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9031 | 65.25% |
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1191 | 8.60% |
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808 | 5.84% |
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| Waluigi |
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1603 | 11.58% |
| Waa |
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748 | 5.40% |
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One thing to note is despite complaints along the lines of "this game has Mario in it that means it's the same as every other Mario game!" from people who don't actually play those games, Nintendo actually does keep trying new things while also trying to appeal to their existing fanbase. That's why I'm glad we get multiple series like NSMB, Galaxy and 3D Land/World, because despite them all being Mario platformers they're all different kinds of Mario platformers. This applies to the RPGs as well. Super Mario RPG was a traditional turn-based RPG from Square, and the first two Paper Mario games added unique mechanics and gameplay to the traditional RPG style. The GBA/DS RPGs Superstar Saga, Partners in Time, Bowser's Inside Story (guy who hasn't played this one: it's the best one from this series, play it now), and Dream Team were similar where they established their own unique takes on a turn-based RPG. The black sheep of Mario RPGs, Super Paper Mario and Sticker Star, both tried to diverge from the turn-based RPG style while still obstinately carrying the Paper Mario name. Super Paper Mario is more of a platformer / RPG hybrid, and Sticker Star is more like an Adventure Game with RPG elements (like other people pointed out in the thread). I still think they're both fine games and I'd definitely encourage people to play through them once, but it's understandable that they didn't meet people's expectations for games in the genre. It's like if you were expecting Super Mario Bros. 3 and got Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA) - it doesn't mean Super Mario Bros. 2 is bad, but it's not what you wanted.
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Aug 10, 2014 18:48
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Neddy Seagoon posted:No, please, not the Secret levels again! I'll be good, I promise! The secret levels were easily my favorite Mario experience of all time and I would absolutely love to have an entire game of it
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Aug 10, 2014 18:53
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signalnoise posted:The secret levels were easily my favorite Mario experience of all time and I would absolutely love to have an entire game of it You got it, it's called Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2.
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Aug 10, 2014 19:13
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CatsPajamas posted:The black sheep of Mario RPGs, Super Paper Mario and Sticker Star, both tried to diverge from the turn-based RPG style while still obstinately carrying the Paper Mario name. Super Paper Mario is more of a platformer / RPG hybrid, and Sticker Star is more like an Adventure Game with RPG elements (like other people pointed out in the thread). I still think they're both fine games and I'd definitely encourage people to play through them once, but it's understandable that they didn't meet people's expectations for games in the genre. It's like if you were expecting Super Mario Bros. 3 and got Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA) - it doesn't mean Super Mario Bros. 2 is bad, but it's not what you wanted. I'm glad they've decided to make the Paper Mario series more of their weird experimental series much like how Kirby games get the occasional weird title. Even if they aren't as good as I think they could've been due to some expectation of the series needing RPG elements, at least they're trying new things with it. It probably didn't help that having both the Paper Mario AND Mario & Luigi sub-series as RPGs didn't make too much sense.
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Aug 10, 2014 19:14
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Probe 17 posted:No, but you see, back in MIYAMOTO'S DAY you didn't NEED any gol-durn story! There was just a princess and some big monster and by gosh you needed to kill it! None-a this "interesting backstory" stuff you see in today's video games! lol what's it like to never see a vagina?
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Aug 10, 2014 19:26
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DoctorWhat posted:He gets melted pretty brutally and turned into a This is a big part of why I liked NSMB so much. It was so refreshing that Bowser actually died horribly in the lava and you fought his skeleton.
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Aug 10, 2014 19:44
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skeleton in New Super Mario Bros. Bowser Jr. revives him as Dry Bowser before he gets revived fully by Kamek at the end.
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CatsPajamas posted:The black sheep of Mario RPGs, Super Paper Mario and Sticker Star, both tried to diverge from the turn-based RPG style while still obstinately carrying the Paper Mario name. Super Paper Mario is more of a platformer / RPG hybrid, The problem with Super Paper Mario is that it had the platforming of an RPG and the combat of a platformer.
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Aug 10, 2014 20:03
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Tender Bender posted:The problem with Super Paper Mario is that it had the platforming of an RPG and the combat of a platformer. I thought the problem was the game was basically the whole General White quest from TTYD on loop forever. Hold right to walk through blank screens for about 5/10 minutes Run on this wheel for like 10 minutes Get some paper and write down this code then once input come back and enter this second longer code etc.
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Aug 10, 2014 20:15
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I thought the problem was the game was basically the whole General White quest from TTYD on loop forever. Those moments were a lot fewer and further between than people remember but the game itself was still a stiff and comatose-easy platformer and RPG with a plot that eventually started taking itself way too seriously for its own good. The collectathon bullshit didn't start to get really outrageous until the Underwhere/Overthere segments, and by that point the game had used up every trick it had, so it got tiresome fast.
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Aug 10, 2014 20:45
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I like Super Paper Mario. It's got some ridiculously stupid decisions, but the plot is actually good and the environments and music are great. Also it's as funny as any other Mario RPG. Personally I'd rank it something like TTYD Superstar Saga Paper Mario MarioRPG Bowsers Inside Story Super Paper Mario Partners in Time Sticker Star I think PiT and SS are legitimately bad games, but I'd recommend any of the first 6.
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Aug 10, 2014 21:30
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:
You barely need to run on the wheel, if you run on it to earn all your rupees or whatever, you did it wrong.
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Aug 10, 2014 23:07
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Getting the 10k rubies required for getting the safe combination takes roughly six minutes of wheel. I mean sure, you can look the combination up on Gamefaqs or whatever, but that's certainly not the intended method.
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Aug 10, 2014 23:15
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:Getting the 10k rubies required for getting the safe combination takes roughly six minutes of wheel. The Wheel was literally just the worst. "Hey, you know what gamers really want? Running with the occasional jump just so they don't tape the right button down."
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Aug 10, 2014 23:17
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I didn't like having to basically get a walkthrough every time you wanted to go a new world because the only hint they gave you for the location of each heart pillar thing is "hey you have a new partner/power so go use it everywhere until you find the one obscure corner that we wanted you to find" I enjoyed the game overall though
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Aug 10, 2014 23:37
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So Target has a reserve a game get $15 off a 39.99 game deal going this week for Wii U. Seems like a really good time to pick up any games your missing. I had them price match Super Mario 3Dworld with amazon, reserved Smash Bros and used my $25 gift card for getting the wii u and SM3DW came to 10 bucks.
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Aug 11, 2014 00:45
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about picking up a Wii U soon and it would be my first console in several years. If I'm trying to be smart about spending money on games, what's the best route? I'd love to be able to rent because it seems like a good way to keep from spending more than necessary - is Gamefly good? Any suggestions appreciated.
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Aug 11, 2014 01:00
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mamelon posted:Hey guys, I'm thinking about picking up a Wii U soon and it would be my first console in several years. If I'm trying to be smart about spending money on games, what's the best route? I'd love to be able to rent because it seems like a good way to keep from spending more than necessary - is Gamefly good? Any suggestions appreciated.
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Aug 11, 2014 01:51
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I just got a wii u last night and despite having to sit through the initial update it's a nice console. Kinda wish I could still redeem the free game with Mario Kart or whatever it was. Are wii u's region free though? It's still kinda cheaper to just buy from amazon. Also is Shovel Knight still not released in Australia?
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Aug 11, 2014 02:02
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Not Eek posted:I just got a wii u last night and despite having to sit through the initial update it's a nice console. Kinda wish I could still redeem the free game with Mario Kart or whatever it was. No, yes, and no, respectively. It might be released by Christmas? We don't know, unfortunately. Anyway, welcome to Wii U ownership! You have made a good choice.
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Aug 11, 2014 02:04
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Silver Falcon posted:No, yes, and no, respectively. That's mad disappointing considering my other console is a PS3. At least the pricing isn't as bad as it was a few years ago where a new game could be as much as $110 and a game from another country was $65.
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Aug 11, 2014 02:38
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deafmute posted:(snip) Thanks. That sounds like it'd be alright since I don't mind waiting. I'm also not against used games from Craigslist. I realized that with a few exceptions over the years, I don't replay a lot of games and the $60 pricetag is feeling pretty wacky as a result.
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Aug 11, 2014 02:42
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mamelon posted:Thanks. That sounds like it'd be alright since I don't mind waiting. I'm also not against used games from Craigslist. Depending on what kind of games you're interesting in, you might not have to spend $60. ZombiU and Wonderful 101 are both awesome, and it seems like they're around $20-$30 most places. Digital games like NES Remix 1 & 2, Guacamelee and Shovel Knight are all awesome. Take advantage of the deluxe promotion if you got a black Wii U. It's a shame the Mario Kart 8 promotion ended because that was really awesome. Do you think there's any chance of Nintendo doing something similar for other big releases, like Hyrule Warriors or Smash 4?
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Aug 11, 2014 02:57
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CatsPajamas posted:Depending on what kind of games you're interesting in, you might not have to spend $60. ZombiU and Wonderful 101 are both awesome, and it seems like they're around $20-$30 most places. Digital games like NES Remix 1 & 2, Guacamelee and Shovel Knight are all awesome. Take advantage of the deluxe promotion if you got a black Wii U. Well, Bayonetta 2 you get a free download of Bayonetta 1 if you register it in time.
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Aug 11, 2014 12:59
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Silver Falcon posted:Mario Sunshine was a great game. Leagues better than Mario 64, for sure. Not as good as the Galaxy games, but honestly the Galaxy games are so close to perfection.
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Aug 11, 2014 13:06
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Nintendo's put out a lot of conflicting info on the Bayo 1/2 thing but I'm pretty sure it's not a limited-time deal or anything - if you buy Bayo 2, you'll get Bayo 1.
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Aug 11, 2014 13:07
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Nintendo's put out a lot of conflicting info on the Bayo 1/2 thing but I'm pretty sure it's not a limited-time deal or anything - if you buy Bayo 2, you'll get Bayo 1. I thought Bayo 1 was on the disc?
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Aug 11, 2014 13:20
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I thought Bayo 1 was on the disc? Separate disc/download.
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Aug 11, 2014 13:21
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I thought Bayo 1 was on the disc? This is how it's going to work.
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Aug 11, 2014 13:56
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At this point I don't believe anything until they explain it themselves on their own website or a Nintendo Direct.
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Aug 11, 2014 14:04
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Yeah, that implies that on the eshop the combined price of 1 and 2 will be equal to the physical box price (likely $60). That would mean that the eshop price for just 2 could be $10 or $20 cheaper for anyone who already owns/has played/doesn't care about the original, which doesn't seem likely.
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Aug 11, 2014 14:25
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LanceKing2200 posted:Yeah, that implies that on the eshop the combined price of 1 and 2 will be equal to the physical box price (likely $60). That would mean that the eshop price for just 2 could be $10 or $20 cheaper for anyone who already owns/has played/doesn't care about the original, which doesn't seem likely. What's more likely is the double-pack will cost $90 or something, but again, they've backpedalled and contradicted themselves on this whole thing a few times now so who knows.
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Aug 11, 2014 14:37
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Aug 11, 2014 15:39
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kalonZombie posted:Leagues better than Mario 64, for sure. Not as good as the Galaxy games, but honestly the Galaxy games are so close to perfection. I was just replacing my old copy of Galaxy, and decided to read the reviews on amazon. They are mostly positive obviously, but some of the 1 star ratings really made me sad that some people have no idea what a good game actually is
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Aug 11, 2014 15:40
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JakeP posted:
You can use your Club Nintendo points to download Super Mario Brothers 2 or Kid Icarus to put yourself the edge.
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Aug 11, 2014 16:01
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nintendoland doesn't come with new deluxe consoles right? so why do I have 50 rewards points for playing it when I don't seem to own it?
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Aug 11, 2014 16:32
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ethanol posted:nintendoland doesn't come with new deluxe consoles right? so why do I have 50 rewards points for playing it when I don't seem to own it? It comes with refurbished ones. I don't even know if they're actually refurbished as opposed to Nintendo discontinuing standard consoles and needing to offload the remaining stock.
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Aug 11, 2014 16:46
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LanceKing2200 posted:Yeah, that implies that on the eshop the combined price of 1 and 2 will be equal to the physical box price (likely $60). That would mean that the eshop price for just 2 could be $10 or $20 cheaper for anyone who already owns/has played/doesn't care about the original, which doesn't seem likely. Their system already supports various promotions like "If you own this game, you get this game cheaper." So they could have it just give you the first game at a -100% sale price if you own the second.
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Aug 11, 2014 17:22
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Fremry posted:You can use your Club Nintendo points to download Super Mario Brothers 2 or Kid Icarus to put yourself the edge. I just did that with SMB2 to get there
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Aug 11, 2014 19:28
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JakeP posted:I just did that with SMB2 to get there You still have until the end of the year, but I hear it. Also: Hyrule Warriors is going to have a Club Nintendo free DLC offer 9/26 - 10/23. Free Ganondorf costume DLC if you register the game on Club Nintendo between those dates. Edit: Specifically, it's two costumes. One from Ocarina of Time and one from Twilight Princess.
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Aug 11, 2014 19:55
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JakeP posted:
Holy crap, I didn't know about this until now. Had to do a google search and turns out I have over 1000 points. Why doesn't Nintendo integrate this stuff into the store?
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