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Complete with a beefy body, the ability to life race, block regardless, and many other things too.
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Aug 11, 2014 21:54
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Cactrot posted:My solution to Rev is to play aggro decks that can kill them before they can cast it. My problem with rev is that I really want to play Bant Midrange. And once you have White/Blue and cards that trigger off lifegain and card draw, you might as well run Revelation. And once you run Revelation you might as well have some counterspells to protect it and Jace to help draw threats, and I mean you might as well put in Detention Sphere because it can grab almost anything, oh and supreme verdict because all your midrange creatures are late game anyways. And at that point you start cutting your creatures to make room... Well with no creatures you might as well drop green. ...and that's how I went from running a pretty fun Bant Midrange deck that usually placed in FNM to running U/W Control that always placed.
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Aug 11, 2014 22:15
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kzin602 posted:My problem with rev is that I really want to play Bant Midrange. And once you have White/Blue and cards that trigger off lifegain and card draw, you might as well run Revelation. And once you run Revelation you might as well have some counterspells to protect it and Jace to help draw threats, and I mean you might as well put in Detention Sphere because it can grab almost anything, oh and supreme verdict because all your midrange creatures are late game anyways. And at that point you start cutting your creatures to make room... Well with no creatures you might as well drop green. As well as Syncopate, Dissolve, Elspeth, and Aetherling too, right? 
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Aug 11, 2014 22:18
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bhsman posted:As well as Syncopate, Dissolve, Elspeth, and Aetherling too, right? Well yea, naturally. I've since compromised by running Bant Superfriends, but I will be happy to see Revelation and Packrat rotate out. Unfortunately it will rotate out at the same time as Archangel of Thune and the Simic +1/+1 counter shenanigans.
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Aug 11, 2014 22:21
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kzin602 posted:Well yea, naturally. Yeah, that's another unfortunate side of Rev is that it warps the entire deck around it, whereas Thragtusk was gracious enough to only take up a little space. It's also why I think it's laughable when people say the format would be totally in favor of Black without Rev, because there's no loving way anyone would build UW Control without it.
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Aug 11, 2014 22:24
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Without Rev, Black and Black-White would be... exactly where they are now.
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Aug 11, 2014 22:27
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bhsman posted:Yeah, that's another unfortunate side of Rev is that it warps the entire deck around it, whereas Thragtusk was gracious enough to only take up a little space. You are right, Thragtusk is just a good card that stands on it's own. but you know a restoration angel would really make it shine, and if you have a restoration angel you might as well put in a snapcaster mage... 
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Aug 11, 2014 22:30
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kzin602 posted:You are right, Thragtusk is just a good card that stands on it's own. but you know a restoration angel would really make it shine, and if you have a restoration angel you might as well put in a snapcaster mage... And Bant-tusk was a popular deck, but plenty of decks ran Resto-tusk or even just Thragtusk because it was so good. Awesome literary reference, btw. 
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Aug 11, 2014 22:32
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Now I want a cookie. And then I'm gonna want some milk. And then it's been well over a decade since I read that book so I forget how the rest of it goes.
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Aug 11, 2014 22:33
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I think the funnest Sphinx deck was Melissa DeTora's bant control list that splashed red for Kessig Wolf Run and a Gisela in the sideboard.
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Aug 11, 2014 22:44
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Cernunnos posted:Now I want a cookie. And then I'm gonna want some milk. And then it's been well over a decade since I read that book so I forget how the rest of it goes. Having read it to my daughter a couple of hours ago, I can assure you that in the end, he's going to want another cookie.
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Aug 11, 2014 22:47
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Niton posted:Eidolon of the Great Revel has been giving non-Burn players fits all the way down to Eternal formats recently, as well. It seems like in order to hit Eternal-playable, your card has to be one of 3 things: You know what hits two of those three criteria? This guy:  
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Aug 11, 2014 22:57
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God this draft I just did was screwed up. The packs are all over the place. What do I even do with this? https://www.dropbox.com/s/iyvg5on9140gmrz/20140811_180410.jpg vvvv: it's 1 and 2 Constricting Slivers. :/ suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Aug 11, 2014 23:05
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suicidesteve posted:God this draft I just did was screwed up. The packs are all over the place. What do I even do with this? Perhaps take a better picture because god drat I'm squinting. If that's what I think it is (Which is to say, three Triplicate Spirits), hit 6 of both land/creatures asap is your goal, because Triplicate Spirits can't lose.
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Aug 11, 2014 23:07
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Cernunnos posted:I forgot Slaughter Games can't be countered. Yeah I'd run that instead until rotation. My Minotaur deck runs one maindeck Slaughter Games for the shits&giggles (and because I seem to never draw my few 4drops normally anyway so it's not a major loss) and it finally paid off against a Jund Monsters deck when I nuked his Stormbreaths the turn before he was going to play one. The other fun Minotaur deck trick against Jund/Mono-Green is to play a Felhide Petrifier right after they play Polukranos. "Sure, dump all your mana into killing one of my minotaur combo pieces or my 1-toughness Scarhides, you're not getting a fat hydra out of it anymore" For such a relatively straightforward deck, I seem to generate one judge call a week, and it's always over the same thing (Deathtouch + Trample). Minotaurs own as long as you're not playing against U/W(/X?) decks. Post your decklist in the Brewhaus?
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Aug 11, 2014 23:11
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Entropic posted:I think the funnest Sphinx deck was Melissa DeTora's bant control list that splashed red for Kessig Wolf Run and a Gisela in the sideboard. I had a friend who ran a deck similar to that; the Wolf Run was always a huge surprise for those not familiar with the list.
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Aug 11, 2014 23:16
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Archenteron posted:My Minotaur deck runs one maindeck Slaughter Games for the shits&giggles (and because I seem to never draw my few 4drops normally anyway so it's not a major loss) and it finally paid off against a Jund Monsters deck when I nuked his Stormbreaths the turn before he was going to play one. Is the judge call about assigning enough damage to kill a creature and with it having deathtouch you only need to assign one before assigning the rest as trample?
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Aug 11, 2014 23:30
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Count Bleck posted:You know what hits two of those three criteria? And he does, pretty obviously, break the colour pie... 
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Aug 11, 2014 23:31
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Clearly, Mono-Pingers.dec to win Legacy Gran Prix 2014.
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Aug 11, 2014 23:35
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Oraculum Animi posted:Is the judge call about assigning enough damage to kill a creature and with it having deathtouch you only need to assign one before assigning the rest as trample? Usually this is exactly the case with Deathtouch + Trample.
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Aug 11, 2014 23:37
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suicidesteve posted:God this draft I just did was screwed up. The packs are all over the place. What do I even do with this? I was actually in that same event, nothing made sense and I ended up getting kinda forced into this 3x Ensoul Artifact deck with 2 darksteel citadels, 2x ornithoper, hot soup monstrosity. Lost in round 1 to Kird Chieftain and not drawing one half of the combo in each loss.
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Aug 11, 2014 23:49
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TheLawinator posted:I was actually in that same event, nothing made sense and I ended up getting kinda forced into this 3x Ensoul Artifact deck with 2 darksteel citadels, 2x ornithoper, hot soup monstrosity. Lost in round 1 to Kird Chieftain and not drawing one half of the combo in each loss. Haha. It was so screwed up. My colors just disappeared halfway through pack 2 and 3 so I ended up having just... stuff. My Bant monstrosity is going pretty well so far. I'm up a game in match 2. Edit: and I get 0/2'd in the third round thanks to not finding land 3 until my 5th turn. As usual. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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Aug 12, 2014 00:08
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Why does that Callbox deck on SCG look so... appealing to me? It's a big RUG mess of Stuff that gets Tutored by Chord, apparently it 4-0'd a daily so I'm at least impressed it actually functions.
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Aug 12, 2014 00:41
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Cernunnos posted:Usually this is exactly the case with Deathtouch + Trample. (Both times the blocker lives but you still only assign one damage and the rest tramples through, right?)
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Aug 12, 2014 01:30
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Jonked posted:Have an indestructible/prot. Black blocker and I'd probably call over the judge too. Correct. You assign what would be lethal damage, then either the creature just isn't destroyed by that damage (in the case of indestructible) or that damage is prevented (in the case of protection).
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Aug 12, 2014 01:35
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So how did everyone fare at GD this past weekend? Hadn't played standard since Zendikar, but I managed to put together a 5 color slivers deck for this weekend. Saturday was kind of a bust, going only 1-3, but I made some changes and went 2-2 the second day (managed to get at least one of each promo). Would have had that 3-1 but this white/blue deck in round three had me to a point where I had to pay something like 33 mana to swing with one creature.
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Aug 12, 2014 01:39
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I have a semblance anvil out that has a creature, lets say gold myr, imprinted on it. Can I cast myr superion for free? I want to say yes, since I'm not using mana from a non-creature source. The wording on superion makes it sound like you have to use some mana from a creature to cast it, but I don't think thats right and want to be sure. My local shop runs bad tribal league and I thought about running myr tribal.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:I have a semblance anvil out that has a creature, lets say gold myr, imprinted on it. Can I cast myr superion for free? I want to say yes, since I'm not using mana from a non-creature source. The wording on superion makes it sound like you have to use some mana from a creature to cast it, but I don't think thats right and want to be sure. My local shop runs bad tribal league and I thought about running myr tribal. You can indeed. This is the same as Heartless Summoning into free Myr Superion or Convoking it down via Chief Engineer.
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Cernunnos posted:You can indeed. This is the same as Heartless Summoning into free Myr Superion or Convoking it down via Chief Engineer. Convoking it may not work anymore as they've changed it from a cost reduction to an alternate means of paying for a spell. It may still work, I'm not a judge.
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End of Life Guy posted:Convoking it may not work anymore as they've changed it from a cost reduction to an alternate means of paying for a spell. I wasn't aware of this and would like to know. Thought about squeezing some chief engineers in there.
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Aug 12, 2014 01:58
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Fingers McLongDong posted:I wasn't aware of this and would like to know. Thought about squeezing some chief engineers in there. I want to say it does work but I'm not a Judge. Sorry.
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Aug 12, 2014 02:00
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Not a judge, but I'm 99% sure the only thing that Myr Superion cares about is whether all the mana that was spent on it came from a creature, not how much mana that was.
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vOv posted:Not a judge, but I'm 99% sure the only thing that Myr Superion cares about is whether all the mana that was spent on it came from a creature, not how much mana that was. I'm pretty sure you're correct but I always ask just to be sure before I start building a deck and hunting cards.
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/\/\: You'll probably end up getting a Judge call anyway. Fingers McLongDong posted:I wasn't aware of this and would like to know. Thought about squeezing some chief engineers in there. My question for you is: Original Mirrodin Myrs or Scars Myrs or a mix?
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Aug 12, 2014 02:11
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Since we're asking Convoke questions, can I tap a creature to help cast a spell with Convoke, then sacrifice that creature to Phyrexian Tower for the BB to spend on that same spell?
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Aug 12, 2014 02:19
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qbert posted:Since we're asking Convoke questions, can I tap a creature to help cast a spell with Convoke, then sacrifice that creature to Phyrexian Tower for the BB to spend on that same spell?
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Aug 12, 2014 02:24
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qbert posted:Since we're asking Convoke questions, can I tap a creature to help cast a spell with Convoke, then sacrifice that creature to Phyrexian Tower for the BB to spend on that same spell? Nope. Specifically, you convoke while paying mana, and at that point it's too late to activate a mana ability. This is a change from how it used to work.
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qbert posted:Since we're asking Convoke questions, can I tap a creature to help cast a spell with Convoke, then sacrifice that creature to Phyrexian Tower for the BB to spend on that same spell? Nope. Figures that what I thought was clear as day is needlessly complex. Magic 2014 Comprehensive rules Update posted:"When it comes time to pay the spell's costs (rule 601.2g), you can tap creatures rather than pay mana. Note that this is after you have a chance to activate mana abilities (rule 601.2f). This means that if you intend to sacrifice a creature to activate a mana ability, you can't also tap that creature for convoke." Mouth Ze Dong fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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Cernunnos posted:/\/\: You'll probably end up getting a Judge call anyway. Looking like a mix right now. I played a lot in the original mirrodin block but missed scars so I'm going through and catching up on my options. I'll probably post in the deckbuilding thread when I make up my mind. Myr are neat lil dudes 
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