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Zeno-25 posted:Socially acceptable schizophrenia. I like the part where they claim Thundercats is evil because of Hinduism, and also where they claim Smurfette was created by a male Smurf transforming into female (which proves all the Smurfs are gay).
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Nintendo Kid posted:I like the part where they claim Thundercats is evil because of Hinduism, and also where they claim Smurfette was created by a male Smurf transforming into female (which proves all the Smurfs are gay). To be fair, we all wondered what the nightlife was like in there in Smurf village.
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harpomarxist posted:The most consistent conspiracy stuff I see on FB is 'Marxist' friends claiming that the shooting down of MH17 was a CIA false flag op. This also then gets tied up with NATO grand strategy stuff and of course, the defense of Putin as an anti imperialist fighter. Maybe we'll find out the CIA were behind it, in the meantime I don't want to see your globalresearch.ca links anymore bro.
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Section 31 posted:Russia Today is bastion of truth. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/18/another-russia-today-reporter-resigns-every-single-day-were-lying-and-finding-sexier-ways-to-do-it/ Indeed.
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twistedmentat posted:Is that the one where they did a bunch of experiments showing people what happened, but the CTs rebutted by saying "Yea, but that doesn't disprove my theory!". I watched one yesterday on Netflix by National Geographic where they did a test where they jammed 175 pounds of thermite against a steel beam, ignited it, and when it was done, it had done little to no damage to the steel. The truthers claimed that it wasn't accurate because 9/11 must have used a "super thermite" which Nat Geo didn't have access to.
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Davros1 posted:I watched one yesterday on Netflix by National Geographic where they did a test where they jammed 175 pounds of thermite against a steel beam, ignited it, and when it was done, it had done little to no damage to the steel. That's actually rather interesting. Did the National Geographic go through why that was the case? Thermite should definitely be able to get hot enough to seriously weaken the steel bean in theory.
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Munin posted:That's actually rather interesting. Did the National Geographic go through why that was the case? Thermite should definitely be able to get hot enough to seriously weaken the steel bean in theory. Not magic steel beans
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If only they had planted them before building the WTC, then there would've been a steel stalk there to hold the buildings up.
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I'm not sure if this counts as a conspiracy theory or just pseudoscience but the USGS had to issue a statement today that, contrary to rumor, Yellowstone is NOT being evacuated, roads in it ARE NOT being closed, and there's no sign of it erupting anywhere in the near future. Apparently an "alternative news site" has been fear mongering again. link
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platedlizard posted:I'm not sure if this counts as a conspiracy theory or just pseudoscience but the USGS had to issue a statement today that, contrary to rumor, Yellowstone is NOT being evacuated, roads in it ARE NOT being closed, and there's no sign of it erupting anywhere in the near future. Apparently an "alternative news site" has been fear mongering again. I was there a few weeks ago, and I was not bathed in hellfire. Though, at the time, there were multiple roads closed, unlike the one the USGS cites, which is just fuel for the loving nut jobs. While we were there, my wife's Facebook was blowing up with  THE ROADS ARE MELTING AND YELLOWSTONE IS OVERDUE FOR AN ERUPTION bullshit from people who really ought to know better.
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I wonder what the overlap between those people and the ones who take pictures of the stickers on the back of road signs is.
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Munin posted:That's actually rather interesting. Did the National Geographic go through why that was the case? Thermite should definitely be able to get hot enough to seriously weaken the steel bean in theory. Not having seen the clip in question, I would assume because you need some apparatus to concentrate the heat of the thermite directly against the beam rather than allowing it to dissipate into the surrounding environment. Normally you would place thermite on top of an object and let gravity concentrate the heat for you, which is difficult with a vertical structural member. If all you're trying to debunk is 'thermite cut the beams' that would be sufficient. The more advanced claim is that the beams were partially demolished already and rigged for destruction via explosives/thermite but for some reason truthers tend to shy away from the theory that requires lots of really obvious demolition work. It's my estimation that they assume the destructive devices were planted in anonymous duffel bags Tom Clancy-style.
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Davros1 posted:I watched one yesterday on Netflix by National Geographic where they did a test where they jammed 175 pounds of thermite against a steel beam, ignited it, and when it was done, it had done little to no damage to the steel. Well, the thing with thermite is you need to either lay it on the metal so gravity drives it down or find a way to contain it so it works in the direction you want. Kind of like getting an explosion to drive through armor. Just detonating some explosives isn't gonna do much, there's nothing to contain the blast in any spot so it just expands the easiest route. Place the explosives shaped by a containing cup of some sort and it will force the explosive pressure into the armor and through. Nothing beats the old chicken wire/fencing, concrete slab and kerosene. That will always be the height of physics stupidity. SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Munin posted:That's actually rather interesting. Did the National Geographic go through why that was the case? Thermite should definitely be able to get hot enough to seriously weaken the steel bean in theory. The problem I believe is that there's no way to properly focus the thermite, it just burns and spreads downwards with gravity. My brother is a truther and no amount of logic about the physics of how thermite works or how absurd an amount would need to have been covertly concealed in the building to bring it down will sway him.
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The dumbest thing about 9/11 truthers is that there was literally a nova documentary like 2 months after the towers collapsed explaining exactly why they failed structurally after being hit by planes. It was an exact engineering breakdown with basically no politics showing that they fell how they should have after being hit by planes.
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Cnidaria posted:The dumbest thing about 9/11 truthers is that there was literally a nova documentary like 2 months after the towers collapsed explaining exactly why they failed structurally after being hit by planes. It was an exact engineering breakdown with basically no politics showing that they fell how they should have after being hit by planes. It's just part of big brother's conspiracy, man. I swear if one of my relatives were a 9/11 nut I'd start sending tinfoil hats in the mail once a month just to piss'em off. I mean, my old man was into some stupid poo poo, but it never dropped down into JFK or 9/11 levels of insanity
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Hahaha, I was in a Facebook comment argument and someone linked Globalresearch.ca. When I called them on it, they linked a loving PressTV article as backup. For people who rail about government lies all the time, conspiracy theorists sure are willing to drink them up when it's a government saying a lie they want to be true. Oh poo poo globalresearch isn't on the level? Because my dad just emailed me these: http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-tests-u-s-nuclear-defenses-to-prepare-for-war/5395157 http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/pers-j30.html Along with a comment "just sharing this fine article. Can you say Cuban missile crisis?"
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SocketWrench posted:Well, the thing with thermite is you need to either lay it on the metal so gravity drives it down or find a way to contain it so it works in the direction you want. You obviously haven't seen the YouTube with a fat guy karate chopping a stack of plastic file trays.
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Execu-speak posted:My brother is a truther and no amount of logic about the physics of how thermite works or how absurd an amount would need to have been covertly concealed in the building to bring it down will sway him. It's like any conspiracy. You can't change their mind until they're ready, no evidence will ever suffice. Like with JFK. Seems like Oswald was the only shooter and there was no action on the grassy knoll, but no way in hell will most people accept it.
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Sir Tonk posted:Like with JFK. Seems like Oswald was the only shooter and there was no action on the grassy knoll, but no way in hell will most people accept it. Even if they did it's also never Oswald acting on his own - he was being paid off/brainwashed/etc by the Soviets or the Cubans or the Mafia or something.
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And Weird Al comes through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urglg3WimHA
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gradenko_2000 posted:Even if they did it's also never Oswald acting on his own - he was being paid off/brainwashed/etc by the Soviets or the Cubans or the Mafia or something. Clearly. http://www.theonion.com/articles/november-22-1963,10584/
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Cnidaria posted:The dumbest thing about 9/11 truthers is that there was literally a nova documentary like 2 months after the towers collapsed explaining exactly why they failed structurally after being hit by planes. It was an exact engineering breakdown with basically no politics showing that they fell how they should have after being hit by planes.
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SocketWrench posted:And Weird Al comes through It was posted a bit earlier but it's still equally amazing.
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"The government is hiding Giant Faces on Mars!  " - "Ancient Aliens", History (Channel)Seriously, this is basically mainstream Info Wars.
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ThirdPartyView posted:"The government is hiding Giant Faces on Mars! There's certain conspiracy theories I kind of wish were true. "The Face on Mars" is one of them. I know it's bullshit, I know it's the work of shadows, but how amazing would such a thing be if it were in fact remotely true? Really a lot of space based conspiracy theories are pretty interesting. The lone exception? "DA MOON LANDING WAS FIXED!!!!!!!!!" Boring, and not even remotely interesting to give a read to. e: Example? "Lost Cosmonauts" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cosmonauts Cnidaria posted:The dumbest thing about 9/11 truthers is that there was literally a nova documentary like 2 months after the towers collapsed explaining exactly why they failed structurally after being hit by planes. It was an exact engineering breakdown with basically no politics showing that they fell how they should have after being hit by planes. "Hey, uh you should try to read this popular mechanics special on why the towers fell. It was written with the help of engineers, architects, and..." "YOU SHUT UP RIGHT NOW! THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION FUNDED THAT MAGAZINE, THUS IT'S A COVER UP!" I've literally stumbled upon that reaction several times.
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I think by far the dumbest 9/11-related thing I heard was from a supervisor at a place where I was doing odd jobs. He said that he had watched a documentary that proved that Bush set up the strike on the World Trade Towers so he could get at some gold that was hidden under the base of one of the structures. As crappy a president Bush was, I refuse to believe that he was puppy-kickingly evil as to throw away hundreds of American lives just to make a grab at someone's gold. That's besides all the other ridiculous stuff (stealing is illegal, attacking the towers above ground to get at the base/foundation, storing gold underground like goblins from a fantasy novel, etc.)
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Seventh Arrow posted:I think by far the dumbest 9/11-related thing I heard was from a supervisor at a place where I was doing odd jobs. He said that he had watched a documentary that proved that Bush set up the strike on the World Trade Towers so he could get at some gold that was hidden under the base of one of the structures. As crappy a president Bush was, I refuse to believe that he was puppy-kickingly evil as to throw away hundreds of American lives just to make a grab at someone's gold. That's besides all the other ridiculous stuff (stealing is illegal, attacking the towers above ground to get at the base/foundation, storing gold underground like goblins from a fantasy novel, etc.) Gold was stored under the WTC - at building 4, the low rise building that housed the New York Board of Trade (a set of commodities market trading floors and associated offices), Deutsche Bank (obivously, a major bank) and the main entrance to the WTC mall concourse. They weren't secret vaults though, just ones where you needed a good reason to be on that floor. It wasn't very much gold though! And even after the twin towers and collapsed and WTC 7 caught fire and burned, 4 WTC was actually still standing pretty much ok. It was only 9 stories tall, and it was the southeast corner of the WTC site which put it about as far from any damage as you could get in the WTC complex. It was damaged beyond repair with a honking huge hole in the roof and going out a top floor after the twin towers collapsed and the occupants had been evacuated. So yes, they did store gold at the WTC, but it was under the building that was intact and standing structurally sound after 9/11 happened. So if Bush really did want to rob the vaults, he hosed up his targeting big time. Interestingly, the replacement tower for 4 WTC? A whole loving 74 stories tall. Now that's an upgrade from 9 (and I assume part of ensuring that the replacement facilities all around can hold about the same amount of office and retail leasable space as on 9/10/01)!
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Yeah, I think he was under the impression that it was just a hollowed-out pile o' coins, Smaug-style.
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Seventh Arrow posted:Yeah, I think he was under the impression that it was just a hollowed-out pile o' coins, Smaug-style. Yeah that's at several buildings on and near Wall Street that together are holding gold reserves under the administration of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, with the actual owners being something like 60 countries including the US.
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If Bush was really after gold, why wouldn't he target Fort Knox and the base nearby instead? Surely that would be more worth the lives, effort, and cost than to take some piddly stashes from somewhere in New York with the most witnesses being the most populated city in the US
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It makes total sense to destroy a building and steal all of the very heavy gold out of the basement in the nick of time rather than a scheme that, you know, doesn't involve creating a massive catastrophe directly over your target. Bank robbers are well known for completely destroying the bank with explosives after they rob it, to remove evidence.
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I think a better question is why the goddamn president of the United States would need to orchestrate such a ridiculous and risky plot for what is basically a robbery, whose costs would greatly exceed the worth of the gold he was stealing. Wouldn't standard corruption, bribery, etc be much easier for someone with that amount of power to do?
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ponzicar posted:I think a better question is why the goddamn president of the United States would need to orchestrate such a ridiculous and risky plot for what is basically a robbery, whose costs would greatly exceed the worth of the gold he was stealing. Wouldn't standard corruption, bribery, etc be much easier for someone with that amount of power to do? Turns out people have serious trouble visualizing the amount of perfectly legal bribe money that goes through political coffers. A giant  is a lot simpler and isn't unknown in popular media.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:It makes total sense to destroy a building and steal all of the very heavy gold out of the basement in the nick of time rather than a scheme that, you know, doesn't involve creating a massive catastrophe directly over your target. Bank robbers are well known for completely destroying the bank with explosives after they rob it, to remove evidence. Not to mention the fact that carrying out the most spectacular terrorist attack in history would attract every single police officer in the city to the scene, which is exactly what you want when you're trying to pull off a heist.
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watho posted:It was posted a bit earlier but it's still equally amazing. Indeed it was, but a time to look at the latest top comments! quote:More proof Weird Al is a puppet for the ILLUMINATI he released 8 videos in 7 days the number 3 and 4 coupled together is a mystical number representing his ties to the Freemasons. This is why the letter "G" is the 7th letter of the alphabet and is displayed in the temple square of the ILLUMINATI - Weird Al is 54 years old, there's 5 points on a pentagram with 4 points reflecting downwards, that is his tribute to Lucifer and his followers. None of his videos are funny which is another tribute to the all seeing owl. The all seeing owl has an inverted hairline which shockingly resembles Weird Al's unusual resemblance of a woman. Uses of the number 6 pop up numerous times in this video, it is a signal of Weird Al transitioning from a born man to becoming a whore of the Devil. He wants to look like a woman to confuse the masses. Wake up world. And if you still don't believe me I have proof on my channel that Weird Al is a puppetless soul on the chessboard of the Kings of Seeds. Actually, that's just clickbait. Nothing in the Top Comments I could find was really anything about the Illumnati being real. That somehow makes me feel good. 
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Nintendo Kid posted:So if Bush really did want to rob the vaults, he hosed up his targeting big time. Well, poo poo, that is his MO.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Not to mention the fact that carrying out the most spectacular terrorist attack in history would attract every single police officer in the city to the scene, which is exactly what you want when you're trying to pull off a heist. It's like no one has seen Die Hard: With A Vengeance.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Yeah that's at several buildings on and near Wall Street that together are holding gold reserves under the administration of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, with the actual owners being something like 60 countries including the US. Rhesus Pieces posted:Not to mention the fact that carrying out the most spectacular terrorist attack in history would attract every single police officer in the city to the scene, which is exactly what you want when you're trying to pull off a heist. How has no-one put THESE two and two together yet?
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