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Shugojin posted:If Hellsing started out as porn it sure made its transition to being about Alucard killing poo poo pretty quickly. More like the author started out doing porn--which is a common thing in manga. I can think of other mangaka beyond the ones listed, including one who started out with some really hardcore poo poo and now does fluffy and cute manga.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:If this ushers in a new era of mangaka doing guilty porn to get money for ambitious projects, I will not know how to feel. If the result is stuff like Me and the Devil Blues I am fine with whatever basically. Schlock is going to be made regardless anyway.
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Aug 9, 2014 23:03
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Prison school is way better than whatever other manga that guy makes.
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Aug 9, 2014 23:17
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Shugojin posted:If Hellsing started out as porn it sure made its transition to being about Alucard killing poo poo pretty quickly. It wasn't called Hellsing when it was porn, but all the characters were the same.
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Captain Invictus posted:But Prison School is really good too. I've posted about it before, but it's basically the author, after having Devil Blues get cancelled, go "you want lowest common denominator smut, you horrible shitbags? Have all the censors will allow!" and made one of the most cynical, condescending, over-serious, absurd, insulting, borderline porn series out there. It actively rubs the smuttiness in your face, to the point where the vice-president's word bubbles point to her crotch, rather than her mouth. Where every character has the rationality and common sense of a plank of wood, but plays each and every situation 100% deadly seriously no matter how mindblowingly stupid it may be. I dunno about you but personally I'd rather read a good story than a story that's ironically, subversively poo poo. It's still poo poo.
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Captain Invictus posted:But when you learn a little bit of the history of the author's prior work and the result of it, it makes PS make so much more sense. That doesn't really change what I want to read. I mean I can respect that the To Love-Ru guy's personal life blew the gently caress up in the most insane way possible and he absolutely made the right personal decision to go hard[well, even harder] on the soft porn to make bank, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm not gonna knock anyone for making that move either, but making pandering ecchi bullshit for all the right reasons still leaves you with pandering ecchi bullshit at the end of the day. The fact this dude is using the success of his pandering ecchi bullshit to go back and do something unique and interesting is cool though.
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Boogaleeboo posted:That doesn't really change what I want to read. I mean I can respect that the To Love-Ru guy's personal life blew the gently caress up in the most insane way possible and he absolutely made the right personal decision to go hard[well, even harder] on the soft porn to make bank, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm not gonna knock anyone for making that move either, but making pandering ecchi bullshit for all the right reasons still leaves you with pandering ecchi bullshit at the end of the day. The To Love-Ru guy gets every pass in the world. What happened to him was nuts, and he was getting tons of poo poo online until he or someone else revealed the story and everyone backed off. Short story - Author marries a woman he's crazy in love with, starts the series and designs the non-alien main harem girl after her - Author and wife have a kid, the series starts to get really popular - At some point the wife started an affair with some teenager she met online - Wife basically up and leaves the author, takes the child and holds the child for ransom - Author is freaking the gently caress out, still making his manga chapters on time, but he's almost falling apart - Author more or less buys his child back from the wife, has to cancel the series because she was trying to claim 50% ownership because a character is based on her, this is a strenuous 6-8 month affair - Ends up restarting/relaunching the series, as a new IP I'm not sure if his wife still has ownership or nit - Author get his kid back, severs from the wife, can now only work on a monthly release because he's a full time parent Here's the full story as clear as I can find it quote:The common consesus in the TLR threads is that, Yabuki had to quit because he can't be a full time mangaka for a weekly series and taking care of his little girl (she's three) at the same time (now that he has full custody). pentyne fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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AnonSpore posted:I dunno about you but personally I'd rather read a good story than a story that's ironically, subversively poo poo. And you'll get to, thanks to the success of Prison School after the initial failure of Devil Blues.  You might be misunderstanding me though. Prison School is a "good" series. It is not a good series.
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 No but for real, with all the drama of exile, finding a fortune, and a planned return, all we need is some vengence and the resemblance of Hiramoto's story to the Count of Monte Cristo will be complete.
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Captain Invictus posted:And you'll get to, thanks to the success of Prison School after the initial failure of Devil Blues. Yeah, I get you. I'm just saying I have no interest in reading something like Prison School personally, no matter how subversive or critical it is.
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I can totally respect that. I personally find Prison School's fanservice repugnant, rather than titillating, but it's fairly easily skipped even though there's an insane amount of it. I more enjoy the absurd spectacle of it all combined with the subtext.
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Help! Im afriad to get boners when I read epically sexy manga.
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Whenever the underground student council vice presidents massive boobs go flying out of her prison outfit I just close my eyes and swipe mangastorm as hard as I can to the right and try to remember the good times like the epic Shota doujinshi Zorak sent me on IRC last Saturday. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Pewdiepie posted:Help! Im afriad to get boners when I read epically sexy manga. The best way to handle this is to post about the literary subtext of panties and titties, and completely ignore the girth of your boner, and deny all allegations thereof
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Captain Invictus posted:I can totally respect that. I personally find Prison School's fanservice repugnant, rather than titillating, but it's fairly easily skipped even though there's an insane amount of it. I more enjoy the absurd spectacle of it all combined with the subtext. So you read prison school not for the fanservice but for the intricate plot. Please refer to me whatever re-education clinic you attended lmfao.
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Hoodrich posted:So you read prison school not for the fanservice but for the intricate plot. Please refer to me whatever re-education clinic you attended lmfao. Pewdiepie posted:Whenever the underground student council vice presidents massive boobs go flying out of her prison outfit I just close my eyes and swipe mangastorm as hard as I can to the right and try to remember the good times like the epic Shota doujinshi Zorak sent me on IRC last Saturday. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Aug 11, 2014 03:51
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You're literally afraid to post about jacking off to animes with giant awesome breasts in a forum full of pedophiles.
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That's not nice to say about SA young man! edit: I don't find the characters in Prison School appealing, they look like sausage people, like they're under too much internal pressure. I wasn't aware I'm required to pop a boner because tits are present and I can't just enjoy something for the spectacle, thanks for enlightening me!
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Aug 11, 2014 04:16
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Pewdiepie posted:Prison school is way better than whatever other manga that guy makes.
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Hoodrich posted:You're literally afraid to post about jacking off to animes with giant awesome breasts in a forum full of pedophiles. A very common theme in anime is denial of self, this is just what we like to call "living the ascetic"
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Prison School is hilarious with or without the tits and the principal's rear end fanservice.
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Puukko naamassa posted:Somebody has started translating Dog Soldier by Tetsuya Saruwatari (probably best known for Tough and Riki-Oh). It's about John It's worth noting that this has an 80s OVA based off of it and it's on Youtube and it's loving hilariously bad.
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New Immortal Hounds, in which two robots try to learn the meaning of love
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Captain Invictus posted:New Immortal Hounds, in which two robots try to learn the meaning of love I like the way this might be heading. The "RDS" hunting police (or at least the chief) gradually starting to question themselves could be interesting to read.
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Awesome! I've been eagerly waiting for more chapters. I look forward to blood-soaked shenanigans. I do appreciate that the Inspector immediately suspected her, and most certainly doesn't trust her motives.
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Captain Invictus posted:New Immortal Hounds, in which two robots try to learn the meaning of love I know they are the same artist, but the other escape artist chick looks too much like the younger sister in Uwagaki and it makes me double take like every other page.
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Holy poo poo, 3.5 million copies?! That would be a lot even in a country with the population of the US, much less Japan.
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loving incredible edit; Okay a Kodansha award is like a generalised 'we liked this' thing? That's still funny. Pierson fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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Aug 12, 2014 23:41
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Hahaha, no wonder he can afford to finance the series he actually wants to make now. drat.
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I literally cannot even comprehend how it could possibly get aired. Prison School is already borderline porn, and while it is hilarious in its self-seriousness, it is going to get censored to poo poo if they even try to put it on TV at all. Maybe if they used a Cromartie style of animation for it...
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Queen's Blade was also borderline porn, I don't think it'll have any trouble.
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Captain Invictus posted:I literally cannot even comprehend how it could possibly get aired. Prison School is already borderline porn, and while it is hilarious in its self-seriousness, it is going to get censored to poo poo if they even try to put it on TV at all.
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welp goodbye Tokyo Ghoul. you were never a particularly good manga anyway, but I swear it feels like someone else took over the series at some point in the manga. dude just got tortured into having eight pack abs and goth nails and rad hair I guess and now the little girl character is starting to spout that ONI CHAN stuff and I'm just like PEACE. Like, it was never that nuanced but I swear she was just a normal little girl character and his emotions were way less hackneyed and teen girl fanfic and then it's like...    I can actually pinpoint the exact pages, it was perfect because suddenly the translations got fittingly lovely as the manga finally went full retard. Not that it was ever that great, but comparing this poo poo to the initial couple chapters is weird. finally i can stop reading this dumb manga, which is a good thing since I was barely grasping all the dumb plots and characters over the last 20 chapters or so. Gotta catch up on Arslan Senki, Boys on the Run, Crime and Punishment, Destroy and Revolution, Montage, All Rounder Meguru, Sengoku Youko....wow even Shamo...
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I honestly think it may also have to do with the fact that whoever took over translating the series is Duwang level bad
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Nine of Eight posted:I honestly think it may also have to do with the fact that whoever took over translating the series is Duwang level bad I pretty much stick exclusively to Twisted Hel Scans's releases for that reason. Which means I'm behind by some chapters, but I don't have to deal with those other groups' lovely translations (and it's not as if Twisted Hel actually dropped the chapters, there're just random people leaping ahead of them and releasing often literally random chapters). That said, while I haven't found Tokyo Ghoul bad enough for me to drop it yet, there are better series out there and if it came down to a choice between keeping up on it and keeping up on those other series, I'd pick the other series in a heatbeat. I might just make this choice eventually. Kaja Rainbow fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Nine of Eight posted:I honestly think it may also have to do with the fact that whoever took over translating the series is Duwang level bad But yeah, I gotta prioritize at this point and Tokyo Ghoul just doesn't really make the cut...
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