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ConfusedUs posted:You're crazy. The Rook was awesome. Reading that blurb really makes me want to read the rook again. There is something so nice about the letters from my dead self throughout the story.
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ConfusedUs posted:You're crazy. The Rook was awesome. Gibbering insane.
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It wasn't bad for a first novel very obviously written by someone who didn't know London or the UK at all. Is that damning it enough with faint praise for you?
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Wade Wilson posted:Not any more. When Dresden got it back in Cold Days he remarks about how Mab apparently had it fixed. AlphaDog posted:Pentagon shaped. Well poo poo, you're both right. I guess I just like the idea of someone doing Dresden cosplay with a beat to hell pentacle necklace with a superglued ruby in it (obviously a fake gem and some cheap necklace from amazon or something instead of that high priced one) Also I need to read The Rook it seems.
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ookiimarukochan posted:It wasn't bad for a first novel very obviously written by someone who didn't know London or the UK at all. As an American who doesn't know London or the UK at all, this didn't bother me at all.
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ookiimarukochan posted:It wasn't bad for a first novel very obviously written by someone who didn't know London or the UK at all. Is that damning it enough with faint praise for you? Yeah as much as I liked The Rook it wasn't set in real London. Not like the Laundry Files or the Rivers of London books are. Then again I've heard that Jim absolutely Butchers Chicago.
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Khizan posted:As an American who doesn't know London or the UK at all, this didn't bother me at all. This - If you don't know London or the UK then who cares!
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Masonity posted:Having just read the Laundry Files series (meaning I've now read all of the above) I'd probably rate the current Urban Fantasy as I would honestly put the first 2 or 3 books of The Watch series above The Dresden Files but it goes downhill so fast after that it's not even funny. I'm surprised by how consistent Jim is when writing dresden files, he's been constantly putting out one a year and there isn't a single book that can be considered terrible. Only starting to read the laundry files now but I like what I've seen so far
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Fellwenner posted:The movie version of Night Watch is terrible. Yea I imagine it went down something like the live action Dragon Ball movie.
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Fellwenner posted:The movie version of Night Watch is terrible. Is this that crazy Russian movie where I understood nothing and at some point a guy drives a sports car on the side of building.
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Logan 5 posted:Is this that crazy Russian movie where I understood nothing and at some point a guy drives a sports car on the side of building. I'm pretty sure that was the sequel, Day Watch. Which irritatingly was the second night watch story I think and not a day watch story at all. Each watch book is actually 3 novellas that link into one story kinda. And yeah if after Day Watch or even Twilight Watch) he had moved on and focused on another character the series would have worked better. That story about the two opposing watch members at the summer camp (was that the first day watch story? Pretty sure it's also the only non Anton story) was amazing. He isn't good at handling power bloat though. Edit: I wouldn't agree they become poo poo but it is the latter books that keep it below Dresden compared to the early ones. Masonity fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Finished all the Felix Castor books over a week's vacation and I loved them. I thought the premise was rather tame and I wasn't sure if the stories could anything new with them, but it surprised me with all the moral quandaries and where it went with them. Also loved how Raymond Chandler-esque it was and how the bad guys were just humans with human motivations. Then I got to the end and notice the last book was written in 2009. Did he just give up on writing them?
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Scorchy posted:Finished all the Felix Castor books over a week's vacation and I loved them. I thought the premise was rather tame and I wasn't sure if the stories could anything new with them, but it surprised me with all the moral quandaries and where it went with them. Also loved how Raymond Chandler-esque it was and how the bad guys were just humans with human motivations. Then I got to the end and notice the last book was written in 2009. Did he just give up on writing them? Did he get his gig as Hellblazer and/or Lucifer writer back? I don't follow comics that much, but they're written by the same guy. EDIT: He talks about everything he's involved in here back in January 2013: http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2013/01/mike-carey-i%E2%80%99m-not-fan-way-comics-have-been-ghettoised The linked article posted:You’ve also written a fantastic series of novels – the Felix Castor series. Could you extemporise a little on those? The sixth book is due out later this year I believe? Dude's pretty busy. Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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I gotta say I'm enjoying the Dresden Files series so far. "Storm Front" was passable. I skipped "Fool Moon", as per this thread's advice. "Grave Peril" was what showed me that this series has legs and "Summer Knight" is what made me a fan. Now I'm starting "Death Masks" and it's pretty fun so far. I'm curious, Is "Mean Streets" worth the whole price? I mean, how are the other authors outside of Butcher? Benny the Snake fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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I just finished Death Masks a few days ago, it was pretty good. Haven't started Blood Rites yet, though.
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Benny the Snake posted:I gotta say I'm enjoying the Dresden Files series so far. "Storm Front" was passable. I skipped "Fool Moon", as per this thread's advice. "Grave Peril" was what showed me that this series has legs and "Summer Knight" is what made me a fan. Now I'm starting "Death Masks" and it's pretty fun so far. All of his Dresden short stories (except for the last 2-3 years) are compiled in Side Jobs, so just get that if you want Dresden short stories. There are some real gems in there.
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ConfusedUs posted:All of his Dresden short stories (except for the last 2-3 years) are compiled in Side Jobs, so just get that if you want Dresden short stories. There are some real gems in there. Benny the Snake fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Benny the Snake posted:I'm aware, but I'm also interested in reading Mean Streets. Is it a good collection? There are some interesting stories in Mean Streets but I would suggest you read up to Changes before grabbing it. Edit: Im an edit and thought he was talking about the Anthology Side Jobs Exmond fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Mean Streets is not a particularly good anthology, imo, especially if you are hoping that the other stories in it will be Dresden-like. I'd just go straight for Side Jobs. But, yes, you should wait until after Changes to read Side Jobs; there are biiiiiig spoilers for later books in some of the short stories. EDIT: The Mean Streets short story could be read after Small Favor.
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Thanks to whoever recommended the Daniel Faust book on the previous page. At first I was shaking my head when the porn director was mentioned, but surprisingly, I really enjoyed it.
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Benny the Snake posted:I'm aware, but I'm also interested in reading Mean Streets. Is it a good collection? You should probably go ahead and acquire Side Jobs, but don't just plow through it. This seems to be the right reading order: http://dresdenfiles.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dresden_Files Also, I have Mean Streets and none of the other stories really stood out to me. If you have to read it I'd recommend making use of your library card instead of your credit card.
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Benny the Snake posted:I gotta say I'm enjoying the Dresden Files series so far. "Storm Front" was passable. I skipped "Fool Moon", as per this thread's advice. "Grave Peril" was what showed me that this series has legs and "Summer Knight" is what made me a fan. Now I'm starting "Death Masks" and it's pretty fun so far. I'm personally of the opinion that Fool Moon isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It's definitely one of the two weakest books in the series but there are some pretty great moments in it as well.
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Benny the Snake posted:I'm aware, but I'm also interested in reading Mean Streets. Is it a good collection? Mean Streets introduced me to Kat Richardson's Greywalker series, which I love but about which opinions vary. Her story and Butcher's are quite good. The other two are, at best, acquired tastes; I hated the Simon Green story and liked Tom Sniegoski's, but I'm not sure I'd recommend either in an objective sense. Pick this up used or hit the library, yeah.
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treeboy posted:I'm personally of the opinion that Fool Moon isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It's definitely one of the two weakest books in the series but there are some pretty great moments in it as well. Fool Moon has the terri-bad murphy character in it where she tries to arrest Harry in it. I get what the author was trying to do but it didn't make sense after the events of Storm Front. Edit: Dresden on a power trip was pretty funny. Exmond fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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treeboy posted:I'm personally of the opinion that Fool Moon isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It's definitely one of the two weakest books in the series but there are some pretty great moments in it as well. The problem with Fool Moon is that it's at the very beginning of the series. People who read Storm Front and think it had promise despite the annoyances get to the sequel where those same annoyances are dialed up to 11. That's where they stop reading. I encourage everyone who's a true fan of the series to read Fool Moon. But newbies can skip it to get to the good stuff if they're not convinced by Storm Front.
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Not gonna lie, I got into the series because the guy who recommended it to me emphasized the pun in the title of the second book.
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The flip side is if you enjoyed Storm Front, you will manage Fool Moon. I don't know why you would want to deprive yourself of more Dresden. Plus, it makes the resulting leap in quality in the latter books that much more impressive after you've read the first two books.
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I tried reading the Greywalker series. Couldn't make it through the first book, which was just unbearably slow. Does it pick up afterwards? I just started book 3 of the October Daye series and I'm liking it. The first two were pretty goddamn bleak, though, but this one started with scorpion tailed puppies and a child's birthday party so hopefully things are looking up. Minimal (and plot relevant) romance and gendered gaze is also nice. Why yes, the instant head-over-heels attraction the instant two people meet is an insidious glamour! This is Faerie, after all. Speaking of first person female lead urban fantasy, the Charlie Madigan series is pretty awful. Terrible prose, exposition bricks everywhere, a kid who sounds like an adult, and long passages with female gaze turned up to 11. The covers are pretty badass though, which is a shame. Exmond posted:Fool Moon has the terri-bad murphy character in it where she tries to arrest Harry in it. I get what the author was trying to do but it didn't make sense after the events of Storm Front. Mars4523 fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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In the last month and a half or so I've binge listened to all of the audio books and just got to Ghost Story. I absolutely love the series but I just can't get into John Glover, it's just not right. I'm so used to James Marsters mannerisms, inflections and accents that Glover's voice is pretty much irritating. I'm almost tempted to skip the it, read the wiki page about the book and start Cold Days. Would this be a bad idea?
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LoG posted:In the last month and a half or so I've binge listened to all of the audio books and just got to Ghost Story. I absolutely love the series but I just can't get into John Glover, it's just not right. I'm so used to James Marsters mannerisms, inflections and accents that Glover's voice is pretty much irritating. I'm almost tempted to skip the it, read the wiki page about the book and start Cold Days. Would this be a bad idea? This is a bad plan. Go to a library and place a hold on Ghost Story if you can't stand the dude's voice.
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Anias posted:This is a bad plan. I'd thought about it but I just don't have that much time to read and it would take me at least a month to get through it. I'll probably just power through.
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LoG posted:I'd thought about it but I just don't have that much time to read and it would take me at least a month to get through it. I'll probably just power through. It gets better, honestly. Just pretend that is his spooky ghost voice
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Mars4523 posted:I tried reading the Greywalker series. Couldn't make it through the first book, which was just unbearably slow. Does it pick up afterwards? No, it maintains the same pace and tone. The main character does grow from book to book and the metaplot progresses, but not nearly at the pace of Dresden. It keeps to the low-key detective format in pretty much every book. I personally enjoy them, but they're definitely not for everyone. Fellwenner fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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LoG posted:In the last month and a half or so I've binge listened to all of the audio books and just got to Ghost Story. I absolutely love the series but I just can't get into John Glover, it's just not right. I'm so used to James Marsters mannerisms, inflections and accents that Glover's voice is pretty much irritating. I'm almost tempted to skip the it, read the wiki page about the book and start Cold Days. Would this be a bad idea? The voice change grew on me as the book went on, and he actually does a decent job at the climax of the book. No matter what, he's still a better narrator than Wil Wheaton (who gets all of John Scalzi's books for some reason, which really bugs me--he was okay for Redshirts given what that book was about, but get someone better for his other books).
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Wade Wilson posted:Wil Wheaton (who gets all of John Scalzi's books for some reason, which really bugs me--he was okay for Redshirts given what that book was about, but get someone better for his other books).
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LoG posted:I set the speed in Audible to x1.50 and it's now tolerable. It's a bit chipmunkish but I can deal with that. drat. I wish I'd thought to do that. I really, really disliked Glover after 12 books of Marsters.
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