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I think a lot of the fun of Part 4 comes from the Araki going a bit hogwild on what Stands can do. Unlike Star Platnium's ability of stopping time and punching things real good, Crazy Diamond can "return things to their original state" which is used really well when Josuke needs to do things like track a murderer or find out why Okuyasu's stomach just exploded. Stands can now do all sorts of crazy things, not just things that hurt the other guy like place sound effects, make really good food, swap faces or be a giant transmission tower that imprisons you for life. The possibilities are endless! It also saddens me greatly that Yukako's Stand, Love Deluxe was never used after it's first appearance because that is a fantastic name and a Stand that is just hair is a pretty sweet ability Also, Josuke is the best JoJo 
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Also the Italian restaurant is the best chapter in the whole series.
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Aug 13, 2014 06:13
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It's interesting how every Joestar up until Part 7 is very reactive: They have a pretty solid thing going on until an evil force threatens that and they get up and get ready to fix things back. The major exceptions are Giorno who like his Dadcula wants to exert his will in order to make his world better for him and the protagonists of the rebooted world who come into the story actually disabled in some way.
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Aug 13, 2014 07:07
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darealkooky posted:I guess my thing is that while everyone always talks about how awesome it was that it wasn't just people fighting all the time and was instead anime dudes doing random stuff, it's actually totally about people fighting all the time. I don't understand, you just listed off every reason Part 4 owns.
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Aug 13, 2014 07:10
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darealkooky posted:I mean just looking at the chapters, like 80% of part 4 is spent on long as hell fights against stand users that take an entire volume or so, including a bit near the end where thefive loving volumes in a row are just "welp, I was walking down the street and it turns out that kira's dad made another stand user, now we have to fight I guess" between the odd couple chapters of kira doing stuff as a way to pad for time between the big reveal of kira's house and the ending. Part 3's breakneck pace in introducing stand users pre-egypt gets a lot of flak, but at least if you weren't feeling a fight you had solace in knowing it was over soon. You forgot the other key difference between 3 and 4, which is that even the "filler" fights in 4 were actually really loving good    Yukako is literally the only flaw of Part 4.
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Star Platinum posted:Yukako is literally the only flaw of Part 4. Don't even play, I could post all sorts of great panels from basically every single fight in crusaders besides like, the moon and the sun. Part 4 has all sorts of silly poo poo in it, like how araki needs to give every flimsy reason possible for why joseph and jotaro don't beat everyone up in the span of 10 minutes.
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Aug 13, 2014 10:36
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darealkooky posted:Don't even play, I could post all sorts of great panels from basically every single fight in crusaders besides like, the moon and the sun. Yes, teenager with bad attitude punches man in 18 different ways is way more interesting than poo poo like highway star or superfly. I definitely agree with this good and cool opinion. 
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Uznare posted:Yes, teenager with bad attitude punches man in 18 different ways is way more interesting than poo poo like highway star or superfly. I definitely agree with this good and cool opinion. lamo
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Aug 13, 2014 11:09
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The next jojo should be like a businessman or an accountant I think.
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all jojo parts are badDrPaper posted:The next jojo should be like a businessman or an accountant I think. have you read Accountant of the North Star yet?
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Aug 13, 2014 12:34
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So I got my friend into Jojo's a while back and he ended up making this thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RruFFrbCpcs I haven't seen what the original footage is from but something tells me it'd make about the same amount of sense in context.
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cmykjester posted:He was too dumb to die. I'm inclined to believe this is the actual reason. Moltrey posted:It also saddens me greatly that Yukako's Stand, Love Deluxe was never used after it's first appearance because that is a fantastic name and a Stand that is just hair is a pretty sweet ability She uses it briefly when she realizes the Cinderella lady has been modifying her body.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:She uses it briefly when she realizes the Cinderella lady has been modifying her body. I hoped she'd actually use her powers to do something interesting in a fight, a la Bayonetta, but she didn't. In the end, there were so many other interesting characters in Part 4 we didn't see enough of and I would totally sacrifice things like the rat hunting part for just some of the side characters getting a fight.
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drat, I had just about forgotten the rat hunting part. I would kill a baby for more Tonio.
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the rat sniper bit actually owned really hard sorry you all have bad taste
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ZeroCount posted:the rat sniper bit actually owned really hard sorry you all have bad taste I would have liked the rat part better if it wasn't Jotaro and Josuke but instead trying to defeat rats with the power of Italian cooking and guilt.
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if you dont like seeing the main characters do stuff theres always part 5
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Araki probably had planned to do more with the Morioh characters, but supposedly his publisher was pushing him to move the story along quicker.
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Star Platinum posted:You forgot the other key difference between 3 and 4, which is that even the "filler" fights in 4 were actually really loving good What was wrong with Yukako? She was batshit nuts and probably the first satirization of tsundere archetypes.
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Soylentbits posted:What was wrong with Yukako? She was batshit nuts and probably the first satirization of tsundere archetypes. No she's not. She's a generic yandere who never accomplishes anything, continuing the bad writing of female characters from Part 3.
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Silver2195 posted:No she's not. She's a generic yandere who never accomplishes anything, continuing the bad writing of female characters from Part 3. I thought she was basically the first yandare though.
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Soylentbits posted:I thought she was basically the first yandare though. Part 4 is not that old.
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Man, it doesn't seem like the Jojo dvds/blurays are selling very well, second week and they're already out of the charts. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-08-12/japan-animation-blu-ray-disc-ranking-august-4-10/.77544
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Soylentbits posted:What was wrong with Yukako? She was batshit nuts and probably the first satirization of tsundere archetypes. She gets enough pagetime devoted to her to seemingly elevate her above side character status, but not enough to develop her beyond the archetype into an actual main character. It seemed she was on the way to becoming an important ally like Okuyasu or Rohan, but Araki dropped her halfway through the part, which makes her two big story arcs feel like a waste of time upon a reread. I'm not usually one to notice a lack of important female characters in a story, but it's kind of crazy that Yukako, Reimi and Shinobu "Hayato's mom because who actually remembers her name" Kawajiri are all in contention of being the closest thing Part 4 has to a female protagonist.
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mr. stefan posted:Part 4 is not that old. 1992. When did the first appearance of that character archetype pop up? Genuine question. I'm just more willing to give a pass to archetype precedents.
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Apparently it appeared in Zeta Gundam in 85, though the term itself only gained widespread use around the turn of the millennium.
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Araki did not invent crazy and possessive girlfriends.
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Beef Waifu posted:Araki did not invent crazy and possessive girlfriends. This. It was the Greeks who did.
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DrPaper posted:This. It was the Greeks who did. Nah. Gilgamesh had Ishtar. I could have sworn I read an interview he did where he wrote Yukako specifically as a subversion to the increasingly popular tsundere archetype. Pretty much all character types can probably be traced back to some mythological story trope though.
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DrPaper posted:This. It was the Greeks who did. Araki was already around at that time.
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Kurtofan posted:Man, it doesn't seem like the Jojo dvds/blurays are selling very well, second week and they're already out of the charts. You made me panic a bit, but going back a few articles, it looks like very little actually stays in the charts past week 1.
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No one but Otaku nerds buy anime dvds/blurays in Japan (And everywhere else, really) so no one should really be surprised.
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I liked Yukako's stories. They weren't highlights or anything, but they developed characters, had a lot of amusing moments and involved interesting stands. 
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How have the part 2 / 3 br been? I know there was a shitload of de-censoring and redraws for part 1.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I posted this in the Vita thread but the newly released Akiba's Trip has a JoJo's fighting style, complete with sick rear end poses It's also got the iconic ghost pants from Jojos as well I see
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I posted this in the Vita thread but the newly released Akiba's Trip has a JoJo's fighting style, complete with sick rear end poses quote:Akiba's Trip: Undead & Undressed quote:Set in Akihabara, the shopping area has been invaded by creatures known as "Synthisters" who prey on the patrons of Akihabara like vampires, feasting on their social energy and will to live. These enemies can only be stopped by direct exposure to sunlight, meaning that the player is required to defeat these demons by stripping off their clothes and exposing them to sunlight. quote:I swear to god, nothing but otaku wankbait on the vita.
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Pomp posted:I swear to god, nothing but otaku wankbait on the vita. God Damnit Goons.
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Please do not take my post as an excuse to bitch about anime games and make the thread discussion somehow even worse than stand generators.
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I'm just sad because I thought maybe there might be something neat to play on the vita for once. 
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