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Batman/Superman isn't going to bomb in the least bit but if it did that would be awesome because gently caress DC.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:18
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NienNunb posted:Batman/Superman isn't going to bomb in the least bit but if it did that would be awesome because gently caress DC. DC has dick all to do with the movie. Outside of just owning the characters, the movie is all WB.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:25
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The Question IRL posted:And the other thing is, Warner Brothers did buckle on this point. You've got it backwards. Marvel first claimed the 5/6/16 date for a then-TBA film back in June of last year; it was WB that started the game of release-date chicken by overconfidently moving BvS to that date. Cap 3 opening on that date was also unofficially confirmed weeks before TWS opened, so I don't think Marvel was particularly worried about the latter bombing. (Incidentally, the official line from WB on this is that their "reconnaissance" suggested Marvel might not actually have a film ready for 5/6/16, but it seems improbably stupid that WB would actually believe that, so I suspect it's just PR spin.) Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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Aug 8, 2014 21:26
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I wish they called him Captain Marvel still, announced the movie under that name, and a month later Marvel announces its own Captain Marvel, for the same date, and neither company flinches.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:26
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NienNunb posted:Batman/Superman isn't going to bomb in the least bit but if it did that would be awesome because gently caress DC. It won't bomb, but there is a chance it could under perform. WB has shown that with under performing movies like Green Lantern, Golden Compass, and Superman Returns that they'll scrap a franchise if it doesn't get them the money they want.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:29
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zoux posted:BvS is going to slay at the box office, it's the two most iconic, popular superheroes in the world. Guardians of the Galaxy is going to fail, it doesn't have any popular superheroes in it. Also, while Batman is probably the most popular Superhero in the world, I'd guess Spider-man is more popular than Superman. And literally nobody here thinks it's going to bomb. The question is whether it will underperform. The Action Man posted:It won't bomb, but there is a chance it could under perform. WB has shown that with under performing movies like Green Lantern, Golden Compass, and Superman Returns that they'll scrap a franchise if it doesn't get them the money they want.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:30
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zoux posted:BvS is going to slay at the box office, it's the two most iconic, popular superheroes in the world. There's making a lot of money and then there's making so much money that the brand propels lesser properties into the record setting areas. Iron Man 1 and 2 went from a global take of around 600M each to a post-avengers IM3 take of 1.2B. Man of steel made money for WB but I'm betting they were kinda sad that it only made 670M global (less than 300 domestic) instead of the 1B that the DK movies made.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:32
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theflyingorc posted:Guardians of the Galaxy is going to fail, it doesn't have any popular superheroes in it. What's more, the definition of "underperform" depends on WB's expectations. They clearly want that Avengers money, which is why we're getting BvS: We Don't Need to Put "League" in the Subtitle in 2016 instead of Man of Steel 2. I'm not saying that they're necessarily expecting $1.5 billion worldwide out of it, but they might actually be less than thrilled with "only" $1 billion. In any event, I can't see BvS grossing any less than $750 million worldwide. Batman and Superman on screen together for the first time, plus what will no doubt be an absolutely massive marketing campaign, will guarantee that.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:36
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Barry Convex posted:In any event, I can't see BvS grossing any less than $750 million worldwide. Batman and Superman on screen together for the first time, plus what will no doubt be an absolutely massive marketing campaign, will guarantee that.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:43
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theflyingorc posted:Guardians of the Galaxy is going to fail, it doesn't have any popular superheroes in it. The saddest thing about Green Lantern was all the statements they released to the press talking about what they were going to do in the sequel. I just wish they had admitted up front that the franchise was DOA; the denial was like WB telling us that they didn't have a problem and they could start a franchise anytime they wanted to.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:45
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Shindragon posted:So should be the thread change be to American isn't Ready for a Black Dr. Strange? I'd answer this if I could parse this sentence.
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Aug 8, 2014 21:47
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Pretty much the only thing I didn't like about Guardians was the lack of the Nova Corps in the sense of flying around dudes with lazer hands. But it looks like they were considering RR-esque guys in the movie at one point, as some concept art of them has come out.
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Aug 8, 2014 22:10
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zoux posted:Pretty much the only thing I didn't like about Guardians was the lack of the Nova Corps in the sense of flying around dudes with lazer hands. But it looks like they were considering RR-esque guys in the movie at one point, as some concept art of them has come out. Nova was in an earlier version of the script. Gunn doesn't like him though, and took him out. That's the only thing I'm mad at Gunn for.
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Aug 8, 2014 22:21
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greatn posted:I wish they called him Captain Marvel still, announced the movie under that name, and a month later Marvel announces its own Captain Marvel, for the same date, and neither company flinches. If they did this and both movies were successful every movie from then on would be called Captain Marvel. Going to the movies would turn into a game of Russian Roulette.
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Aug 8, 2014 22:23
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The Action Man posted:It won't bomb, but there is a chance it could under perform. WB has shown that with under performing movies like Green Lantern, Golden Compass, and Superman Returns that they'll scrap a franchise if it doesn't get them the money they want. Having Chris Terrio onboard gives me hope that the writing in BvS will be tight, considering how good Argo was.
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Aug 8, 2014 22:24
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I don't know, I can kind of see why Nova isn't in the film. He's generally a really powerful character and the Guardians, while either highly skilled, enhanced, or super powered, aren't gently caress-off type of powers. I think having Nova in the film would have to deal with the question "Why doesn't he just Cosmic Power his way out of it and save the day?".
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Aug 8, 2014 22:26
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notthegoatseguy posted:I don't know, I can kind of see why Nova isn't in the film. He's generally a really powerful character and the Guardians, while either highly skilled, enhanced, or super powered, aren't gently caress-off type of powers. I think having Nova in the film would have to deal with the question "Why doesn't he just Cosmic Power his way out of it and save the day?". Oh I get it and all, it was just kinda lovely seeing the scrublord Nova Corps trying to catch a space ship in a suicide net.
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Aug 8, 2014 22:28
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notthegoatseguy posted:I don't know, I can kind of see why Nova isn't in the film. He's generally a really powerful character and the Guardians, while either highly skilled, enhanced, or super powered, aren't gently caress-off type of powers. I think having Nova in the film would have to deal with the question "Why doesn't he just Cosmic Power his way out of it and save the day?". Nova isn't really that powerful until all of Xandar is destroyed and he has to take the whole Nova Force and Worldmind in. They could have had him in a support role for the last battle.
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Aug 8, 2014 22:30
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The Action Man posted:The saddest thing about Green Lantern was all the statements they released to the press talking about what they were going to do in the sequel. It was even sadder when WB blamed its failure on not being enough like the Nolan Batfilms.
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Aug 8, 2014 23:04
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Barry Convex posted:It was even sadder when WB blamed its failure on not being enough like the Nolan Batfilms. Even sadder: then they made Man of Steel.
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Aug 8, 2014 23:07
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Even sadder: then they made Man of Steel. Well, MoS was well under way before WB had any GL box office numbers to react to, so I can't really lay the blame there. But as poor as GL was, I'd rather have have had it be the first film in a shared DCCU than MoS. At least it was going for the right tone for such an endeavor. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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Aug 8, 2014 23:11
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Barry Convex posted:It was even sadder when WB blamed its failure on not being enough like the Nolan Batfilms. Just the images in that article reminded me that they needed to make a move where it didn't look like Ryan Reynolds head was floating in the middle of a poorly rendered video game.
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Aug 8, 2014 23:16
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I'm not going to go look, but does CD love Ninja Turtles and Hate GotG they way I imagine they do? \/\/\/\/Thanks! Does SMG still post there? I'm not heading back until the answer is no. Soonmot fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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Aug 8, 2014 23:36
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Soonmot posted:I'm not going to go look, but does CD love Ninja Turtles and Hate GotG they way I imagine they do? CineD Ambassador here. Pretty much everyone there loves Guardians (as for me, I thought it was pretty good, but not as good as Cap 2). Pre-release anticipation was pretty evenly split on Turtles, with some insisting it'd be genius and some saying it looked like crap. Personally, I think it looks like crap. The few opinions I've read from people that have actually seen it were a resounding "meh."
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Aug 8, 2014 23:39
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The Guardians thread is honestly a bit obnoxious in how unwilling it is to discuss criticism. Soonmot posted:\/\/\/\/Thanks! Does SMG still post there? I'm not heading back until the answer is no.
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Aug 9, 2014 02:44
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Soonmot posted:\/\/\/\/Thanks! Does SMG still post there? I'm not heading back until the answer is no. Hahahahaha.
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Aug 9, 2014 02:47
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zoux posted:Pretty much the only thing I didn't like about Guardians was the lack of the Nova Corps in the sense of flying around dudes with lazer hands. But it looks like they were considering RR-esque guys in the movie at one point, as some concept art of them has come out.
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Aug 9, 2014 02:58
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Timeless Appeal posted:The Guardians thread is honestly a bit obnoxious in how unwilling it is to discuss criticism. No, I have him on ignore, but the constant quoting and dick sucking his posts gets derail every thread, making ignoring everyone who quotes him the same as not reading the forum. It's not that I even dislike that style of "here's a bizarre subtext in this film and here's why I believe this" post. It's just loving everywhere. And now I'm derailing BSS with this crap, so I guess I'm gonna shut up now.
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Aug 9, 2014 03:02
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achillesforever6 posted:Watching the final battle I could see why they went with the Nova Corp using ships since having them flying around with lazer hands would be pretty hectic to show on film. It would also really show up the guardians when there is an entire army of dudes who can fly, shoot lasers and have super strength. The kids in the audience would be going "Why isn't the movie about those guys??"
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Aug 9, 2014 06:26
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I'm guessing if Nova Corps do show up, they will have been created using the power of the Infinity Stone they now possess.
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Aug 9, 2014 06:42
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The Action Man posted:I had blocked out how much I hated Thanos farming at the end of the Infinity Gauntlet. Honestly, I hate the Infinity Gauntlet. I can't imagine Avengers 3 would be much of a critical success among the public if they made the Avengers look like a bunch of chumps in the first hour and the rest of the movie was just an hour and a half of Jim Starlin masturbating. Now making it based on the all-ages miniseries from a few years ago? That I'd see. We need US-Ace in the Cinematic Marvel Universe. Give Loki the Dr. Doom role.
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Aug 9, 2014 06:48
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Kinda weird to think that we could again have Captain Marvel be much more popular than Superman.
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Aug 9, 2014 07:12
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Gavok posted:Now making it based on the all-ages miniseries from a few years ago? That I'd see. We need US-Ace in the Cinematic Marvel Universe. Give Loki the Dr. Doom role. A scene where Loki makes everybody sandwiches would cause Tumblr to collapse in on itself.
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Aug 9, 2014 14:54
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Just came back from Guardians. Picked a weird time to watch it, like 10 people in the whole room. Ended up having to watch it in 3D because of the times 2D was available, but it was decent enough. Definitely surprised by the 'feel' of the film, I've never had much contact with Gunn's stuff other than watching a bit of Lollipop Chainsaw being played.
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Aug 9, 2014 17:11
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Also just got back from it, loved every minute of it.
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Aug 9, 2014 20:26
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Ditto. I'm pretty sure I enjoyed that more than star wars.
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Aug 9, 2014 21:09
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KoldPT posted:Just came back from Guardians. Picked a weird time to watch it, like 10 people in the whole room. Ended up having to watch it in 3D because of the times 2D was available, but it was decent enough. Go watch Slither.* That's pretty much the only reason I even know Gunn's name. * unfortunately it has Nathan Fillion in it but honestly it's a very good stupid horror film.
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Aug 9, 2014 23:00
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What's wrong with Nathan Fillion? And also watch Super. It's a great dark comedy. One of my favorite movies ever.
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Aug 9, 2014 23:21
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Crossposting from CD: Zach Snyder calling a Detroit radio station to defend the honor of Aquaman.
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Aug 10, 2014 00:59
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Well, as a fan of Aquaman I appreciate it. I just wish the argument didn't boil down to "No, actually he's super powerful and bad-rear end, for real!" Isn't being an undersea king who is good at fighting, tough and superstrong, and can command aquatic life enough? Do you really have to be like "Oh and he could beat up Superman, he's as strong as the Hulk, natch"
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