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Reading all the crazy poo poo that Billy has been doing and how crazy he's become has definitely been the most interesting thing SP/Corgan-related in the last 15 years. Then it's those reissues and a really really distant third is anything he's recorded from Machina onwards
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Of course he'll get a female bassist to tour with because that would be keeping his creepiness consistent.
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Jun 15, 2014 16:51
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Kim Deal is currently between opportunities, right?
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I'm still pissed at the way Billy treated Melissa. I saw them with D'Arcy, Melissa and later with Paz (no way I'd ever pay to go to a new show) and by far the best bassist and the one Billy played off best was MADM so obviously he had to be a complete dick to her. loving Billy 
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Jun 16, 2014 14:12
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Not necessarily, he helped produce her (only? first?) solo album. It could be that it was a temporary arrangement.
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Jun 16, 2014 15:46
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AFAIK the falling out happened afterwards but yeah he did some dick moves and never bothered to call her back for the reunion etc... but she's just too nice to say anything about it. That's what came out from Netphoria anyway but I can't say it's something i read about in the last six or seven years, I just remember thinking 'What an rear end in a top hat (and non-surprise)'
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Twee as gently caress posted:I'm still pissed at the way Billy treated Melissa. I saw them with D'Arcy, Melissa and later with Paz (no way I'd ever pay to go to a new show) and by far the best bassist and the one Billy played off best was MADM so obviously he had to be a complete dick to her. loving Billy Cromulent fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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Jun 16, 2014 16:32
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Cromulent posted:Melissa is definitely the best bassist they ever had. She also fit in musically the least. She was fun to watch and she seems really cool but listen to the bass on Rock On from Judas O - that's what she sounded like that whole tour.
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Jun 16, 2014 18:44
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Didn't Hole reunite? At least she's still playing songs written by Billy.
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Jun 17, 2014 11:24
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Small clip from 'Anti-Hero', with The Shredder (?) doing an overdub. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RE9MXmSMV0
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Not necessarily, he helped produce her (only? first?) solo album. It could be that it was a temporary arrangement.
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hatelull posted:Kim Deal is currently between opportunities, right? Kim wouldn't put up with Billy's poo poo
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baka kaba posted:Kim wouldn't put up with Billy's poo poo "YOU FUCKIN' DIE!"
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Small clip from 'Anti-Hero', with The Shredder (?) doing an overdub.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:"YOU FUCKIN' DIE!" Billy attempts to recruit Kim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNyNEO4Ef08
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Track listing for Adore remaster now out Disc 1 – Adore: Stereo Remastered 01. To Sheila 02. Ava Adore 03. Perfect 04. Daphne Descends 05. Once Upon a Time 06. Tear 07. Crestfallen 08. Appels + Oranjes 09. Pug 10. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete 11. Annie-Dog 12. Shame 13. Behold! the Night Mare 14. For Martha 15. Blank Page 16. 17 Disc 2 – Adore: Mono Remastered 01. To Sheila 02. Ava Adore 03. Perfect 04. Daphne Descends 05. Once Upon a Time 06. Tear 07. Crestfallen 08. Appels + Oranjes 09. Pug 10. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete 11. Annie-Dog 12. Shame 13. Behold! the Night Mare 14. For Martha 15. Blank Page Disc 3: In a State of Passage 01. Blissed and Gone (Sadlands Demo) 02. Christmastime (Sadlands Demo) 03. My Mistake (Sadlands Demo) 04. Sparrow (Sadlands Demo) 05. Valentine (Sadlands Demo) 06. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete (Sadlands Demo) 07. What If? (Streeterville Demo) 08. Chewing Gum (CRC Demo) 09. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete (CRC Demo) 10. The Ethers Tragic (Instrumental/ 2014 Mix/ CRC Demo) 11. The Guns of Love Disastrous (Instrumental/ 2014 Mix/ CRC Demo) 12. Annie-Dog (Take 10/ CRC Demo) 13. Once in a While (2014 Mix/ CRC Demo) 14. Do You Close Your Eyes When You Kiss Me? (CRC Demo) 15. For Martha (Take 1/ CRC Demo) 16. My Mistake (Take 1/ CRC Demo) 17. Blissed and Gone (CRC Demo) 18. For Martha (Take 2/ Instrumental/ CRC Demo) Disc 4: Chalices, Palaces and Deep Pools 01. For Martha (Symphonic Snippet/ Instrumental) 02. Crestfallen (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014) 03. To Sheila (Early Banjo Version) 04. Ava Adore (Puffy Combs Remix 1998) 05. O Rio (Instrumental/ Sadlands Demo) 06. Waiting (Adore Outtake) 07. Once Upon a Time (Sadlands Demo) 08. Eye (2014 Mix/ From the ‘Lost Highway’ Soundtrack) 09. Saturnine (For Piano and Voice) 10. Cash Car Star (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014) 11. Pug (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014) 12. Perfect (No Strings Version) 13. It’s Alright (Instrumental/ Adore Outtake) 14. Czarina (Take 1/ Adore Outtake) 15. Indecision (Sadlands Demo) 16. Blank Page (Early Version) Disc 5: Malice, Callous and Fools 01. Let Me Give the World to You (Adore Outtake) 02. Tear (From Digital Transfer) 03. Cross (Adore Outtake) 04. Because You Are (Adore B-Side) 05. Jersey Shore (Sadlands Demo) 06. Shame (Take 1) 07. Summer (Instrumental/ Adore Outtake) 08. Blissed and Gone (Drone Version) 09. Heaven (Instrumental/ Sadlands Demo) 10. Daphne Descends (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014) 11. Saturnine (Matt Walker Reimagined/ 2014) 12. Behold! the Night Mare (Alternate Vocal) 13. Perfect (Acoustic Demo/ Adore Outtake) 14. Do You Close Your Eyes? (Adore Outtake) 15. The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning Disc 6: Kissed Alive Too 01. Ava Adore (Live/ Sao Paulo Session) 02. Daphne Descends (Live/ Sao Paulo Session) 03. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete (Live/ Sao Paulo Session) 04. Tear (Live/ Sao Paulo Session) 05. Shame (Live With Mancow/ Chicago) 06. Blank Page (Live With Mancow/ Chicago) 07. To Sheila (Live/ Nashville/ Ryman Auditorium) 08. Money (That’s What I Want) (Live/ Los Angeles/ Dodger Stadium) 09. X.Y.U. Medley (Live/ Los Angeles/ Dodger Stadium) 10. Transmission (Live/ Chicago/ Rehearsal) Disc 7 – DVD: Fox Theater, Atlanta, GA – August 4, 1998 01. To Sheila 02. Behold! the Night Mare 03. Pug 04. Crestfallen 05. Ava Adore 06. Tear 07. Annie-Dog 08. Perfect 09. Thru the Eyes of Ruby 10. Tonight, Tonight 11. Once Upon a Time 12. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete 13. Bullet with Butterfly Wings 14. Shame 15. For Martha 16. Blank Page 17. Transmission
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hatelull posted:Kim Deal is currently between opportunities, right? Voted 5 The Black Stones posted:Track listing for Adore remaster now out 
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Was Soot and Stars a part of the Machina timeline? loving love that track.
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I suspect we've heard the majority of those demos already but goddamn is that an impressive track listing.
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Adore remaster is the one I've been waiting for the most. Billy was right when he said that Adore would be looked back as a masterpiece 20 years later because it's really really loving great.
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Twee as gently caress posted:Adore remaster is the one I've been waiting for the most. Billy was right when he said that Adore would be looked back as a masterpiece 20 years later because it's really really loving great. Yeah it really is. edit: having just read the wall of text on sp.com that came with the tracklist announcement, let me say: you are a crazy, crazy son of a bitch billy corgan. bless your soul. Platypus Farm fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Jul 17, 2014 |
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My attention is sufficiently peaked with Disc 7. I caught one of the live shows for that small tour, and it was incinerating. The jammy "Transmission" cover is one of my favorite live things.
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Throwing money at my monitor just for disc 7.
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http://www.smashingpumpkinsnexus.co...FE-6521C46697B8 Billy is currently transferring 60+ four-track tapes of early SP demos to digital, and apparently his latest crazy idea is to put out "12 to 20 separate releases" of those demos. Even crazier part is that he plans to do it this year.
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I'm apparently in a minority, but when it comes to early Smashing Pumpkins, "Take my money, please!"
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Cheesus posted:I'm apparently in a minority, but when it comes to early Smashing Pumpkins, "Take my money, please!" No I'm exactly the same way. I'm an absolute idiot for early pumpkins stuff and demos and all that.
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Masonic Youth posted:http://www.smashingpumpkinsnexus.co...FE-6521C46697B8 That is pretty exciting, as to date we only have a handful of tracks from Nothing Ever Changes. I'm a pretty big fan of their "semi-early" work (1989-90 Reel Time Session era stuff), but even though this predates it, I'm still stoked to get a listen.
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The Black Stones posted:01. Let Me Give the World to You (Adore Outtake) I'm late to the party here but I haven't seen this answered anywhere: is this like the "Let Me Give the World to You" outtake? The Rick Rubin one that got hyped up massively prior to release and was eventually left off the album and never heard?
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whatis posted:I'm late to the party here but I haven't seen this answered anywhere: is this like the "Let Me Give the World to You" outtake? The Rick Rubin one that got hyped up massively prior to release and was eventually left off the album and never heard? Yes, it is. I'm half expecting for Billy to pull a fast one and somehow put out the version that hasn't been hyped for 16 years.
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Pizza Club posted:Yes, it is. I'm half expecting for Billy to pull a fast one and somehow put out the version that hasn't been hyped for 16 years. gently caress. That rules
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Honestly I dont know how it could be any better than the LMGTWTY that they played at the viper room but if it's even close, it'll be amazing.
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Phone posting so hard for me to post a link, but Billy put "Let Me Give the World To You" up on YouTube for a couple days. Give it a listen.
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The Black Stones posted:Phone posting so hard for me to post a link, but Billy put "Let Me Give the World To You" up on YouTube for a couple days. Give it a listen. Hmm can I remember bbcode via phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDo7FE4Mm14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDo7FE4Mm14
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Sounds good. I don't really know what I was expecting, but honestly I'm sure my expectations were way too high. I guess fifteen years or so of listening to the song being played live with HUGE soaring vocals in the chorus will spoil just about anything. Still, if we have more of this caliber stuff to look forward to, I'm gonna be happy to drop the bucks.
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I've loved the song ever since I heard it on Machina II and I love this recording a lot
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A few pages ago somebody asked if there were any bands like Smashing Pumpkins and there weren't really any good suggestions. I was listening to the new Ty Segall album and there's a lot of influences that can be heard on it. This song in particular reminded me a lot of early 90s Pumpkins, specifically their raw live performances and demos from that time. Now bear with me, this is a very loose comparison, and I actually don't think this live version quite does the studio version justice (which is a shame), but give it a try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99Id3Iq2fw If you can track down the studio version instead, I recommend it (the one on youtube is an early demo, so don't trust it) . Get the whole album actually. Also weird to note the singer's shirt could be interpreted zero-inspired, but it's anyone's guess. BANME.sh fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Aug 20, 2014 |
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A bunch of stuff leaked via Netphoria a little while ago, including "Envelope Woman" and two versions of "In the Arms of Sheep" from "Pastichio Medley", demo versions of "Glass + The Ghost Children", "Raindrops and Sunshowers", "Where Boys Fear to Tread", and "Home", and a Machina-era version of "Without You". Also the Billy-vocals demo of Natalie Imbruglia's "Identify". They've all been banned from the site (as have the people who leaked them, I believe) but the  are out there somewhere.edit: Oh poo poo, these are the tracks that Billy said were "stolen" in the 7/28 Panopticon update. He's seriously pissed. This Is the Zodiac fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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Masonic Youth posted:A bunch of stuff leaked via Netphoria a little while ago, including "Envelope Woman" and two versions of "In the Arms of Sheep" from "Pastichio Medley", demo versions of "Glass + The Ghost Children", "Raindrops and Sunshowers", "Where Boys Fear to Tread", and "Home", and a Machina-era version of "Without You". Also the Billy-vocals demo of Natalie Imbruglia's "Identify". They've all been banned from the site (as have the people who leaked them, I believe) but the Damnit, I need to get back to lurking in Netphoria again. All the cool stuff happens when I stop paying attention to them.
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Masonic Youth posted:A bunch of stuff leaked via Netphoria a little while ago, including "Envelope Woman" and two versions of "In the Arms of Sheep" from "Pastichio Medley", demo versions of "Glass + The Ghost Children", "Raindrops and Sunshowers", "Where Boys Fear to Tread", and "Home", and a Machina-era version of "Without You". Also the Billy-vocals demo of Natalie Imbruglia's "Identify". They've all been banned from the site (as have the people who leaked them, I believe) but the oh poo poo, i gotta find this somehow.
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The original "Let Me Give the World to You" they released on YouTube sounded brickwalled to death. It's the prettiest version production-wise but drat that's really louded-up. I really hope the Adore reissue isn't gonna be a repeat of the Pisces Box Set in terms of sound quality. Because I'm getting "Bye June" and "There it Goes" flashbacks.BANME.sh posted:A few pages ago somebody asked if there were any bands like Smashing Pumpkins and there weren't really any good suggestions. I know this is a long shot but..My Chemical Romance? Sort of? I mean, their discography even syncs up with the Pumpkins and where each band went stylistically. And then they broke up after the same number of years. Their frontman has named the Pumpkins as an inspiration in interview after interview. Their sound(s) are sort of like a mixed up molotov cocktail of different sounds and the Pumpkins (Mellon Collie thru Machina) are definitely in there somewhere.
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