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PneumonicBook posted:Seconding this. I'm assuming you didn't just because a lot of people come in here and ignore a lot of what we say for whatever reason. Yeah, then he just kind of faded away.
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LingcodKilla posted:Kinda feels like you tell everyone that no matter the rating. That's cuz every job is pretty lovely, mostly due to the fact you are in the Navy and dealing with inept leadership. All jobs are pretty poo poo, just some are more poo poo than others, and some offer more opportunities when you get out.
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Every time I being to worry about job hunting in the civilian world and realizing how easy it is to get a paycheck in the Navy, I come to this thread and you guys steer me in the right direction. FTN 21 months left.
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bengy81 posted:That's cuz every job is pretty lovely, mostly due to the fact you are in the Navy and dealing with inept leadership. All jobs are pretty poo poo, just some are more poo poo than others, and some offer more opportunities when you get out. I don't know, I've always enjoyed the actual NEC part of my job, whether that be display, acnt, or teaching. Really it's all of the extraneous garbage that makes it such poo poo.
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Quote is not edit. I blame the awful app.
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Pandasmores posted:Yeah, then he just kind of faded away. Wasn't that Ryand-Smith?
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PneumonicBook posted:I don't know, I've always enjoyed the actual NEC part of my job, whether that be display, acnt, or teaching. Really it's all of the extraneous garbage that makes it such poo poo. while on station on westpac was the only time i did my real job, and enjoyed it
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bengy81 posted:That's cuz every job is pretty lovely, mostly due to the fact you are in the Navy and dealing with inept leadership. All jobs are pretty poo poo, just some are more poo poo than others, and some offer more opportunities when you get out. Today one of the third classes demonstrated that the thyroid is in the thigh. The frightened look of the doctors was hilarious. A first realized just how long HM clinicals (2 weeks) are compared to the training for medical doctors (5+ years), with some of the flight surgeons not even having their MD but actually are interns waiting to go to whatever specialty it is that they wanted to do. I was also told that my outlook on helping out people would probably hinder me from ever making Chief because I don't stab backs enough or let people fail themselves. This was a good day.
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how to make chief : 1. take credit for everything anyone under you does 2. bash the gently caress out of your underlings 3. write yourself up for sweet medals this is how my first lpo got chief, and also how 2 other guys on my boat did it
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isn't that navyadvancement.txt ?
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Christoff posted:isn't that navyadvancement.txt ? its harder to write yourself up for medals if you aren't already e-6, unless you're a yeoman or something
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Yeah but who makes it to e-6 without at least 3-4 NAMs already?
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I found out that my last ship would have given me at least one and possibly two more NAMs while I was there if I had written them up.
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PneumonicBook posted:I don't know, I've always enjoyed the actual NEC part of my job, whether that be display, acnt, or teaching. Really it's all of the extraneous garbage that makes it such poo poo. Yeah, but how much time on the ship did you actually spend doing your job vs cleaning or doing something "cuz  "fake edit: I guess I enjoyed being a tech when I was allowed to do something not involving the skids and when the old man wasn't popping in to our shops randomly to make sure the radar was still turning.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I found out that my last ship would have given me at least one and possibly two more NAMs while I was there if I had written them up. A good piece of advice for anyone in a position to write awards (so I guess at the minimum the WCS level) is to constantly write them. In my workcenter I left with three NAMs, my replacement left with three NAMs, and two others had two. I'd like to think me constantly routing NAMS up every month had something to do with that. bengy81 posted:Yeah, but how much time on the ship did you actually spend doing your job vs cleaning or doing something "cuz You remember how awesome some of our techs were right? I did a lot of technician stuff, probably more than I should have been doing towards the end. I didn't even mind the poo poo I was doing as CSMM A (paper bitch) like rewriting the aloft instruction because it was a tangible thing that had an actual point, as opposed to repainting the same P-Way three times in one deployment for reasons. I'm pretty sure yo ufelt the same way when you weren't writing loving spreadsheets constantly. Which I guess was pretty much never unfortunately.
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PneumonicBook posted:A good piece of advice for anyone in a position to write awards (so I guess at the minimum the WCS level) is to constantly write them. In my workcenter I left with three NAMs, my replacement left with three NAMs, and two others had two. I'd like to think me constantly routing NAMS up every month had something to do with that. Ya, that's why I like my job now, I get to do what I was trained to do, with minimal interference. My direct supervisor does a fantastic job of catching the B.S. and he really only bugs us for stuff if he really needs something from us. At this point, it's almost enjoyable to get pulled away from my normal job to do bullshit.
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Someone tell me how sweet it is to get out and go to school on post 9/11 gi bill and yellow ribbon. Plus bitches and all that jazz. Just need some words of encouragement to keep pushing to my minimum service obligation.
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Howard Phillips posted:Someone tell me how sweet it is to get out and go to school on post 9/11 gi bill and yellow ribbon. Plus bitches and all that jazz. Just need some words of encouragement to keep pushing to my minimum service obligation. Not being in the Navy is pretty sweet, I would highly recommend separating. Best decision I ever made.
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All the combat army and marine vets I know at work are kinda messed up and come to think of it they all (5) got fired for some really dumb poo poo except the intensely quiet guy. I guess the armored car business isn't exciting enough for them. We don't have any Navy or Airforce post 9/11 vets. They must be at better paying more interesting jobs.
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Howard Phillips posted:Someone tell me how sweet it is to get out and go to school on post 9/11 gi bill and yellow ribbon. Plus bitches and all that jazz. Just need some words of encouragement to keep pushing to my minimum service obligation. I got out and got into Penn on the strength of some really great letters of recommendation I got from the officers I worked for. My life consists of science classes taught by legit geniuses, full of brilliant and beautiful women and laughing my rear end off at all the people who are sinking deeper into debt while I figuratively roll around like scrooge mcduck in federally supplied gold coins. My beard is coming in nicely, and I don't ever have to pee in a cup while some douchebag E6 looks at my dick. This is the most hilariously awesome my life has ever been by an enormous margin. Finish your time, get that honorable discharge and never look back. You can do it, the days may drag but the months will fly.
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Come to think of it does anyone not opt for the post 9/11 I'm not even out yet but I know dudes making like $5k a month with BAH, unemployment, VA comp state benefits etc I didn't get any bonus when I enlisted but I did get the Navy college kicker fund which is what an extra $200/week for nothing? Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Christoff posted:Come to think of it does anyone not opt for the post 9/11 The only reason I've heard is that some vocational/technical training that requires OJT (for example, pilot license flight hours) aren't covered as well. There are a few really specific reasons, but they're few, far between, and getting slowly rectified.
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Howard Phillips posted:Someone tell me how sweet it is to get out and go to school on post 9/11 gi bill and yellow ribbon. Plus bitches and all that jazz. Just need some words of encouragement to keep pushing to my minimum service obligation. I start school in two weeks and between Miami BAH and WA unemployment (which veterans stationed there qualify for regardless of where they move) I'll be pulling in like $4K/month. Still waiting on my VA disability rating, but it should be >20% which means I'll have enough benefits time to get a master's degree through voc rehab. Once I do my loss of income appeal I'll qualify for 100% pell grant. Basically, I'll be getting paid more to go to school than I was while active duty. MancXVI fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Need some career advice. I'm an ETSA - well, almost an ETSA - and have been stuck at TSC Great Anywho, the orders billet just came in, sporting 33 fantabulous choices. Over the past long time I've been here, one thing led to another and I basically have 31 of those orders to choose from before everybody else. I've narrowed it down to three choices based on various opinions from instructors and personal preference. Unfortunately, I pick on Thursday and cannot seem to get enough information to make a decisive choice between the three. The orders: pre:Command CVN-74 J STENNIS Duty Station WA, BREMERTON NEC 1419 (EMC) OR 0000 (Random) Reason 1-2 day's drive from home, livable weather, Seattle, newest CVN on billet. pre:Command DDG-89 MUSTIN Duty Station JAPAN, HONSHU YOKOSUKA NEC 1571 (UPX-29 IFF Interrogator) Reason Shorter deployments, smallboy, interesting experience for travel and personal growth. pre:Command MCM 13 DEXTROUS Duty Station BAHRAIN, MANAMA NEC 1460 (COMSEC) Reason Huge career advancement opportunity, though it is impossible for me to tan.
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I wasn't on the Mustin but was on the JSM in Yokosuka. "Shorter deployments" means in and out 2/3 of the year, travel means tiny towns in japan, and expect some sort of certification or exercises every other month. Also Mustin is a flight 2, don't know if that changes much for your rate. About the travel, on my time of the McCain, we only went to Australia once, hong kong twice (one year was cancelled), vladivostok once, korea a lot, japanese ports most of the time. I guess saipan and guam a couple times. SPACE HOMOS fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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The Stennis sucks and Bremerton sucks harder IMO. Personally I'd go mcm just because it's not C7F
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Laranzu posted:The Stennis sucks and Bremerton sucks harder IMO. What's wrong with C7F? Keep in mind I've literally been in school since RTC. SPACE HOMOS posted:I wasn't on the Mustin but was on the JSM in Yokosuka. "Shorter deployments" means in and out 2/3 of the year, travel means tiny towns in japan, and expect some sort of certification or exercises every other month. Mustin was awarded Battle "E" five times from the Wikipedia page, so it looks like either smooth sailing or someone with a fetish for being sat (lots of rules). Then again I don't really know. I do know that it shouldn't matter what flight of DDG I end up on as an ET.
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Reacon posted:
Go to Bahrain and make fat stacks, especially if you aren't married. Hell, I am married with kids and Bahrain is high on my list for next orders.
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vulturesrow posted:Go to Bahrain and make fat stacks, especially if you aren't married. Hell, I am married with kids and Bahrain is high on my list for next orders. My one elephant in the house with Bahrain is the heat. I'm sweating profusely here in Chicago almost constantly, and burning every mandatory PT. Would I survive the heat and humidity? (I've spent 18 of my 20 years in Montana, where it never exceeds 70 in the apex of summer)
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Reacon posted:My one elephant in the house with Bahrain is the heat. I'm sweating profusely here in Chicago almost constantly, and burning every mandatory PT. Would I survive the heat and humidity? You'll get used to it. Just be smart about it. Bahrain is actually a pretty cool place to hang out although I don't how much you'll be out on an MCM since I know fuckall about ships other than the ones I've landed on.
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vulturesrow posted:You'll get used to it. Just be smart about it. Bahrain is actually a pretty cool place to hang out although I don't how much you'll be out on an MCM since I know fuckall about ships other than the ones I've landed on. I'll more seriously consider it, thanks. I need more opinions on life aboard a MCM first though.
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MancXVI posted:I think if you go to Bahrain you'll make tax-free money and get HDP the entire time. Bahrain is no longer IDP, I don't know about HDP though. Most of the rest are to Norfolk, and I simply have no desire to be on the east coast. There's a few San Diego to the Decatur, Reagon. Yokosuka on the George Washington. Everett on the Nimitz. Going to sleep now. Thank you all for the response.
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Reacon posted:What's wrong with C7F? Keep in mind I've literally been in school since RTC. C7F is like the knee-jerkiest reactionary bullshit you can deal with, crammed down your throat on a daily basis, with extra servings on the side. Do not come here, I have seen many many people snap and destroy their Navy careers to get out of 7th fleet. To be honest, go to the MCM. You will enjoy working with such a small crew, can't stay out of port long on that thing, usually a week or 2 endurance, so you will hit port many and often. Bremerton sucks as there is nothing to do as a single junior enlisted sailor that does not involve getting into some serious trouble, and carrier life is nice somewhat as you will generally have someone you can ask for advice if you need it for just about anyrhing, but you will have to deal with some pretty annoying bullshit on a carrier as well, along with never ever hitting a liberty port. orange juche fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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All of the hot foreign (British, Austrian, Australian) girls I know married to sailors met their husbands in Bahrain. So there's that. I'm in Japan now, and as far as personal growth goes there's not a lot to be had. More than Stateside, but only slightly. MUS has a crazy optempo (because C7F) but there's some cool folk on board. Everything is what you make it, but for my money I'd pick MCM every time. Also, minemen are super cool. One of my favorite rates to work with. Tight community, cool dudes (and I understand there's Chicks now, too.) Today it was 35 degrees Celsius and I was topside on a DDG all day. I was sweating my butt off and it's also 90% humidity. If you want to avoid heat, C7F is not the place to do it. Plus, it's crippling here when it snows. Like, everything stops. So heat + cold+ High optempo. All that said, I love ramen and okonomiyaki, so yay Japan, because we have the best food. But I'm on shore duty and can enjoy it.
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Japan means you'll be out to sea more often cumulatively than ships that deploy regularly stateside. You will be unduly burdened with stupid rules, will live on your ship for months before you can move into a barracks room, and won't be allowed out past midnight during any of that time. If those rules have changed, they're one dead cabbie away from being back in place. C7F locks the gently caress down on liberty and basically anything you do. I can't speak at all to Washington because I've never been, really. Bahrain is hot, sandy, and miserably humid 80% of the year. The remaining 20% is pleasant. You'll be surrounded by some of the most liberated group of shitheads in the middle east and a lot of commonwealth folks. It's a terrible place, imo, but you'll make a fuckton of money if you're smart, have hot white foreign girls around at various bars and such, and will gain a deep appreciation for indian/malay slave labor as you can get everything delivered, including booze.
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Reacon posted:(I've spent 18 of my 20 years in Montana, where it never exceeds 70 in the apex of summer) Where in the gently caress in MT were you that it never got over 70 during summer
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krispykremessuck posted:Where in the gently caress in MT were you that it never got over 70 during summer In the mountains.
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Yeah I recall in Ennis (a valley) it only spiked to above 70 for like an hour due to sun placement. Shits pretty cold for the majority of the day.
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