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Now that I've finally moved my bigass empire away from gavelkind, I can start putting together a demesne that can be passed on to successors. What's the strategy for building a good demesne? Does it matter if my capital county is within one of my two duchies? Should I own all the counties within those two duchies, or cherry pick the richest counties from around the empire?
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Aug 9, 2014 18:42
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I reloaded and my son is back on the list all is good. Also drat you Dr.Sunshine drat you. But my loving wife had another set of twins!  I have 6 loving pairs of twins. I checked my Dynasty list and I have more members then the Karlings. It's an old Gods start and Haldar Is my first Character how is this possible? There are 12 factions that are X for Scandinavian. And Apparently there is more then one Black Viking in Goa because a second one is raising an adventure army to push his Claim. The Kings of Norway, Finland and Germany have all married some kind of relative, but when one of my brats came of age I realized there are no eligible women left that aren't related. My family has already married them. Also who the hell is Ika, why does she call me Great Grandpa and why is the Pope asking for a random, we haven't been at war for 2 decades now.On other Family matters I've only had ten members die. 3 children at young ages. 1 of my daughters died while having sex that got too passionate, 2 more in wars. But my 3 eldest sons all died in personal duels. To he same son my fifth son, and he won't stop challenging me now. I think he is trying to off me seeing as he has been waiting 60 some years for me to die. Well it won't get you the crown Bejorn Haldarson, You will stay Jarl of Finland and like it!
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Aug 9, 2014 18:44
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Aug 9, 2014 19:26
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There comes a point when there's too much immersion.
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Aug 9, 2014 19:36
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Parallax Scroll posted:Now that I've finally moved my bigass empire away from gavelkind, I can start putting together a demesne that can be passed on to successors. What's the strategy for building a good demesne? Does it matter if my capital county is within one of my two duchies? Should I own all the counties within those two duchies, or cherry pick the richest counties from around the empire? Generally you want to concentrate on a small number of counties where you hold as many castles as possible (as well as cities if you're Republican or Temples if you're Muslim - Muslim Republics can hold all three holdings without penalties) so that you can gain the maximum bonus from your Marshal's and Steward's +Levies and +Taxes respectively. I'd expect for relations reasons you'd want your capital county to be within a duchy you own, otherwise anyone who holds your capital's duchy will have -25 "Desires the County of Wherever" because they want their de jure borders.
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Aug 9, 2014 21:00
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Mister Adequate posted:Generally you want to concentrate on a small number of counties where you hold as many castles as possible (as well as cities if you're Republican or Temples if you're Muslim - Muslim Republics can hold all three holdings without penalties) so that you can gain the maximum bonus from your Marshal's and Steward's +Levies and +Taxes respectively. I'd expect for relations reasons you'd want your capital county to be within a duchy you own, otherwise anyone who holds your capital's duchy will have -25 "Desires the County of Wherever" because they want their de jure borders. How do the marshal and steward bonuses work? Owning more castles affects that?
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Aug 9, 2014 21:14
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Parallax Scroll posted:How do the marshal and steward bonuses work? Owning more castles affects that? Their bonuses affect every holding you own within whatever county you place them in, so you ideally want as many right-type holdings in your capital as you can get, yes
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Aug 9, 2014 21:24
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Parallax Scroll posted:How do the marshal and steward bonuses work? Owning more castles affects that? They apply to a county, so if you have two or more holdings in that County, the councillor bonus applies to all of them instead of just one. Makes a big difference and let's you raise some huge levies with well developed castles. Kiev in my current game can raise ten thousand guys on its own.
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Aug 9, 2014 21:25
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Captain Oblivious posted:But...how? I don't know. 75 years later the rest of France fell to the Muslihiddin Caliphate (the Umayyads fell about a hundred years ago) which stretches from Mauritania to the Seine. The Pope's primary title is King-Bishop of France so the Papacy is a one-province minor called France centered on Rome.  Also Byzantium is Catholic. There is one Orthodox duchy left in the world. It's run by a 27-year-old 0/15/12/18 Serbian. In the Duchy of Bosnia. In the de jure Kingdom of Croatia. I might need to watch the AI tear my empire apart and switch over to this guy. Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 00:18
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We've been working hard on the mod, fixing bugs, adding more characters, and adding more flavor. Rust Cultists now have unique titles, based on capitalism for feudal rulers, factories and unions for republics, and railroads for temples. Because I'm not a big fan of "Prince-Bishop", religious rulers are now Canon/Canoness, Metropolitan, Exarch, and Primarch. Titular Empires are in for every culture (except Caribbean and Southern, which already have empires) and are creatable by anyone who has that culture and 100+ holdings. We need coats of arms for the new empires. Most good nation/state/city/diocese flags are already in use. I'd be very grateful if someone could find or create flags for: - Delawarean (Delaware/Baltimore/Philly) - Lacustrine (Michigan/Ontario) - Yooper - Dellsman (Wisconsin) - Dominican Sam. fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 01:59
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Sam. posted:- Chicagoan Maybe the University of Chicago seal?  or  Lose the book and it basically matches the simplified seals used for eagle flag empires in CK2. A phoenix seems appropriate given the Great Chicago Fire/post-apocalypse, too.
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Aug 10, 2014 03:57
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Goddammit, Karlings Now it's time for me to get beat up by Seljuk.
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Aug 10, 2014 04:08
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I hope there is a titular Queen of Welfare.
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Aug 10, 2014 04:17
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Chevalier Cat posted:Maybe the University of Chicago seal? That's really good. Thank you very much.
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Aug 10, 2014 05:00
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That America mod looks so good.
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Aug 10, 2014 05:04
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Haitian coat of arms for a brief period in the 19th century:
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Aug 10, 2014 05:32
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DrSunshine posted:It would be really nice to have someone around to help with adding new provinces and so forth. 
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Aug 10, 2014 06:01
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DrSunshine posted:Another day another fix. I was playing around with the Zakrum-Marza over on the western continent and they have some weird issues going on with stuff switching over to Agnatic (although it doesn't look like it's constantly switching to Gavalkind anymore so there's that,) as well as husbands asking you for land which I don't think is intended. Edit: looks like it's switching over to Agnatic on inheritence for whatever reason. reignonyourparade fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 06:41
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Sam. posted:We've been working hard on the mod, fixing bugs, adding more characters, and adding more flavor. Rust Cultists now have unique titles, based on capitalism for feudal rulers, factories and unions for republics, and railroads for temples. Because I'm not a big fan of "Prince-Bishop", religious rulers are now Canon/Canoness, Metropolitan, Exarch, and Primarch. Here's one I made for the Gothamites... 
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Aug 10, 2014 07:49
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Ah drat, Glorious Serbia falls to the Byzantines within a decade and there's nothing I can do. Oh well, seeing that it somehow became Elective succession I joined the Empire and now my plan is to fifth column my way into making it Orthodox again. I haven't played much Byzantium. I just won a revolt to bring it down to medium authority so no wars on other vassals until I can knock it down again. I've got 6 daughters so I guess it's time to get all stabby stabby.
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Aug 10, 2014 08:33
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Welp, I made the terrible mistake of getting Ireland involved in a Holy War in Finland. loving Pagans have 2k+ siege defenders in provinces that can only feed like 700 soldiers, and on top of that my ally the King of Sweden has been getting his rear end kicked in combat when he's had like 2x size advantages.
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Aug 10, 2014 12:45
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reignonyourparade posted:I was playing around with the Zakrum-Marza over on the western continent and they have some weird issues going on with stuff switching over to Agnatic (although it doesn't look like it's constantly switching to Gavalkind anymore so there's that,) as well as husbands asking you for land which I don't think is intended.  Well, I know what to start looking at for the next update, then.
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Aug 10, 2014 14:04
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Ugh, I had a great heir with Genius + Strong going. 15+ in all attributes and 25 martial. He hits 14 years old - Bam, Homosexual trait. Ah well, that's not too bad, I can work around that -15% fertility modifier. Forward two years - he hits 16 years old, immediately gets chaste, then two months later gets great Pox. He's now sitting at 5% fertility. Paradoooooooox!
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Aug 10, 2014 14:09
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So what exactly determines whether or not a duchy will drift into another de jure kingdom? I thought you had to own every single holding belonging to that duchy, the duchy title itself and not hold the kingdom it is currently part of. But there must be something else, as I successfully assimilated Provence into Italy, but Carinthia isn't assimilating at all, and neither are any of the island duchies I have taken (Mallorca, Crete, and Cyprus). I know there is a special exception for the kingdom of Jerusalem, was that extended to others as well? Or is it because I hold multiple kingdoms / an empire?
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Aug 10, 2014 15:33
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650 pages. I'm going to read that, so I'll just ask, do we have multiplayer campaigns at all? It'd be pretty awesome to ride a monster truck straight trough history right into WWII+n and start nuking each other. HOI5 would be just about ready by the time we'd be finished with EU4 and Victoria 3. Re-establishing the Roman empire as the house von Heisenberg was fun and all but now it's starting to get a bit tedious.  Well I say that, there's going to be a massive civil war or two in the next few years that I am NOT looking forward to. 
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Aug 10, 2014 15:40
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Oh boy, I finally played a single game long enough to see the warnings for the Aztecs showing up. I wonder if I can manage to beat them with a 17.5k retuine, a 40k vassal levy, a 20k personal levy, and all 5 holy orders (4 of which are vassals) that exist at this point in the game. Maybe I can marry a girl or two off to the HRE in time.
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Aug 10, 2014 15:43
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Larry Parrish posted:Oh boy, I finally played a single game long enough to see the warnings for the Aztecs showing up. I wonder if I can manage to beat them with a 17.5k retuine, a 40k vassal levy, a 20k personal levy, and all 5 holy orders (4 of which are vassals) that exist at this point in the game. Probably not. I mean they are like Mongols on steroids and you aren't meant to beat them in a straight fight, but by all means throw everything you have at their bullshit stacks and grind them down so you can eventually take back what is yours.
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Aug 10, 2014 15:46
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Probably not. I mean they are like Mongols on steroids and you aren't meant to beat them in a straight fight, but by all means throw everything you have at their bullshit stacks and grind them down so you can eventually take back what is yours.  Oh well. I suppose that in worst-case scenario, I'll still have roughly half a century to take back my holdings before the game ends. Maybe I should pull the Roman technique and just move the capital over to somewhere in Norway.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:02
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Probably not. I mean they are like Mongols on steroids and you aren't meant to beat them in a straight fight, but by all means throw everything you have at their bullshit stacks and grind them down so you can eventually take back what is yours. It might be possible, since unlike the Mongols, the Aztec armies consist mostly of light infantry and archers. With some opportunistic use of defensive bonuses, and some acceptable losses here and there, he could edge out a victory with that. The aztec armies sometimes split up to siege multiple holdings at the same time, if he manages to get one of the edge stacks to attack his army, he could grind them down like that. Remember that their event troops do not resupply.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:02
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Broken Cog posted:It might be possible, since unlike the Mongols, the Aztec armies consist mostly of light infantry and archers. With some opportunistic use of defensive bonuses, and some acceptable losses here and there, he could edge out a victory with that. Yeah maybe, but he has like 50k troops to work with which probably isn't enough to mobilise in time to prevent warscore from going past 100% from sieging. And then on top of that he still has to win.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:12
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Man I made a merchant republic in the Galician duchy, but I only gave the dude 1 county. Now he hates me because I didn't give him the second county in the duchy, but I can't do it because of the 10 percent limit. He's going to have like a permanent -50 from that and the wrong government type until I can double my realm to give him that one county.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:22
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WAMPA_STOMPA posted:Man I made a merchant republic in the Galician duchy, but I only gave the dude 1 county. Now he hates me because I didn't give him the second county in the duchy, but I can't do it because of the 10 percent limit. He's going to have like a permanent -50 from that and the wrong government type until I can double my realm to give him that one county. you can give that other county to a vassal of yours and then transfer vassalage
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Aug 10, 2014 16:24
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Holy gently caress the Aztecs are a nightmare. I have no clue how I am going to handle this well, especially considering the whole Iberian peninsula decided now was a great time for smallpox. Apparently the Aztecs don't get attrition.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:25
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WAMPA_STOMPA posted:Man I made a merchant republic in the Galician duchy, but I only gave the dude 1 county. Now he hates me because I didn't give him the second county in the duchy, but I can't do it because of the 10 percent limit. He's going to have like a permanent -50 from that and the wrong government type until I can double my realm to give him that one county. Press "~", then type in "charinfo". Hover your cursor over that guy's portrait and then take note of his id. Then type in "give_title c_thecountyname his-id-mumber"
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Aug 10, 2014 16:28
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WAMPA_STOMPA posted:Man I made a merchant republic in the Galician duchy, but I only gave the dude 1 county. Now he hates me because I didn't give him the second county in the duchy, but I can't do it because of the 10 percent limit. He's going to have like a permanent -50 from that and the wrong government type until I can double my realm to give him that one county. I don't know of if this is the pro strategy for this but I typically just find a random courtier to give the second county to and then transfer vassalage to the republic.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:36
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Entropia posted:650 pages. I'm going to read that, so I'll just ask, do we have multiplayer campaigns at all? It'd be pretty awesome to ride a monster truck straight trough history right into WWII+n and start nuking each other. HOI5 would be just about ready by the time we'd be finished with EU4 and Victoria 3. You need to get rid of your King vassals and breed for vassal opinion then. When you have an Empire that large, you can either micromanage kings, and have to work hard to make sure you have kings holding large areas, or you can make sure all your Emperors are likeable, by being on Elective, selecting only Born in the Purple as heirs, and educate all your heirs for maximal diplomacy and all the nice trait like Just. If you want to try something weird, conquer enough Indian provinces to change your capital to a Jain one, so you can convert. Unless your vassals are zealous, you'll still come out with a net positive opinion from being Jain.
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Aug 10, 2014 16:42
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I got a big enough faction to revolt for Byzantine lower crown authority, declared my revolution, and got an event saying people have flocked to my banner and giving me an extra 20k stack to go with my 17k revolter vassal army. I guess they really don't like the Basilissa 
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Aug 10, 2014 16:47
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Broken Cog posted:Ugh, I had a great heir with Genius + Strong going. 15+ in all attributes and 25 martial. After a couple hundred hours of gameplay I'm about 93% sure the game is rigged to constantly cull geniuses from the world (probably because the designers knew full well players would do everything possible to set up eugenics programs). They pick up Chaste far more often than normals, and they get sick and die more often than normals even when there's nothing wrong with their natural Health score. I assume there must be some kind of soft cap on how many geniuses are allowed in one holding/court/dynasty before incurring hidden penalties to health and/or increased chance of picking up undesirable traits. And the game doesn't say there's a Fertility penalty to the Genius trait, but it sure does seem like their natural Fertility score trends low (I've noticed this for Attractive as well). I guess it could just be a bad run of luck, but the more I play the more dubious that possibility looks. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 16:50
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Edison was a dick posted:You need to get rid of your King vassals and breed for vassal opinion then.  Yeah I was planning on that, but then the inevitable happened.  Immidietly after gaining the throne as a 22-year-old, Sigismund, the grandson of Constantine the Glorious, the restorer of Imperium Romanum, and the son of Isaakios the Great, who reclaimed Iberia and Marocco and pushed the borders of Rome beyond the river Tiber, was confronted with an Empire that hated his guts for one reason or another. Harsh taxation to everyone might've had something to do with it. Also some idiots wanted his genius brother on the throne. Well, it all ended well enough. Having 38 thousand heavy cavalry and horse archers as a retinue probably helped a lot. And now the prisons are full of Despots and I can start chopping some kingdoms apart. The -50 to de jure vassal opinion is going to be a bitch I suppose but oh well. Just gotta confiscate every singly duchy as well. Damascus somehow gained independence afterwards. Idk, man. At least the heir is my vassal and dynasty member. Just gotta remember not to chop his head off before he can inherit.   I have myself to blame for this eventual outcome I guess. Having kings as vassals was an easy way to get 10k troops in a single province border when Phokas, Constantine and Isaakios were fighting their wars of reconquest. Though I have to admit that them breeding like rabbits might have created some problems too...  412 living members, eh. Well, the pope and every single cardinal have been a von Heisenbergs for as long as anyone can remember.
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Entropia posted:Though I have to admit that them breeding like rabbits might have created some problems too... 412 living Heisenbergs? Christ, how do you know where they all are and what they're doing at any given time?
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