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I have knee problems. 3/4 blackbelts that I've trained under have knee problems (that I'm aware of).
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Judo is rough bjj is better but can still be bad. A lot of it is how hard you train, how aware you are of bad dynamics and luck/genetics.
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Aug 8, 2014 18:31
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My knees are about the only part of my body I haven't injured.
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Aug 8, 2014 19:16
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I don't train BJJ either, but I was wondering about the injuries as well. Obviously it's promoted as safer than contact martial arts, but a lot of top BJJ guys seem to have really hosed up backs which just sounds awful. Is that an inevitability of training, or are they so high level that theyre training at a crazy intensity most people wouldn't?
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Aug 8, 2014 19:33
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Seltzer posted:I don't train BJJ either, but I was wondering about the injuries as well. Obviously it's promoted as safer than contact martial arts, but a lot of top BJJ guys seem to have really hosed up backs which just sounds awful. Is that an inevitability of training, or are they so high level that theyre training at a crazy intensity most people wouldn't? A little of both. Again intensity, awareness of bad positions/movements and luck. There are 30 years of training black belts walking around like spring chickens and purple belts with 3 knee surgeries. Sitting on the couch will kill you too. I remind myself of that when I get anxious about the future.
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Aug 8, 2014 20:44
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I really need to get back into BJJ. I finally have a full-time job and it's a couple of blocks from Marcelo's, do I have any excuse?
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Aug 8, 2014 20:48
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Xguard86 posted:A little of both. Again intensity, awareness of bad positions/movements and luck. There are 30 years of training black belts walking around like spring chickens and purple belts with 3 knee surgeries. I work out and play soccer, I get that stuff has risks, I've just heard a lot about back issues in BJJ and wanted to know a bit more whether it was a thing only elite practitioners dealt with or a more common injury.
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Aug 8, 2014 20:49
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Do not forget that training is not a fight, and there is no shame in tapping. Your joints will thank you.
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Aug 8, 2014 22:24
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Seltzer posted:I work out and play soccer, I get that stuff has risks, I've just heard a lot about back issues in BJJ and wanted to know a bit more whether it was a thing only elite practitioners dealt with or a more common injury. Back injuries are pretty common in grappling. Higher intensity means higher risk but sometimes poo poo just happens. It also helps if the school isn't full of aggros that want to spar like every roll is a real fight.
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Aug 8, 2014 22:56
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Gregor Samsa posted:Do not forget that training is not a fight, and there is no shame in tapping. Your joints will thank you. I began bjj under Carlos Machado who's over 50 and very mobile. One thing he stresses is that bjj is about protecting yourself and a part of that means giving up position to keep yourself safe. So, if you're in a compromised guard, allow your opponent to pass and then escape instead of clinging to a bad position and risking injury. I think it's possible to train hard and stay in good condition if you put your safety first and winning second. It's also a better attitude in general.
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Aug 8, 2014 23:45
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Can Frank Mir please just do a Metamoris thing instead of getting continually punched to death? I love watching that dude grapple> Would he fare alright in this kind of format?
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Aug 9, 2014 07:26
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Pwny_Xpress posted:Can Frank Mir please just do a Metamoris thing instead of getting continually punched to death? I love watching that dude grapple> Depends who he was up against, but here's some cool Frank Mir grappling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dj5xMeXybs
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Aug 9, 2014 10:01
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Dangersim posted:Depends who he was up against, but here's some cool Frank Mir grappling: That was some cool skinny Roy Nelson grappling you mean.
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Aug 9, 2014 17:50
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Neeber posted:That was some cool skinny Roy Nelson grappling you mean. 
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Aug 9, 2014 19:42
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Master robero cyborg vs barnett at metamoris V? Lets loving goooooo
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Aug 12, 2014 13:06
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Saturday during the day, I was chilling at the IBJJF Chicago Open with my teammates (I didn't compete 'cause I am a lamer). The Chicago Open will attract the odd big name or two usually. This time we had Megaton Dias and Caio Motherfucking Terra. We saw Caio sitting by himself after his match and my pal Isaac decided to sneak behind him for some pictures. I took them and turned them into a picture book for the children called "Caio Terra Has No Friends." You can read it here: http://imgur.com/a/KRcqU
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Aug 12, 2014 16:42
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Aug 12, 2014 16:54
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Agreed
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Aug 13, 2014 17:03
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I still can't believe he subbed Lister
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Aug 14, 2014 01:17
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Probably a repost but here is a video of Josh Barnett owning a professional magic the gathering player at magic the gathering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zZzZzAuMfA At least I think he's a MtG pro, he's definitely a starcraft pro. I don't understand the game but I still enjoyed the video.
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Aug 14, 2014 12:28
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The Barnett/Lister match at Metamoris owned really hard. How much of an advantage really were Barnett's wrestling shoes? He seemed to be digging into the canvas really hard with them.
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Aug 14, 2014 12:43
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:The Barnett/Lister match at Metamoris owned really hard. How much of an advantage really were Barnett's wrestling shoes? He seemed to be digging into the canvas really hard with them. The announcer that fought said the floor wasn't slippery at all and he had no trouble with grip. I'm sure they gave him some grip, but I doubt it was match changing.
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Aug 14, 2014 13:12
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Mr. Nice! posted:The announcer that fought said the floor wasn't slippery at all and he had no trouble with grip. I'm sure they gave him some grip, but I doubt it was match changing. And it was also a risk to wear them against a grappler known for his excellent leglocks.
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Aug 14, 2014 14:05
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DekeThornton posted:And it was also a risk to wear them against a grappler known for his excellent leglocks. Well, obviously it wasn't since Lister didn't get anywhere near Barnett's feet.
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Aug 14, 2014 15:15
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Well, obviously it wasn't since Lister didn't get anywhere near Barnett's feet. Yeah, since Barnett was successful in implementing his gameplan. If he hadn't then his shoes could have turned out to be a serious mistake. In retrospect it turned out that he made the right choice, but it wasn't obvious beforehand.
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Aug 14, 2014 15:26
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Well, obviously it wasn't since Lister didn't get anywhere near Barnett's feet. That is not how risk works.
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Aug 14, 2014 15:31
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:Probably a repost but here is a video of Josh Barnett owning a professional magic the gathering player at magic the gathering He's not a Starcraft pro he's just a commentator who was good at Brood War. I know this because I'm a pathetic nerd.
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Aug 14, 2014 15:33
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DekeThornton posted:Yeah, since Barnett was successful in implementing his gameplan. If he hadn't then his shoes could have turned out to be a serious mistake. In retrospect it turned out that he made the right choice, but it wasn't obvious beforehand. Your phrasing makes it seem like he stumbled into all this. Barnett said "I have a plan to win" and he did.
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Aug 14, 2014 15:36
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Xguard86 posted:Your phrasing makes it seem like he stumbled into all this. Barnett said "I have a plan to win" and he did. I think he's making the point that if Dean had implemented his plan and gone to the positions where he has the advantage, then the shoes might've bit him in the rear end. Barnett put Dean where he wanted them. Before the match we all assumed it'd be the other way around.
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Aug 14, 2014 16:19
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Sprecherscrow posted:I think he's making the point that if Dean had implemented his plan and gone to the positions where he has the advantage, then the shoes might've bit him in the rear end. Barnett put Dean where he wanted them. Before the match we all assumed it'd be the other way around. Yeah, my point was that, from Barnett's perspective, Lister wasn't going anywhere near his feet so wearing the shoes was a no-brainer.
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Aug 14, 2014 16:43
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It's whatever man
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Aug 14, 2014 17:10
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Neurosis posted:I assume this is legal but don't really have any idea. What the hell makes you think this is legal?
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Aug 14, 2014 17:12
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Sprecherscrow posted:What the hell makes you think this is legal? I rephrase: I don't particularly care, but I took it down anyway. It's really easy to find so whatever.
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Aug 14, 2014 17:18
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Neurosis posted:I rephrase: I don't particularly care, but I took it down anyway. It's really easy to find so whatever. Sorry, it's just I know Ralek has spoken about it, and while he has no interest in going through the proper channels to get these things taken down he's really disappointed to see it all get uploaded within days of the event.
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Aug 14, 2014 17:20
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What was it I want in
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Aug 14, 2014 17:21
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origami posted:What was it I want in The entirety of Metamoris IV. You could go find it, it wouldn't be hard, or go buy it off their site if you would like to give them your money.
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Aug 14, 2014 17:30
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A group of us bought it but the stream quality was lacking for us unfortunately.
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Aug 14, 2014 18:11
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origami posted:A group of us bought it but the stream quality was lacking for us unfortunately. If you bought it, you can log back in and watch it any time for like 3 months or something.
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Josh Barnett did talk about the shoe issue in the pre-recorded bullshit. His point was something along the lines of leg defense is about not getting put into bad positions and knowing the counters, more so than relying on your foot being a bit more slippery. Like when people think of armbar defense it's about not having the arm isolated in the first place.
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