme court established that they are legally art.

stoutfish posted:

they also ruled that corporations are people so the law doesn't represent reality

pram posted:

bioshock and halo are both art

Pinterest Mom posted:

stoutfish posted:

they also ruled that corporations are people so the law doesn't represent reality

Pinterest Mom posted:

Egan Yardley posted:

nuke the loving earth from orbit, we are a disease in this damned existence

MORE CURLY FRIES posted:

also you didnt embed to the best bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r71l-ajiuHA&t=1781s

PuTTY riot posted:

wtf am i watching

Valeyard posted:

just stop it, dont wwatch, i couldnt do it

PuTTY riot posted:

shes cute idgi why is she doing this?

stoutfish posted:

financial domination pays very well and the gross nerd doesn't even touch you

Boxturret posted:

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PuTTY riot posted:

hes paying to get friendzoned?