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What is the best version of El? This poll is closed. |
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20 | 6.45% |
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99 | 31.94% |
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153 | 49.35% |
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I brought this up in IRC; the Trevor Project is fantastic, but I want to donate to LGBT causes somewhere like Russia or Uganda. Anyone know of any reliable charities for that sort of thing?
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Aug 11, 2014 10:38
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Kai Tave posted:Basically if someone has hangups about good drow or dual-wielding rangers or whatever you know that they're the sort of person who'll get shirty about dragonborn or tieflings or warforged or any D&D party that isn't two or more humans, one dwarf, one elf, a halfling, and maybe something as exotic as a half-orc (maybe).
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Aug 11, 2014 10:42
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"What...what is that terrifying mysterious abomination?!" "Looks like some kind of dragon-person." "Oh, okay then." I can imagine games where dragon-people showing up might be a big huge shocking thing, but D&D, home of the owlbear, is not one of them.
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Aug 11, 2014 10:47
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Plague of Hats posted:I really liked the Forgotten Realms for a while, when I was into D&D3. I bought nearly all the books, including some old box sets. This was one of the steps on my journey to getting really tired of books packed to the brim with minute details about poo poo that probably 99% of gamers never actually use even if they like to read it. And then you started writing for Exalted. 
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Aug 11, 2014 11:00
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Reene posted:How many always or almost always evil races are also matriarchal in this setting? In the FR? Drow, stingers, gray orcs, driders, chitines/choldriths, maybe kuo-toa with a few moments of thinking. This isn't counting stuff like lizard queen-dominated lizard folk tribes where it's roughly a 50/50 split and up to the DM. Oh, and fey'ri.
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Aug 11, 2014 11:03
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Forums Terrorist posted:I brought this up in IRC; the Trevor Project is fantastic, but I want to donate to LGBT causes somewhere like Russia or Uganda. Anyone know of any reliable charities for that sort of thing? Ask Mormon Star Wars. It's not QUITE what you were looking for but he had a lead on something just as cool.
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Aug 11, 2014 11:34
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A better question is how many of the matriarchal societies, good or evil, are chaotic because a woman president violates the laws of nature (dwarves, replace "nature" with Moradin)?
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Aug 11, 2014 11:39
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Jesus, how did I miss this thread all month? I also kicked the same amount (but in real money) to http://www.equality-network.org/ as they're local to me. No screen cap, had to donate by text because their web-donate form's falling over.
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Aug 11, 2014 12:51
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Possibly relevant to the interests of various folks here - someone's doing a 13th Age/Glorantha mashup: http://www.13thageinglorantha.com/
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Aug 11, 2014 13:10
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Found some of the quotes from one of the deleted blogs about our beloved new mod:quote:He tasks me; he heaps me; I see in him outrageous strength, with an inscrutable malice sinewing it. That inscrutable thing is chiefly what I hate; and be the white whale agent, or be the white whale principal, I will wreak that hate upon him. Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me. quote:All that most maddens and torments; all that stirs up the lees of things; all truth with malice in it; all that cracks the sinews and cakes the brain; all the subtle demonisms of life and thought; all evil, to crazy Zak, were visibly personified, and made practically assailable in Ettin. He piled upon the mod's white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart's shell upon it.
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Aug 11, 2014 13:50
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I reshared the FailForward article as much as I could, so I guess I qualify for Zak's lovely little game. Thus, donation! I'd been feeling bad recently about getting angry on the internet rather than actually doing anything constructive, so I'm glad someone had this idea.
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Aug 11, 2014 13:50
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Kai Tave posted:"What...what is that terrifying mysterious abomination?!" Setting, chararacters, concepts are what you make of them, and the fantastic becomes mundane without contrast. That's not the game's fault. A Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Aug 11, 2014 13:54
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I missed what Fail Forward is, but I'm up for donating to the Trevor Project for reasons.
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Aug 11, 2014 14:57
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I went and looked up the Trevor Project at CharityNavigator; it's got four stars for accountability and transparency as well as how they handle their finances. Some other four-star charities in related fields: Lambda Legal, Human Rights Campaign, and Equality Now. The International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission might also be of interest -- I recall someone asking about helping internationally -- but it only has 3 stars. I'm not sure why that is; its financials look about as good as the other ones I listed here.
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Aug 11, 2014 15:24
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wiegieman posted:Our very own Jenx is doing all the art for Prince of Sartar: i suspect this may be relevant to some folks' interests here
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Aug 11, 2014 16:24
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I've totally just bought a new house so I'm out of cash, but I'm going to put the Trevor Project on my charities list and donate as soon as I can. Zak S makes me so drat mad. You're making it harder for people to accept the idea that Ye Olde D&Ders like me can be chill as hell and not uptight about stupid poo poo. And you're also just a loving rear end. Go pound sand. JDCorley posted:So I wasn't around when the thread started. I, like the other Elminster av guy, like the Forgotten Realms quite a bit. I haven't actually run into The Realms Fan (tm) as a problem when I run my games, nor do I really read the novels (fantasy novels are boring, read good novels instead okay?) I think the thing I like most about FR (and Greyhawk actually) is they really tie in closely to "the D&D experience" - journeys to weird places, tons of dungeons, and so on, and it adds in something few other settings do: a core reason to be an adventurer. Don't read poo poo fantasy yeah, read like, Michael Swanwick or Patricia McKillip or Kelly Link instead. I guess I'll be That Guy but Not All Fantasy Is Like That™ Also I view the Forgotten Realms like the mainstream superhero comics of D&D. A lot of it is really cool, but a lot of it is also really terrible. You just have to pick and choose what you're going to care about. This is a good summary of what makes the Realms unique - the answer to the "Why not homebrew? Why not any other generic world?" question. Thanks, JD Kai Tave posted:I never really felt any strong affection for the Forgotten Realms, and as a gaming setting it leaves me kind of cold, but after years and years of seeing people flip out over people wanting to play good drow or Drizzt clones I have to admit that I like it just for providing a basic litmus test as to whether or not someone's going to be insufferable to game with; do they sigh, theatrically roll their eyes, and/or go on a longwinded spiel about Drizzt every time someone wants to play or mentions drow? If the answer is yes then you should probably find someone else to game with. Seems to me most of the MAD @ HELL @ DRIZZT people are those who were in their 20s in the 90s still being mad at young teenagers of the time, and typing SPESHUL SNOWFLAKE unironically. Tollymain posted:i suspect this may be relevant to some folks' interests here potatocubed posted:Possibly relevant to the interests of various folks here - someone's doing a 13th Age/Glorantha mashup: Dear god thank you Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Aug 11, 2014 16:36
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 One more for the pile.
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Aug 11, 2014 16:39
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This is the most dumbass Xanatos Gambit I've ever heard of
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Aug 11, 2014 17:01
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So uh, what's the total up to now for goons who have donated?
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Aug 11, 2014 17:11
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I'm a pigfucker who posted Zak and the Dongion in grogs.txt I wonder if Mike Mearls' feelings about this have changed now that Zak is becoming more unhinged?
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Aug 11, 2014 17:27
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ProfessorCirno posted:There were people in ENWorld who thought 5e having a half-orc paladin picture was WotC going too far and succumbing to POLITICAL CORRECTNESS so like Ah yes. The powerful half-orc lobby.
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Aug 11, 2014 17:28
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This post is on topic.
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Aug 11, 2014 17:29
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Kai Tave posted:Basically if someone has hangups about good drow or dual-wielding rangers or whatever you know that they're the sort of person who'll get shirty about dragonborn or tieflings or warforged or any D&D party that isn't two or more humans, one dwarf, one elf, a halfling, and maybe something as exotic as a half-orc (maybe). those humans/dwarf/elf/halfling better be white, too, because
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Aug 11, 2014 17:29
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Well the total has exceeded Zak's promise of 1000 dollars (if you follow all his rules and he doesn't rules-lawyer up a reason for why he doesn't have to donate), so that's decent.
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Aug 11, 2014 18:00
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Tollymain posted:those humans/dwarf/elf/halfling better be white, too, because Still chuckling over that one dude on ENWorld who was all "next thing you know there'll be colored dwarves, chinese halflings and elves in wheelchairs; and then D&D will be destroyed!" Good times, good times
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Aug 11, 2014 18:01
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Rasamune posted:Still chuckling over that one dude on ENWorld who was all "next thing you know there'll be colored dwarves, chinese halflings and elves in wheelchairs; and then D&D will be destroyed!" Ah poo poo, I didn't put an elf in a wheelchair in Fellowship, brb contacting my artists. EDIT: I haven't talked about it much, but here's official art I already have finished and in my next book:  The Dwarf The HalflingSo the fact those specific two examples line up so well is making me laugh a lot. gnome7 fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Aug 11, 2014 18:03
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I threw in $20 to the Trevor Project, but unfortunately I did so from a computer that has no image editing software installed on it.
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Aug 11, 2014 18:06
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Rasamune posted:Still chuckling over that one dude on ENWorld who was all "next thing you know there'll be colored dwarves, chinese halflings and elves in wheelchairs; and then D&D will be destroyed!"
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Aug 11, 2014 18:07
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gnome7 posted:Ah poo poo, I didn't put an elf in a wheelchair in Fellowship, brb contacting my artists. I remember a similar situation coming up with my original Halfling cover, some dude going super mad at exactly the time I'd already picked the cover I wanted. I'll leave what they were mad about as an exercise to the reader: 
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Aug 11, 2014 18:14
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Rasamune posted:colored dwarves Uhhh so just to be clear somebody that paranoid about the destruction of the D&D game is aware that Duergar and Gold Dwarves have been around for like 30 years right
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Aug 11, 2014 18:15
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gnome7 posted:EDIT: I haven't talked about it much, but here's official art I already have finished and in my next book: I'm the dragon-face belt buckle poking the black dwarf's nipples These are cute as gently caress; who're they by?
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Aug 11, 2014 18:16
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Does anyone know if Zak has actually donated anything yet or has he
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Aug 11, 2014 18:16
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i don't know what gold dwarves are but they sound like an even more insane jew e: stereotype is the word i'm looking for Tollymain fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Aug 11, 2014 18:16
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gnome7 posted:
This halfling is about to gently caress you up.
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Aug 11, 2014 18:17
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Tollymain posted:i don't know what gold dwarves are but they sound like an even more insane jew allegory FR's pet name for hill dwarves in the same way they have moon elves and poo poo, and for example this is what they look like in the 3E FR book 
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Aug 11, 2014 18:21
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Spincut posted:Does anyone know if Zak has actually donated anything yet or has he Give you two guesses, you'll only need one.
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Aug 11, 2014 18:27
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Error 404 posted:Give you two guesses, you'll only need one. Go figure! I'll be donating $20 to the Trevor Project when I get home from work, and I'll post up my confirmation when I do.
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Aug 11, 2014 18:31
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Rasamune posted:I'm the dragon-face belt buckle poking the black dwarf's nipples They're by Hans Heisler, internet name Clove. They're basically the best artist I've ever worked with and they're also doing work for Golden Sky Stories right now. You can find their art here: http://cloveochai.tumblr.com/
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Aug 11, 2014 18:32
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i must say that's some pretty ballin art
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Aug 11, 2014 18:34
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Rasamune posted:Still chuckling over that one dude on ENWorld who was all "next thing you know there'll be colored dwarves, chinese halflings and elves in wheelchairs; and then D&D will be destroyed!" I don't know why that guy was complaining, wheelchairs have existed for thousands of years, though having one that's more focused to you than a cart often meant you were either mechanically adept enough to fashion one yourself (as with German watchmaker Stephan Farffler) or were wealthy enough that someone would make one for you (King Philip II of Spain's chronic gout meant that he was pushed around in one later in life). Of course, when wheelchairs were rare, wheelchair accessibility was also rare so it made life harder. Stuff like mass-production, collapsible wheelchairs, ultralight materials and motorized wheelchairs didn't get into production until the late 19th and early-to-mid 20th century, but if your game world has tinkerers, alchemists and literal magic there's tons of interesting things you can do.
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