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| Elminster |
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20 | 6.45% |
| Elmara |
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20 | 6.45% |
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99 | 31.94% |
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153 | 49.35% |
| Elves |
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5 | 1.61% |
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I seem to recall Arrows being nice enough in that it really is a rare treat to draw heavy inspiration from non-Eurocentric sources, and he did an okay job at it. It still kind of mediocred game-wise because he didn't really go all that far to change the system to suit the setting, so you've got "racial templates" made out of castes which is honestly kind of hosed up, and jamming a mishmash of the variety of Indian mythic "races" into what appear to be pretty bog-standard D&D analogs. It's also got some eye-glazing Random Tables of Whatever, but that's down to taste so who cares. The bulk of its sins are far from unique in this industry nor are they especially egregious, and it's admirable that it tried to be modestly different. Of course, he patted himself on the back relentlessly. (I don't think the trans person ever really came up until now, though. Hmm!) Even if he weren't a raging rear end in a top hat, you get to the point where you can barely stop the eye-rolling long enough to congratulate him for what he did right. The F&F here was pretty aggressive and uncharitable at first—surprise rear end in a top hat, people think you're an rear end in a top hat!—but once Pundit sermonized about it to his congregation, the reviewer actually reconsidered and changed his approach. I doubt Pundit cared other than that SA was "attacking" him again, so he probably didn't follow the review to its close, but if he did I never saw any sign that he talked about the change in perspective. I suppose Lords of Olympus kind of falls into the same boat where it's honestly an okay-ish game and most of the splash it makes is because its author is a gaping anus. If you want to take Pundit to task for his game design, look at Forward…to Adventure! I think it's his debut work and is pretty "original" to him (even though it carries as much D&D baggage as it can). It is a pile and the art is hilarious. That Old Tree fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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PleasingFungus posted:If I tell you that you're not, will you be angry? Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
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Aug 8, 2014 08:25
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i think it's a test embrace your destiny, evil sagan
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Aug 8, 2014 09:10
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Tollymain posted:i think it's a test What? Get the gently caress off my boyfriend.
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Aug 8, 2014 09:17
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what are you talking about i thought we were joking about the outrage brigade and whether or not we are in it
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Aug 8, 2014 09:20
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paging I AM THE MOON
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Aug 8, 2014 11:14
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Tollymain posted:what are you talking about Sure I'm in the Outrage Brigade. My outrage is get the gently caress away from my boyfriend.
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Aug 8, 2014 12:03
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Slimnoid posted:No. Savage. No, Savage.
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Aug 8, 2014 12:04
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Well done!
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Aug 8, 2014 12:15
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Darwinism posted:I think that just posting here makes us part of the Ettin hivemind, so yeah we're definitely part of the Outrage Brigade
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Aug 8, 2014 12:30
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frankenfreak posted:Well done! Stick with the prod, prod with the prod!
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Aug 8, 2014 12:38
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MadScientistWorking posted:That is really hilarious given that unless there are two people with the same exact name posting one of Zak's most ardent defenders I have seen is the goon Seebs. Wait, Seebs is a goon? They're stalking my Tumblr now because when making a post about Zak and the awful things he's done I called out Seebs (whose post was linked by the person I was responding) for making a lovely and transphobic argument to defend Zak and Mandy. Now Seebs is accusing me of being a sockpuppet. (Note: My Tumblr name is the exact same name I use here and on like every other site I go on where it's not already taken; I have been using it for years.) Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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Aug 8, 2014 12:44
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Deep down, we are all Mikan.
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Aug 8, 2014 12:54
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No, Savage!
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Aug 8, 2014 13:05
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No. Savage.
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Arivia posted:Sure I'm in the Outrage Brigade. My outrage is get the gently caress away from my boyfriend. I'm outraged at people having relationships
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Aug 8, 2014 14:08
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Captain Foo posted:I'm outraged at people having relationships
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Aug 8, 2014 14:22
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I ate some couscous with eggs, fried cheese and orange juice... Trés bon!
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Aug 8, 2014 14:25
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Roland Jones posted:Wait, Seebs is a goon? They're stalking my Tumblr now because when making a post about Zak and the awful things he's done I called out Seebs (whose post was linked by the person I was responding) for making a lovely and transphobic argument to defend Zak and Mandy. Now Seebs is accusing me of being a sockpuppet. (Note: My Tumblr name is the exact same name I use here and on like every other site I go on where it's not already taken; I have been using it for years.) I read his rebuttal to you, and his obsession with jump cuts suggests, in my professional opinion, that he's loving nutzo and a big cowardly codfish, and my gang of fourteen disabled QUILTBAG communi-fascist monarchist women of color will back me up on this.
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Aug 8, 2014 14:28
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How do I join the Outrage Brigade? Everybody seems to be in on it but I can't find the recruitment office.
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Aug 8, 2014 14:30
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Effectronica posted:I read his rebuttal to you, and his obsession with jump cuts suggests, in my professional opinion, that he's loving nutzo and a big cowardly codfish, and my gang of fourteen disabled QUILTBAG communi-fascist monarchist women of color will back me up on this. The rebuttal is even more obscene that the post I called out as transphobic, really; using "trans friends" as tools to strengthen their argument, repeatedly denying someone's transness, and calling for a poll to determine if someone was truly outed are downright abhorrent. Accusing Read Mores of being a tactic to stifle debate and trigger warnings as attempts at defamation are just the crazy icing on the cake of horribleness. Also my post amuses me because apparently it's been on Twitter and G+ and circulated on those networks more than it has on Tumblr, which is where I actually posted it. Alien Rope Burn posted:How do I join the Outrage Brigade? Everybody seems to be in on it but I can't find the recruitment office. I dunno, I thought I was part of it but apparently I'm really a secret identity used by other members of the brigade, including but not limited to Mikan. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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Aug 8, 2014 14:33
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They recruit from the same offices as the Jewish Conspiracy and the UN Council for Taking Over the World. Have you tried there?
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Aug 8, 2014 14:34
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Roland Jones posted:Wait, Seebs is a goon? They posted in the D&D Next thread quite a few times recently. It's not a new account.
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Aug 8, 2014 14:35
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Roland Jones posted:The rebuttal is even more obscene that the post I called out as transphobic, really; using "trans friends" as tools to strengthen their argument, repeatedly denying someone's transness, and calling for a poll to determine if someone was outed are downright abhorrent. Accusing Read Mores of being a tactic to stifle debate and trigger warnings as attempts at defamation are just the crazy icing on the cake of horribleness. Seriously, though, having your imaginary friends suggest you should be violent is a real sign you should get Baker Acted into getting help. Actually, just using imaginary friends that write exactly like you do is a big sign you should get help.
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Aug 8, 2014 14:39
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Slimnoid posted:Ugh why did you remind me of that poo poo. I don't know, it was a terrible post. Sorry. Plague of Hats posted:I suppose Lords of Olympus kind of falls into the same boat where it's honestly an okay-ish game and most of the splash it makes is because its author is a gaping anus. Yeah, it's basically just a reskinned Amber, it's not particularly offensive. It's not particularly interesting, either. Plague of Hats posted:If you want to take Pundit to task for his game design, look at Forward…to Adventure! I think it's his debut work and is pretty "original" to him (even though it carries as much D&D baggage as it can). It is a pile and the art is hilarious. It's a pretty classic heartbreaker, right down to the bullish lack of self-awareness.
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Aug 8, 2014 14:42
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Roland Jones posted:The rebuttal is even more obscene that the post I called out as transphobic, really; using "trans friends" as tools to strengthen their argument, repeatedly denying someone's transness, and calling for a poll to determine if someone was truly outed are downright abhorrent. Accusing Read Mores of being a tactic to stifle debate and trigger warnings as attempts at defamation are just the crazy icing on the cake of horribleness. Ripping into Seebs isn't even worth the time and effort because he'll either avoid the topic altogether, or he'll post this huge multi-paragraph tl;dr screed that makes your eyes glaze over. Which is pretty typical of a goon.
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Aug 8, 2014 14:51
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Slimnoid posted:Ripping into Seebs isn't even worth the time and effort because he'll either avoid the topic altogether, or he'll post this huge multi-paragraph tl;dr screed that makes your eyes glaze over. Yea isn't his MO either pretending he didn't see your complaint or posting a huge epic poem about how 'no actually you are the fucker' that's practically designed to be so dense and lovely no one sane can read it?
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Aug 8, 2014 15:01
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea isn't his MO either pretending he didn't see your complaint or posting a huge epic poem about how 'no actually you are the fucker' that's practically designed to be so dense and lovely no one sane can read it? Right on the money, honey. Edit: speaking of ignoring complaints.
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Aug 8, 2014 15:08
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Got just two paragraphs in before my eyes just sliiiiiiiiiiiiiid off the screen. I think it was a Simpsons joke about an English guy or something, "You take forever to say nothing".
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Aug 8, 2014 15:11
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Snort. "And while I guess I sorta like Zak now, I came into this having no idea who he was, so it’s not some kind of personal loyalty thing." "You know what? I’ve had a 'run in' with Zak. I traded email with him. I disagreed with him about stuff. He was pretty civil, and I learned a lot from the conversation." I was thinking just the same level of dumb that led Seebs to think (say) that Bush wouldn't really try to restrict social freedoms, but nah, it's worse.
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Aug 8, 2014 15:22
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Aug 8, 2014 15:23
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Ettin posted:Who cares about some tumblr dumbass
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Aug 8, 2014 15:23
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What if he's a tumblr dumbass and a goon with bad opinions? That pertain to elfgames! I mean there's no helldumping in g.txt so
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Aug 8, 2014 15:32
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Ettin posted:Who cares about some tumblr dumbass The same people who care about Zak and Tarnowski. Us.
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Aug 8, 2014 15:43
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ProfessorCirno posted:What if he's a tumblr dumbass and a goon with bad opinions? That pertain to elfgames! TheLovablePlutonis posted:Good to see the Doxxnet working fast enough to find their names.
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Aug 8, 2014 15:45
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In the game room sits a grognard And a wizard by his sheet And he carries the reminders Of all the dice that did not crit And failed him till he cries out In his anger but no shame "I'm a caster, this is bullshit!" Yea, the catpiss still remains
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Aug 8, 2014 16:44
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Captain Foo posted:In the game room sits a grognard
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Aug 8, 2014 16:52
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Captain Foo posted:In the game room sits a grognard
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Aug 8, 2014 17:03
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Plutonis I like that your avatar makes you seem like a scrappy underdog because it makes you more humble and lovable.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:How do I join the Outrage Brigade? Everybody seems to be in on it but I can't find the recruitment office. Have you tried looking in your heart?
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