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BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

If counters aren't in Runemaster I'm boycotting.

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Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

BBJoey posted:

If counters aren't in Runemaster I'm boycotting.

What's the NATO symbol for "Angry troll with a club?"

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


BBJoey posted:

If counters aren't in Runemaster I'm boycotting.

The level of betrayal I felt when Paradox announced their new RPG without the option to use NATO counters tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Vodos posted:

Yes, if you log out of the forums then try to log back in, there should be an option to turn the forum account into a paradox account, or merge them or something, it's been a while.
Pretty sure I did that back when that was changed, and besides, I can't find the option if I log out and back in.

VerdantSquire
Jul 1, 2014

I modded unit counters into EU4 and CK2. It was the only way I could feel anything when playing those games.

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

VerdantSquire posted:

I modded unit counters into EU4 and CK2. It was the only way I could feel anything when playing those games.

Link?

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
What is the NATO counter for "War Elephants"?

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

DrSunshine posted:

What is the NATO counter for "War Elephants"?

Cavalry.

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006

DrSunshine posted:

What is the NATO counter for "War Elephants"?

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Cavalry symbol with two short vertical lines: " superimposed to be tusks.

Asehujiko
Apr 6, 2011
Didn't somebody make a really good looking mongol horse archer token for ck2 here before?

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Asehujiko posted:

Didn't somebody make a really good looking mongol horse archer token for ck2 here before?

This one? :v:

Asehujiko
Apr 6, 2011

DStecks posted:

For the Balkans, of course. Piss off as many people as possible, all at once.

But seriously, Paradox should just do it as a packaged font. The text is being dynamically generated anyway.
Make the game check your location and change the user's country to comic sans.

And when the copy protection detects a pirate, EVERYBODY gets comic sans.

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Looking back, downloading the HoI3 demo when it came out and realizing that Paradox accidentally uploaded the full game instead seems like an inauspicious sign

Morholt
Mar 18, 2006

Contrary to popular belief, tic-tac-toe isn't purely a game of chance.

Clip your counters :argh:

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Goetta posted:

Looking back, downloading the HoI3 demo when it came out and realizing that Paradox accidentally uploaded the full game instead seems like an inauspicious sign

Wait, what? That's a thing that happened? I never heard about that.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


catlord posted:

Wait, what? That's a thing that happened? I never heard about that.

Yes and it was awesome. I mean the game loving sucked back then but it was awesome getting it for free. I ended up buying it anyway later, ya know, because of Steam.

If I remember right, when you launched it a screen popped up prompting you into some demo scenario but you could just click X and be at the main menu for the full game.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

When is Paradox's Gamescom thingy anyway?

Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

Luigi Thirty posted:

When is Paradox's Gamescom thingy anyway?

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?794991-Paradox-Fancon-Press-Conference-Livestream-this-Thursday-at-21-00cest

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Ok, I can't seem to find an answer anywhere, so in Darkest Hour/Kiaserreich how should I be weighing tech team skill and specialisations? Should I pick a team with 2 of the 5 focuses and skill 5, or a team with one focus but skill 6? If I have a single 9 skill team, should I use them for techs that my other teams only match 1 or two of the focuses even if the 9 skill team has no relevant focuses? I can't seem to find any discussion or answer around this topic, so I would like some guidance.

ArchRanger
Mar 19, 2007
I'm tired of following my dreams, I'm just gonna ask where they're goin' and meet up with 'em there.

nothing to seehere posted:

Ok, I can't seem to find an answer anywhere, so in Darkest Hour/Kiaserreich how should I be weighing tech team skill and specialisations? Should I pick a team with 2 of the 5 focuses and skill 5, or a team with one focus but skill 6? If I have a single 9 skill team, should I use them for techs that my other teams only match 1 or two of the focuses even if the 9 skill team has no relevant focuses? I can't seem to find any discussion or answer around this topic, so I would like some guidance.

They way I heard it forever ago is that one specialization is worth roughly two points of skill, but it varies based on how much that particular specialization is used for the tech (the numbers beside each category when you select the tech).

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

nothing to seehere posted:

Ok, I can't seem to find an answer anywhere, so in Darkest Hour/Kiaserreich how should I be weighing tech team skill and specialisations? Should I pick a team with 2 of the 5 focuses and skill 5, or a team with one focus but skill 6? If I have a single 9 skill team, should I use them for techs that my other teams only match 1 or two of the focuses even if the 9 skill team has no relevant focuses? I can't seem to find any discussion or answer around this topic, so I would like some guidance.

Speaking from my completely unscientific gut feeling, I think the focuses are generally better than the skill, but I have no idea exactly how.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
I believe having a focus doubles the effective skill of the team when it is being used.

Tech teams also cost money based on their base skill, so a team with skill 4 and all the focuses will research at the same speed as a skill 8 team with no focuses, but will cost half as much money to do it.

I love the gaps in the tech teams you get in Hearts of Iron 2 - I always end up with Hermann Goering researching antibiotics or tractors or something.

wargames
Mar 16, 2008

official yospos cat censor
Tech teams was an interesting aspect of HoI2.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Decrepus posted:

Yes and it was awesome. I mean the game loving sucked back then but it was awesome getting it for free. I ended up buying it anyway later, ya know, because of Steam.

If I remember right, when you launched it a screen popped up prompting you into some demo scenario but you could just click X and be at the main menu for the full game.

Oh, Paradox. :3:


Was there any way in which the HoI3 release was not a total clusterfuck?

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Wasn't there something about turns taking years because a typo made it run every single country's AI sequence while processing a single AI country's turn?

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
What's "Pillars of Eternity" supposed to be anyway? It's mentioned in that linked Paradox forums post.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Luigi Thirty posted:

Wasn't there something about turns taking years because a typo made it run every single country's AI sequence while processing a single AI country's turn?

That might be it, I don't remember exactly why it took so long, but it took hours to get through 1936.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

DrSunshine posted:

What's "Pillars of Eternity" supposed to be anyway? It's mentioned in that linked Paradox forums post.

Obsidian's RPG successor to the old Infinity Engine (Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale) games.

It's being distributed/'published' by Paradox.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

DrSunshine posted:

What's "Pillars of Eternity" supposed to be anyway? It's mentioned in that linked Paradox forums post.

Obsidians Kickstarter RPG. Paradox is publishing.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



wargames posted:

Tech teams was an interesting aspect of HoI2.

They were a great way of adding flavor and a degree of guidance to different countries.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
Tech teams are way better than hoi3's tech system.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009
I liked both, they should be combined. Maybe using your officer pool to build new tech teams.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


A "Best of Both Worlds" system would probably be tech teams just being specializations that you attach to a project while leadership determines the overall speed (That'd be great for Kaiserreich, since it's a bitch to balance the tech teams of stuff like the ACW), or have them be upgradeable somehow.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

uPen posted:

Tech teams are way better than hoi3's tech system.

Agreed hoi4 should use them and add a mechanic where using a tech team increases its skill or gives it a new specialization. The dearth of carrier tech teams outside of the allies and Japan is maddening.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
You should be able to sink money into upgrading tech teams.

VerdantSquire
Jul 1, 2014


No. Its my precious, and no one will ever take it from me. :tinfoil:

PhantomZero
Sep 7, 2007
Has there been a discussion about multiplayer? I was playing EU4 with a friend as the same country and I thought it would be a fun thing to have in HoI4. It allows new players to see whats going on and only focus on one thing such as the eastern front or something. It can become a clusterfuck if you try it with more than 2 people however. I thought it might be interesting to split up functions like one person plays the head of state and he can choose production/diplo/tech etc. and distribute troops to one or more generals, it would emphasize teamwork and coordination.

At the very least I hope we don't go backwards with multiplayer features a la TW:Rome 2. I was really impressed by the jump in stability from EU3 -> CK2 -> EU4 and hope the trend continues.

PhantomZero fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Aug 13, 2014

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Looks like tech teams are in!




paradox forums just argue over Hitler wearing the Knights Cross THAT HE NEVER RECEIVED!!1!

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Kersch
Aug 22, 2004
I like this internet
Has there been any word whether there will be EU4-related news at Gamescom? I remember reading a quote that the next EU4 expansion was going to be larger than any expansion they've done yet for either CK2 or EU4 so it'd be interesting to find out about that.

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