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Endorph posted:Also, if you want to remove cait sith, why not just change it so Reeve himself is the spy? Wouldn't that be less work? Why come up with Original the Hedgehog? Because then they can't flaunt their e-peen about the ~so cool~ reference to Judas Iscariot and Matthias.
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Aug 13, 2014 02:27
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I thought it was a joke but no, the man recently posted about trying to edit Cait out of the ending movie so he can put his fanfic OC in.
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Aug 13, 2014 02:28
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AngryRobotsInc posted:One of the other big problems with the people doing the translation is they're....those sort of FFVII fans. The "There is no humor in this at all!" sorts. Scroll down a tad and you get this bit, on a future (psh, yeah. It's never happening) feature of the patch: How would the Ancient Temple work in this Scenario? The end scene was only possible because Cait Sith was robot and he's planning to replace him with a human.
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Aug 13, 2014 02:28
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Electric Phantasm posted:How would the Ancient Temple work in this Scenario? The end scene was only possible because Cait Sith was robot and he's planning to replace him with a human.
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Aug 13, 2014 02:29
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Pffft bahahaha. It's impressive that they have enough respect for the sanctity of the ~*~original glorious Nihongo~*~ to replace Moogle with Moguri, because it's a portmanteau of the Japanese words for "mole" and "bat" you see, while simultaneously having the requisite insight into the creators' original vision to gut out an entire character and replace him with an original creation of their own.
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Holy poo poo, that's bad. Why can't any well-grounded rational human beings work on these mods? It's always some egomaniac with god-awful taste.Electric Phantasm posted:How would the Ancient Temple work in this Scenario? The end scene was only possible because Cait Sith was robot and he's planning to replace him with a human. Just have Aeris do it instead. You can follow her ghost to the city of the Ancients. Iscar Matthias (really? really?): "I'll stay here and sacrifice my life to get the black materia. I owe it to you all for my traitorous ways, because I have grown and matured as a character." Cloud: "No! We can't lose YOU, Iscar! You are the heart and soul of this team! Aerith, you do it." Schwartzcough fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Aug 13, 2014 02:45
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Schwartzcough posted:Holy poo poo, that's bad. Why can't any well-grounded rational human beings work on these mods? It's always some egomaniac with god-awful taste. Generally because the egomaniacs with god-awful taste are the only ones who can see a translation and think both A) I can do better and B) actually attempt it, as opposed to most people, who go 'I could do better!' and then find something more important to do with their time.
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AngryRobotsInc posted:One of the other big problems with the people doing the translation is they're....those sort of FFVII fans. The "There is no humor in this at all!" sorts. Scroll down a tad and you get this bit, on a future (psh, yeah. It's never happening) feature of the patch: You know what I am a big fan of Caith Sith because playing a cat robot is a poo poo ton of fun. It's weird. It's quirky. The character is bizarre and lovable as is the rest of the FFVII cast. And FFVII is a ridiculous, absurd, campy game that is essentially a mash-up of classical fantasy and sci-fi films from the 50s-80s and that's part of its charm. Anyone who doesn't realize this obviously isn't as much of a fan as they think they are.
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Aug 13, 2014 02:53
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It's kind of amazing that the people who haven't played the game in over a decade and the people who play it religiously have about the same amount of understanding of the game's tone.
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Captain Mog posted:You know what I am a big fan of Caith Sith because playing a cat robot is a poo poo ton of fun. It's weird. It's quirky. The character is bizarre and lovable as is the rest of the FFVII cast. And FFVII is a ridiculous, absurd, campy game that is essentially a mash-up of classical fantasy and sci-fi films from the 50s-80s and that's part of its charm. Anyone who doesn't realize this obviously isn't as much of a fan as they think they are. I'd like Cait Sith a lot more if the game didn't make me go to the Gold Saucer to get him. Fuuuuck that place.
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Hellioning posted:Generally because the egomaniacs with god-awful taste are the only ones who can see a translation and think both A) I can do better and B) actually attempt it, as opposed to most people, who go 'I could do better!' and then find something more important to do with their time.
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AngryRobotsInc posted:One of the other big problems with the people doing the translation is they're....those sort of FFVII fans. The "There is no humor in this at all!" sorts. Scroll down a tad and you get this bit, on a future (psh, yeah. It's never happening) feature of the patch: Seriously, who thinks this name poo poo is ever a good idea? I mean, aside from Final Fantasy 15. Endorph posted:To be fair, the Breath of Fire 2 retranslation is pretty good. 
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Aug 13, 2014 03:08
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I'm morbidly curious as to how he plans to handle the Wall Market scenario. I would hope that he'd just axe it entirely because given what I just read, I'm pretty sure any attempt he would make at "improving" the scene would be... ugh, I don't even want to finish this thought. 
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Aug 13, 2014 03:11
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"The game I love so much would be a lot better if I wrote it."
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Aug 13, 2014 03:22
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Replace Caith Sith with Detective Joe.
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Aug 13, 2014 03:27
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quote:What this project isn't: Of course it's not.  Irony posted:Iscar is an upcoming project to replace Cait Sith with a new human character. The new character will be designed to fit in with the original game. Some story changes will be made in order to achieve this. 
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Aug 13, 2014 03:29
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A game that involves the main character crossdressing (and being found attractive) and infiltrating military compounds via dolphin jumping is too serious for Cait Sith guys
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Aug 13, 2014 03:35
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FFVII Fan Translation posted:ピッツァ２０００ PTZ2000 [Shin-Ra car tyres] Pizza 2000 This guy sounds like a delightful person and not at all insufferable.
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Aug 13, 2014 03:59
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Oh god, I didn't see Crime Hazard, that's loving amazing. I absolutely love the idea of going "hmm, this is the attack where Cloud does a giant rising slash. Clearly the word they were going for was Crime." ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Aug 13, 2014 04:08
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So are they just ignoring that Malboro is a dig at the cigarettes?
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WickedHate posted:So are they just ignoring that Malboro is a dig at the cigarettes? Has that ever been confirmed? I always thought the connection with Marlboro cigarettes is coincidental. FFWiki claims the name comes from the Latin "malum" ("bad," the origin of the English prefix 'mal-') and Greek "boros." The wiki says "boros" means "breath" but all sources I find says it means "eating," so that's probably not the right origin either. The Japanese name Moruboru sounds like it's just onomatopoeia, but I guess it's possible the English localization people saw the similarities between that and the Marlboro name and just rolled with that for localization. I think the inspiration for FFVI's Evil Oscar is pretty clear, though
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Aug 13, 2014 04:32
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Wait, no, even better: replace Caith Sith with a second Barret. Only change his dialogue so he speaks in the same style as Barrett. Never explain it.
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Mak0rz posted:Has that ever been confirmed? I always thought the connection with Marlboro cigarettes is coincidental. FFWiki claims the name comes from the Latin "malum" ("bad," the origin of the English prefix 'mal-') and Greek "boros." The wiki says "boros" means "breath" but all sources I find says it means "eating," so that's probably not true. The katakana for it is....similarish to that for Marlboro. I'm not exactly the best at deciphering what katakana means sometimes, but I'd probably make it out as Morlboru, (Marlboro in katakana is Maruboro, Malboro is from Moruboru), if I was looking at it from scratch and was thinking it was a reference to Marlboros. There's really no need to change the localized name, though, and doing so is just ~glorious nippon~ stuff.
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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:They also change "moogle" to "moguri" which I feel is just a loving insufferable thing to do. This is always, always the number one indication of a terrible fan translation.
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Aug 13, 2014 04:55
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We're talking about FFVII here right? Isn't the only Moogle that one Gold Saucer minigame?
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NikkolasKing posted:We're talking about FFVII here right? Isn't the only Moogle that one Gold Saucer minigame? Chocobo + Mog and the thing Cait Sith rides.
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There's also Snow Mogs in the snowboarding mini game (as obstacles to dodge), but I don't know if they're ever actually named in game.
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"Guys guys, we need a new traitor dude because the old traitor dude was too silly and wacky." "Hmmmm... Let's name him after Jesus' apostles and make his first name the one who betrayed him. LICK MY BOOTS, SQUARE ENIX!"
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AngryRobotsInc posted:There's also Snow Mogs in the snowboarding mini game (as obstacles to dodge), but I don't know if they're ever actually named in game. Ok, I will admit that referring to moogles as "mogs" in FFVII annoyed me. Mog is the name of A moogle, not of the entire race. But changing it to moguri or whatever is retarded.
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TARDISman posted:"Guys guys, we need a new traitor dude because the old traitor dude was too silly and wacky." To be fair, based on the names in FFXV, S-E would probably go "sure, sounds great!"
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ImpAtom posted:To be fair, based on the names in FFXV, S-E would probably go "sure, sounds great!" Fair point, but with Square Enix doing it, it's got a certain amount of dopey charm to it. It just sounds heavy handed and stupid when it's done by internet folk trying to make the largely goofy game as depressing as the expanded universe.
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Another note, on them replacing Cait Sith because "It just doesn't fit", they try to make the point that the character was probably shoe horned in at the last moment. Which is another point where they know gently caress all about the game they claim to love, or they're trying to rip concept stuff off without letting anyone know (and making it extra stupid). The Ultimania books are generally kind of whack with story extension stuff (Final Fantasy VII's world was settled by space traveling Spirans!), but they're pretty good about concept storylines/art/etc. Basically early design work. Cait Sith was there pretty much from the start. It was still a spy operated by Reeve, except in the original concept it was essentially a living being, as Reeve started as someone with the power to breath life into inanimate objects and control them from great distances. It also pretty much went through the same exact "Starts as a spy, then starts being torn between Shinra and AVALANCHE, then fully turning to their side" arc.
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If he wanted to keep Cait Sith but be spergy about it, he'd change the spelling to be like how it's pronounced.
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so does trance kuja counterattack because if so that is poo poo
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Lessail posted:so does trance kuja counterattack because if so that is poo poo When his HP gets low, he gets a counter.
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AngryRobotsInc posted:When his HP gets low, he gets a counter. great that means i almost won when he did like both flares to kill me
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Crimson Harvest posted:If he wanted to keep Cait Sith but be spergy about it, he'd change the spelling to be like how it's pronounced. Ugh, it's Gaelic you plebs, don't you know how to pronounce Gaelic? Heh, heh, you probably called them "moo-gulls" too. It's actually "moe-gur-ee" in glorious Nippon. Yeah I'd be feeling pretty stupid too if I were you right now.
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BloodWulfe posted:Ugh, it's Gaelic you plebs, don't you know how to pronounce Gaelic? Thank you, milord translator, we are all simple peasants compared to thee, oh mightiest of Rosetta Stone users.
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Crimson Harvest posted:If he wanted to keep Cait Sith but be spergy about it, he'd change the spelling to be like how it's pronounced. So Cat poo poo? (Kidding, I actually love the goofball) ImpAtom posted:Oh god, I didn't see Crime Hazard, that's loving amazing. This translation is a crime hazard. I eagerly await the end result. At least it should be more entertaining than the dry Sky Render retranslation of FF6.
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