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Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

I don't really see the point of a China expansion for CK2. It would be better as its own game where all of the mechanics would be tailored just for it. And China's relevance to Europe was minimal at best. What I mean is that while there were indirect interactions between the various regions of eurasia, not enough to really justify simulating them all in the same game. Like, if a stand-alone game came out containing only Asia, that would be fine and nothing important would be missed.

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Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


In HoI3 what exactly does a Convoy Escort do? Are they worth building/how many should I have? They are very expensive IC-wise compared to a convoy.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
IIRC Paradox already said that China isn't happening.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Decrepus posted:

In HoI3 what exactly does a Convoy Escort do? Are they worth building/how many should I have? They are very expensive IC-wise compared to a convoy.

Sometimes when you have your subs/destroyers on convoy raiding, they won't attack a convoy if it has a lot of escorts compared to raiders. In practice I think I've seen this happen like, twice so I don't think they're worth building since the rest of the time they get sunk along with your convoys. Better to use old destroyers as escorts and light cruisers as hunters to kill the subs you find.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Don Gato posted:

Sometimes when you have your subs/destroyers on convoy raiding, they won't attack a convoy if it has a lot of escorts compared to raiders. In practice I think I've seen this happen like, twice so I don't think they're worth building since the rest of the time they get sunk along with your convoys. Better to use old destroyers as escorts and light cruisers as hunters to kill the subs you find.

Thanks, I'll save the IC then.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

Like, if a stand-alone game came out containing only Asia, that would be fine and nothing important would be missed.
Except the most important thing of all; :eurovision::denmark::france::sweden::britain::norway::italy::tito::belarus::geert::scotland::spain::poland:

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

IIRC Paradox already said that China isn't happening.

But they could've called it Romance of the Crusader Kingdoms... :histdowns:

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Azipod posted:

But they could've called it Romance of the Crusader Kingdoms... :histdowns:

They'd have to throw the game date back to the 2nd century AD, so, it'd be a stretch to have them in the game—much as I would like to play as Liu Bei and abuse my family in order to restore the Han.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Except the most important thing of all; :eurovision::denmark::france::sweden::britain::norway::italy::tito::belarus::geert::scotland::spain::poland:

Now announcing the Europe expansion for Europa Universalis 5!


please actually do this for eu5:getin:

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Perhaps the DLC adds one of Jupiter's moons to the game.

Smiling Knight
May 31, 2011

nutranurse posted:

They'd have to throw the game date back to the 2nd century AD, so, it'd be a stretch to have them in the game—much as I would like to play as Liu Bei and abuse my family in order to restore the Han.

Your loyal retainer, Zhao Yun, has single-handedly saved your son, Liu Shan, from the enemy army! What do you do?

--Thank Zhao Yun for his service
---Zhao Yun's opinion of Liu Bei increases by 5

--Greatly reward him for his bravery in the defense of our family!
---Lose 10 gold; Zhao Yun's opinion of Liu Bei increases by 15
---20% chance of gaining charitable

--Swear a blood oath, making him part of your family
---Zhao Yun's opinion of Liu Bei increases by 100
---50% chance Zhang Fei and Guan Yu's opinion of Liu Bei decreases by 100

--Throw that baby on the ground!!!
---Liu Bei gains trait "Wroth"
---70% chance Liu Shan gains trait "Slow"
---Liu Shan gets "Hates babies", giving General Opinion -20 until 23 August 209

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Smiling Knight posted:

--Throw that baby on the ground!!!
---Liu Bei gains trait "Wroth"
---70% chance Liu Shan gains trait "Slow"
---Liu Shan gets "Hates babies", giving General Opinion -20 until 23 August 209

Let's be fair, the display did end up moving Zhao Yun pretty strongly, better give him a +100 opinion bonus for it.

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010

Luigi Thirty posted:

The timeline has been extended backward to 476.

I'd kill for this so much if it was done well.

wargames
Mar 16, 2008

official yospos cat censor

Don Gato posted:

:downs: I just spent a year and 200 IC building a Landkreuzer P-1000, but the allies just keep bombing where it is and it moves so slowly that by the time it gets to the front lines it's already out of supplies, low on organization and almost dead.


Crosstime Invasion DLC for HoI IV, can you fight off a horde of alternate dimension Aztecs while still keeping the Germans from landing on the Home Islands?

Not good enough you need to go after the p-1500

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1500_Monster

VerdantSquire
Jul 1, 2014

Luigi Thirty posted:

The timeline has been extended backward to 476.

I only want this if Paradox actually goes and manages to simulate a good migration system, as well as a dynamic de jure nation system. I don't really see myself playing it otherwise, because who wants to play on a map that's eternally the same few de jure nations (Minus a few super silly national unions) and nothing but a massive blob of Roman culture?

I think the actual expansion will probably be focused on a small part of the world, like Russia or the HRE. I don't think there are really any more government types to flesh out, and I doubt they are going to do another expansion the size of their last one right off the bat.

VerdantSquire fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Aug 11, 2014

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

VerdantSquire posted:

I think the actual expansion will probably be focused on a small part of the world, like Russia or the HRE. I don't think there are really any more government types to flesh out, and I doubt they are going to do another expansion the size of their last one right off the bat.

Actually those two could be combined in introducing new interesting forms of succession, like fleshing out the HRE (and perhaps the Byzantine Empire) succession rules, as well as a partial incorporation of the rota system for the Russian princes. That's my kokoro wish.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Smiling Knight posted:

--Throw that baby on the ground!!!
---Liu Bei gains trait "Wroth"
---70% chance Liu Shan gains trait "Slow"
---Liu Shan gets "Hates babies", giving General Opinion -20 until 23 August 209

Hahaha, now that I think about it maybe Liu Shan was such a gently caress up because his dad dashed him on the ground.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

VerdantSquire posted:

I only want this if Paradox actually goes and manages to simulate a good migration system, as well as a dynamic de jure nation system.

So you're saying you don't want it.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Azipod posted:

But they could've called it Romance of the Crusader Kingdoms... :histdowns:

A Rot3K-esque Paradox game would give me a boner that would pierce the heavens.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

COOL CORN posted:

A Rot3K-esque Paradox game would give me a boner that would pierce the heavens.

gently caress, KOEI deciding to continue the series AND have it play like Rot3K X AND port it to PC would make me know that the heavens want me to enjoy life.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Luigi Thirty posted:

Curved Barrel
Upgrade for StG 44-equipped units
+1.00 Shock
+3.00 Defense
500% Supply Usage

Anti-Tank Dogs
+1 hard attack for ENG
-1 defence for ARM, HARM

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Adding on to the discussion from a page ago, in addition to all the crazy prototype weapons, what I want for HoI4 is a mod that turns it into a pulp Hollywood version of WW2. Like you've got Hydra units as Germany with futuristic weapons, disavowed suicide teams a la The Dirty Dozen or Inglorious Basterds as the Allies, Rocketeer men, hidden Nazi gold, occult weapons like the Arc, etc.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Enjoy posted:

Anti-Tank Dogs
+1 hard attack for ENG
-1 defence for ARM, HARM

Pigeon Guided Bomb
+ 2 Antiship
Lose use of B.F Skinner during bomb production

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Mantis42 posted:

Adding on to the discussion from a page ago, in addition to all the crazy prototype weapons, what I want for HoI4 is a mod that turns it into a pulp Hollywood version of WW2. Like you've got Hydra units as Germany with futuristic weapons, disavowed suicide teams a la The Dirty Dozen or Inglorious Basterds as the Allies, Rocketeer men, hidden Nazi gold, occult weapons like the Arc, etc.

Hearts of Iron: The New Order

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


COOL CORN posted:

Is there any idea what the "big expansion" for CK2 that's being announced at Gamescom is going to be? It's kind of sad how excited I am about that.

I'm going to Gamescom, I'll do some phoneposting from the Paradox FanFest thingie.

Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

Drone posted:

I'm going to Gamescom, I'll do some phoneposting from the Paradox FanFest thingie.

I'll be there too, but they're planning to stream the whole thing on their twitch, so everyone can watch it live.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

BBJoey posted:

Hearts of Iron: The New Order

Exactly. The final front of WW2 is the Moon.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Mantis42 posted:

Exactly. The final front of WW2 is the Moon.

It'd be a little boring, don't you think? No seas or forests or anything, just craters. Basins, mostly, with the occasional ridge.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Autonomous Monster posted:

It'd be a little boring, don't you think? No seas or forests or anything, just craters. Basins, mostly, with the occasional ridge.

Shooting artillery on the moon would be a lot of fun.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Yeah, but, as a HOI map?

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006
HOI4 at Gamescom: 14 seconds of gameplay, 1 minute of Naziporn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzQYtRvVHhU

Now you can DRAW ARROWS AND WATCH SOLDIERS STAND AIMLESSLY

(in NATO counter mode, the counter stack should totally threaten to topple over if overstacked)

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Lum_ posted:

HOI4 at Gamescom: 14 seconds of gameplay, 1 minute of Naziporn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzQYtRvVHhU

Now you can DRAW ARROWS AND WATCH SOLDIERS STAND AIMLESSLY

(in NATO counter mode, the counter stack should totally threaten to topple over if overstacked)

Cornwall shall never falter!

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
"Hm I love CK2 and EU4, and I like World War 2 stuff! I'll buy HOI3 to see what it's like..."

...

:(

Hm.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

COOL CORN posted:

"Hm I love CK2 and EU4, and I like World War 2 stuff! I'll buy HOI3 to see what it's like..."

...

:(

Hm.

If you want a WW2 game go for Darkest Hour.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

COOL CORN posted:

"Hm I love CK2 and EU4, and I like World War 2 stuff! I'll buy HOI3 to see what it's like..."

...

:(

Hm.

Like what John Charity Spring said, go for Darkest Hour and once you've grasped the basics go get the Kaiserreich mod.

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go

Lum_ posted:

HOI4 at Gamescom: 14 seconds of gameplay, 1 minute of Naziporn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzQYtRvVHhU

Now you can DRAW ARROWS AND WATCH SOLDIERS STAND AIMLESSLY

(in NATO counter mode, the counter stack should totally threaten to topple over if overstacked)

No Free City of Danzig :bahgawd: :spergin:

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

nutranurse posted:

Like what John Charity Spring said, go for Darkest Hour and once you've grasped the basics go get the Kaiserreich mod.

I would almost argue that Kaiserreich is easier to learn with than base Darkest Hour, since there's a lot of minor or midlevel powers with battles to fight that are a lot easier to wrap your head around. I'm thinking things like Belgrade Pact vs. Bulgaria, Austria vs. Bohemia or Hungary and South Italy vs. North Italy. Austria in particular works well because you can completely bypass any wars and stay completely isolationist while you deal with your minors.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

TheMcD posted:

I would almost argue that Kaiserreich is easier to learn with than base Darkest Hour, since there's a lot of minor or midlevel powers with battles to fight that are a lot easier to wrap your head around. I'm thinking things like Belgrade Pact vs. Bulgaria, Austria vs. Bohemia or Hungary and South Italy vs. North Italy. Austria in particular works well because you can completely bypass any wars and stay completely isolationist while you deal with your minors.

That's a very good point.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Lum_ posted:

HOI4 at Gamescom: 14 seconds of gameplay, 1 minute of Naziporn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzQYtRvVHhU

Now you can DRAW ARROWS AND WATCH SOLDIERS STAND AIMLESSLY

(in NATO counter mode, the counter stack should totally threaten to topple over if overstacked)

God I hate the 3d sprites. I have never used the loving things and never will. They look so stupid.

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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

DStecks posted:

Cornwall shall never falter!
I like how the German invasion of France only takes half again as much time as the invasion of Denmark. Must be some diehard Danes to be able to slow down the German advance on Sjælland, especially considering the proximity to Germany itself. Also that Germany decided early on that Italy was a liability, and forcing it into the Allies would improve their own position.

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