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Hieronymous Alloy posted:There's also "raised Republican in the South, has enough sense to not want to be associated with explicit racism." This is basically me. I was raised in ultra-conservative land in a church/school that used the A.C.E. curriculum and taught me such truths like how Apartheid was a good thing (because only taxpayers should vote) and gays should be stoned by the public lest God shower his wrath down upon America. In my early-mid 20's I had a strong Libertarian streak that eventually died out once I developed a conscience.
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Ballz posted:I still have my copy! That was the one! I have mine shrink wrapped around here somewhere. It was that and the Dinesh D'Souza "Obama's America" thing they were on about. The depressing thing was that I could tell they actually believed it all and that some people tried to get it out there (Rush, Hannity) but it all got squashed by the "liberal media" and no one ran with it since they're all in cahoots. "They've had this story since 2002!" Not sure, but I'm pretty sure they were about get "the vapors" or something close. It really ruined for me an already legendary and historically lovely lunch. I can't remember when I've had a combination of bad service and horrible food so expertly woven together but this overheard nonsense just added to the ambiance of the whole thing in a way that was like pouring mineral spirits onto an open blister. Bummed me right the gently caress out. In my younger days, I probably would have taken them on.
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BiggerBoat posted:This. AM radio was loving wasteland in the late 80's and early 90's until conservative radio and sports talk filled the void. The thing thing that pisses me off about it is the signal strength these motehrfuckers seem to have no matter where you go. I'll be road tripping somewhere listening to idiots talk about football or something and then I lose the the signal, scan the dial and no matter WHERE I am, there's always Rush, Sean, Savage, etc. or some church yelling at me to repent. I'm seriously curious if in some alternate universe a "liberal" version of Limbaugh could have ever been a legitimate thing? Alan Berg is kind of the type of guy I'm throwing out there for example. His career ended right as Limbaugh's took off. (Tragically I may add). Intel&Sebastian posted:I always got the sense that the "socially liberal" aspects weren't so much a smokescreen as it was someone being more intellectually honest about what "being conservative" means on those issues. Republicans "core values" logically lead to these things but they shut that door when they decided to let the Christian Right and everyones angry grandparents dictate social policy. My dad is kind of like that by definition and raised to think in that regard. He even admitted that the fundie nutjob type of things were just the party catering towards "The base". There's a really good documentary on how the GOP courted the evangelical types and vice versa. Literally the Christian Right was out there to gain power and influence in this country. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcRqMxzig1g Pretty much what happened is they didn't even fully like Reagan and Bush Senior. They hated Bush Sr. for example because he signed a law about discrimination against homosexuals or something of that nature. The end result was pretty much the W. Presidency.
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BiggerBoat posted:This. AM radio was loving wasteland in the late 80's and early 90's until conservative radio and sports talk filled the void. The thing thing that pisses me off about it is the signal strength these motehrfuckers seem to have no matter where you go. I'll be road tripping somewhere listening to idiots talk about football or something and then I lose the the signal, scan the dial and no matter WHERE I am, there's always Rush, Sean, Savage, etc. or some church yelling at me to repent. The reason Clear Channel and others have tried to move talk radio to FM, with varying degrees of success, is because AM is dying a slow death with anyone under the age of 50. Advertisers want people under the age of 49...that does not bode well for revenue. Only AM stations that do well in the major markets are the big 50,000 watters that have the signal to overcome the electrical noise and crappy radios most people have (think WBZ 1030, KDKA 1020, or WCBS 880). However, the demos still don't get better with political talk even on FM - thus CC finally giving up on 104.7 and going back to music (same thing happened with 96.9 in Boston with a different company). Crap programming is crap programming, no matter in FM stereo or AM mono at 5k. That alone gives me hope that we are headed for the end of this era of talk radio....but I doubt we will see anything better come along aside from public radio. Radio loves cheap syndicated programming instead of live and local, even if the latter gets better ratings than the former.
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BiggerBoat posted:This. AM radio was loving wasteland in the late 80's and early 90's until conservative radio and sports talk filled the void. The thing thing that pisses me off about it is the signal strength these motehrfuckers seem to have no matter where you go. I'll be road tripping somewhere listening to idiots talk about football or something and then I lose the the signal, scan the dial and no matter WHERE I am, there's always Rush, Sean, Savage, etc. or some church yelling at me to repent. Some of it has to do with this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear-channel_station That is where "Clear Channel Communications" got its name from. On a good night in Portland Oregon, I can pick up AM stations from San Francisco, Reno and up into Canada.
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bigtom posted:That alone gives me hope that we are headed for the end of this era of talk radio....but I doubt we will see anything better come along aside from public radio. Radio loves cheap syndicated programming instead of live and local, even if the latter gets better ratings than the former. But what else will I listen to while I drive? How else will I get the REAL story?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:She's 41 now, so she would have been roughly 17-19 when Nevermind was released, which is the right age for an album like that to imprint itself on your life. Not that this means anything, except it's kind of funny to see people who are of that timeframe showing signs of being doddering olds - such as evoking the coolest bands of two decades ago when I'm sure most kids seriously don't give a gently caress about rock and roll anymore. That dude is a pedophile who makes godawful music.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:A lot of people go through a libertarian phase on their way out of youthful conservative indoctrination, towards actual liberalism. Yeah, I can definitely back this one up. I think libertarianism initially drew me because I had this notion that small government meant everyone left everyone else alone to do their own thing and that few would use the lack of oversight to take advantage of others because most people are basically good, right? I pretty quickly caught on to how stupid that was.
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Pope Guilty posted:That dude is a pedophile who makes godawful music. A musician that has sex with underage fans and might be a dick? This dude has nothing on Motley Crue, although that was before social media and the shame brigade.
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Sir Tonk posted:A musician that has sex with underage fans and might be a dick? This dude has nothing on Motley Crue, although that was before social media and the shame brigade. Oh for the good old days of musicians loving children without consequence.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:She's 41 now, so she would have been roughly 17-19 when Nevermind was released, which is the right age for an album like that to imprint itself on your life. Not that this means anything, except it's kind of funny to see people who are of that timeframe showing signs of being doddering olds - such as evoking the coolest bands of two decades ago when I'm sure most kids seriously don't give a gently caress about rock and roll anymore. Every generation has it's share of poo poo music. Four years from now all of this bands fans will be as embarrassed of them as I am of Limp Bizkit.
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Nobody listens to Blood on the Dance Floor anymore you guys, that's some 2007 MySpace poo poo. Conservatism is Iggy Azalea, liberalism is Kanye West, libertarianism is Azealia Banks.
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There is some distinctly non poo poo music that is popular with the kids these days. It is perhaps irrational on my part, but I have a ton of hope for the information generation, especially when I dip my toes into their choices in art and music. I would argue that there are new forms of eclectic music that really would not have been able to attract an audience during my teenage days (Late 90's), and probably not even until the last 5-7 years. Two quick examples: An Acapella group that takes pains to not overly sexualize their only female member, has a beatboxing Cello player, and has a base vocalist that can also do overtone singing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F80FsZDTgn0 This song is a collab between a female vocalist from a hard rock band (Lizzy Hale) and a ballet dancing violinist (Lindsey Stirling), featuring a dubstep inspired talking bass and a video with Steampunk flavored visuals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tpIMDy9BE Whether you enjoy this music or not, I think we can all agree that it is not poo poo, and displays an eclectic nature that just simply would not have caught on in generations prior to this one.
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I haven't been paying much attention to right wing news lately, but have they caught wind of that restaurant owner in MN that line-itemed a "minimum wage fee" of .35 to everyone's bill yet?
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Listening to Limbaugh et al. bitch about OBAMA allowing ebola patients back into the US as being traitorous and purposefully targeted at threatening a pandemic in America. So far, this outbreak of ebola has killed about 1000 people. Typically in uncontrolled conditions in one of the least hospitable places on earth. He is threatening to destroy this country, of course. Last year 11,419 people died by the gun in the US. You loving CUNTS. gently caress.
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I can't watch the vid right now but when you have Dubstep and Steampunk in a description, "not poo poo" is a very heavy lift. Those are two things that are very rapidly showing their age in the zeitgeist. Also I have no idea where this derail started but it's pretty funny.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I can't watch the vid right now but when you have Dubstep and Steampunk in a description, "not poo poo" is a very heavy lift. Those are two things that are very rapidly showing their age in the zeitgeist. I'll take any excuse I can to annoy people with Blood On The Dance Floor videos. They are God Awful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ykA0-rPNo boner confessor fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Aug 9, 2014 |
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Prester John posted:There is some distinctly non poo poo music that is popular with the kids these days. It is perhaps irrational on my part, but I have a ton of hope for the information generation, especially when I dip my toes into their choices in art and music. I would argue that there are new forms of eclectic music that really would not have been able to attract an audience during my teenage days (Late 90's), and probably not even until the last 5-7 years. Two quick examples: In the words of John McEnroe, you cannot be serious.
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Prester John posted:An Acapella group that takes pains to not overly sexualize their only female member, has a beatboxing Cello player, and has a base vocalist that can also do overtone singing. These people sure do love wearing poo poo on their faces.
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Ideas that all millenials will be libertarian tends to come from the fact that most of the cohort hasn't graduated high school or at least college yet, and people assuming that since 19 year olds just read Ayn Rand for the first time they will be libertarians forever.
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Pope Guilty posted:That dude is a pedophile who makes godawful music. He plays too much Final Fantasy.
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Prester John posted:
Oooh, hey, I love Lizzy Hale. (To be fair, I was raised on Bon Jovi.) In return, some Steam Powered Giraffe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojYK6CW8gdw and some Abney Park. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjRGYE6brQY Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Aug 9, 2014 |
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If people are unironically posting Pentatonix and Steam Powered Giraffe then this thread has taken a dark turn. Someone ask Sean Hannity how he feels about the Pledge of Allegiance, we need new discussion material.
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The Conservative --> Libertarian --> Liberal transition describes me. I remember when I was a conservative I believed in legalized abortion since "Conservatives believe in less government and more freedom, so obviously it would make sense for conservatives to support legalized abortion!"  Whoops. Then, Libertarianism was a natural fit for me since all I knew of Liberal politics was strawmen and I was too socially liberal for conservatism.
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Hey, if someone likes steampunk music, that's certainly Steam Powered Giraffe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpJAmlnBxoA As I said, I grew up on Bon Jovi. I like Lizzy Hale. It's not complicated music, but it's fun. (Song: I Miss The Misery)
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Yes, it was. They're not my taste either. But I could have posted screamo. I will say I like Abney Park, though. It's eclectic, but has a good solid beat.
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Prester John posted:Whether you enjoy this music or not, I think we can all agree that it is not poo poo I'd rather hear the complete Galt Speech than a minute of that poo poo.
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Warcabbit posted:Yes, it was. They're not my taste either. But I could have posted screamo. It sounded like a fanfiction version of Bioshock music.
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Swan Oat posted:ITT we come to grips with the fact that we used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, and what we're with isn't it, and what is it seems weird and scary.
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Swan Oat posted:ITT we come to grips with the fact that we used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, and what we're with isn't it, and what is it seems weird and scary. It highlights that the things I loved as a teenager were generally just as horrible, but in a cooler way.
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FMguru posted:No, it is the children who are wrong. Remember when Limp Bizkit was popular? Rhesus Pieces posted:To get this thread back on the right-wing media track: Jeez Ailes be a little more subtle with your social engineering.
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Warcabbit posted:Yes, it was. They're not my taste either. But I could have posted screamo. I will say I like Abney Park, though. It's eclectic, but has a good solid beat. Screamo is literally 8 years old, it's not new in the slightest.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:There's also "raised Republican in the South, has enough sense to not want to be associated with explicit racism." Yeah, I think most kids raised in a red state go through a libertarian shitlord phase, myself included. A lot of us grow out of it when we leave the echo chamber and actually experience humanity, thankfully. edit: And Lindsey Stirling is amazing and I will hear nothing otherwise. The Rokstar fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Aug 9, 2014 |
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The Rokstar posted:Yeah, I think most kids raised in a red state go through a libertarian shitlord phase, myself included. A lot of us grow out of it when we leave the echo chamber and actually experience humanity, thankfully. This is my friend. Unfortunately despite being unemployed the past 8 months and living off the remainder of his student loans he hasn't changed his tune as much as I thought. He has started hating Bill O'Reilly which is a pretty big step I guess.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And I thought the internet held no more horrors. Why would you EVER think that?
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FMguru posted:No, it is the children who are wrong. Don't blame them, they were born after the culture went completely to poo poo. It's all they've come to expect.
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