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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Could be she has depression or has dealt with suicidal thoughts in the past. I know it's a bit rough for me any time someone goes into detail about a suicide. I wouldn't use the word "triggering", but it's been a little tough for me as someone who's dealt with both. However, I've been pleasantly surprised by the number of friends who have posted suicide helplines, offered a private ear, and posted general "you're not alone, even if you feel you're at rock bottom I still care about you" etc type things. A little sad that it takes a big suicide to bring it out, but progress is progress.
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HonorableTB posted:What bothers me about the Christy Mack thing (besides the obvious beating) is that she's a porn star who has sex with other men for a living, and yet the MMA fighter was apparently okay with that, but not with her sleeping with another guy off camera? How do you get to that level of mental division? I mean, I'd never date a porn star anyway, but if I did it sure wouldn't be a serious, long term relationship because I couldn't expect someone who gets paid to have sex with other guys to be in a monogamous relationship. The two are mutually exclusive. Also, how is your roach-infested toilet paper hellhouse?
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A lot of the nurses I know believe in something totally unscientific: vaccines cause disease, ph balanced water is crucial, etc. My theory is that being a nurse correlates with having an inferiority complex about one's intelligence. Doctors are always bossing them around, and they have to do whatever the doc says. Patients frequently act like they know more than nurses. So these "hey, I'm a MEDICAL NURSE and I know the truth about vaccines," attitudes are a dual compensation for feeling under-intelligent and for not being listened to, ever. All of a sudden, they're the smart ones who know the TRUTH and all these parents look up to and listen to them.
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That's a really unfair look at nurses.  Reading the medical horror stories thread, nurses have a lot of crap to deal with that would leave them more dead tired then anything else.
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Aug 13, 2014 16:41
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glowing-fish posted:I've decided to go back to the classics by posting something about Hobby Lobby, since they have been drowned out by other recent events: A fine illustration of slacktivism at its best. "I'll knit a ham cozy to make myself feel like I've done something worthwhile".
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SystemLogoff posted:That's a really unfair look at nurses. There's a medical horror stories thread?
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Cuniculous posted:
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Aug 13, 2014 16:57
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Clevermuldoon posted:There's a medical horror stories thread? There is but I don't know where it is offhand. Just a fair warning, it's pretty horrible. Like need to take a shower afterwards horrible.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:13
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Aug 13, 2014 17:18
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Maker Of Shoes posted:
Whoa thats some good camo totally didn't see him at first
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Clevermuldoon posted:There's a medical horror stories thread? Ok Fella posted:There is but I don't know where it is offhand. Just a fair warning, it's pretty horrible. Like need to take a shower afterwards horrible. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3469571 Lots of AUG in text form in there. Most recent being some dude who managed to get leeches in his airway. Thin Privilege has a new favorite as of 17:36 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Maker Of Shoes posted:
I imagined a 10 year old talking as I read this and it was pretty funny.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:34
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SystemLogoff posted:That's a really unfair look at nurses. Seriously. I know a lot, and am related to a few, too. Most of them are knowledgeable, hardworking, and care a lot for their patients. It may seem like there's a lot of nurses who believe in pseudoscience and poo poo, but I think it's just bias. We don't care as much is some random person says vaccines cause autism, or cancer can be cured with the right diet, but when a medical professional says it, it sticks out more.
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Maker Of Shoes posted:
Young man, we're taking Grandma to brunch, and that's the end of it. You have five minutes to clean up and change into your church clothes, or no Playstation for a week!
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DrBouvenstein posted:Seriously. I know a lot, and am related to a few, too. Most of them are knowledgeable, hardworking, and care a lot for their patients. As it should. The only thing this whole subject makes me doubt is the efficiency of the education system. Who the gently caress takes a science class, understands it, and then is anti vaccine? Goddamn, I hate stupid people.
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Aug 13, 2014 17:51
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Isn't this mostly white people posting this poo poo?
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So Robin Williams' daughter closed her twitter account because trolls were sending her graphic photoshoped images of her dead father. Just...let that sink in. http://www.themarysue.com/zelda-williams-social-media-harassment/
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Aug 13, 2014 20:38
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Y'all are going to find idiots in every profession. Idiot nurses are just worse because of their relationship with patients. Hard not to trust someone who cleans your filth at your worst.
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Aug 13, 2014 21:10
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DemeaninDemon posted:Hard not to trust someone who cleans your filth at your worst. We're talking about nurses, not CNAs
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into the void posted:So Robin Williams' daughter closed her twitter account because trolls were sending her graphic photoshoped images of her dead father. Just...let that sink in. Reminds me of a young woman who died in a horrific car accident and photos of her mangled car with her face-less body hanging out of it got leaked to the terrible side of the internet. Tons of trolls were doing their best to trick her family into opening the photos through email etc. Last I heard every family member except her father had seen it, but maybe they finally "got" him by now, I don't know. People are so lovely.
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:Also, how is your roach-infested toilet paper hellhouse? I don't know because I haven't lived at that apartment for a year. What's your point?
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bean_shadow posted:Isn't this mostly white people posting this poo poo? Welcome to Social Justice
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From my feed, presenting another lovely installment of "Assholes on Social Media" Comments on a post about Robin Williams (I'm pink) 
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:From my feed, presenting another lovely installment of "Assholes on Social Media" Are you trying to tell us that you're the rear end in a top hat here? Because that's certainly how it looks.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:Are you trying to tell us that you're the rear end in a top hat here? Because that's certainly how it looks. Are you trying to tell us that you can't tell the difference between pink and blue? Because that's certainly how it looks.
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HonorableTB posted:I don't know because I haven't lived at that apartment for a year. What's your point? Just curious 
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Matt Walsh is an absolute piece of poo poo and despite having a one strike mute policy on anyone who shares anything from his blog, it keeps slipping through. He writes these smug, inflammatory articles meant to provoke a response, and then when people react angrily he goes and cries to other super-conservative christian news sites about the "hateful" responses he gotten  . It's just the worst.
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Centripetal Horse posted:Are you trying to tell us that you can't tell the difference between pink and blue? Because that's certainly how it looks. They're being unnecessarily hostile and intentionally obtuse though? Suicide is totally avoidable. It's not like "woops, I didn't mean to suicide, oh well!" Someone has to make a deliberate choice to do that. And they do so because it seems easier than dealing with their depression. Which is exactly what blue was saying, and then pink gets all aggressive about how it's not actually avoidable.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:They're being unnecessarily hostile and intentionally obtuse though? Suicide is totally avoidable. It's not like "woops, I didn't mean to suicide, oh well!" Someone has to make a deliberate choice to do that. And they do so because it seems easier than dealing with their depression. Which is exactly what blue was saying, and then pink gets all aggressive about how it's not actually avoidable. You do not know what you are talking about
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eating only apples posted:You do not know what you are talking about poo poo you're right, suicide is completely unavoidable, and there's nothing that anyone can do to prevent it, nor any resources available to people considering it.
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edit: ^^  GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:They're being unnecessarily hostile and intentionally obtuse though? Suicide is totally avoidable. It's not like "woops, I didn't mean to suicide, oh well!" Someone has to make a deliberate choice to do that. And they do so because it seems easier than dealing with their depression. Which is exactly what blue was saying, and then pink gets all aggressive about how it's not actually avoidable. It's not as simple as being simply "avoidable" and saying it's the "easy way out" is stupid.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:They're being unnecessarily hostile and intentionally obtuse though? Suicide is totally avoidable. It's not like "woops, I didn't mean to suicide, oh well!" Someone has to make a deliberate choice to do that. And they do so because it seems easier than dealing with their depression. Which is exactly what blue was saying, and then pink gets all aggressive about how it's not actually avoidable. Oh wow. Please tell me more about suicide and how its the lazy option only picked by people who just don't feel like "dealing with their depression". Because it's just so hard and suicide is just so easy. Seriously, people like you have zero understanding of depression. It's not feeling a little down or sad. It's not something you just deal with and then get back to being your happy self. It is crippling and changes the way you think. People with suicidal ideation aren't lazy, selfish fucks. They literally believe that suicide is the only solution. They don't think others would care if they killed themselves because they are loving depressed. That's the nature of the goddamn disease.
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Macaluso posted:It's not as simple as being simply "avoidable" and saying it's the "easy way out" is stupid. I'll grant that "avoidable" is an oversimplification, but I think that getting upset with someone over saying that it's avoidable is completely unnecessary and makes AnonymousNarcotics look like the bigger rear end in a top hat there, to me. As for the easy way out thing, maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it seems to me like that David Foster Wallace quote about the burning building, how people who jump from one aren't any less afraid of the fall, it's just that they're more afraid of the fire. That it's not "easy" as it were, but "better/easier" than trying to continue on through the depression. into the void posted:Seriously, people like you have zero understanding of depression. It's not feeling a little down or sad. It's not something you just deal with and then get back to being your happy self. It is crippling and changes the way you think. People with suicidal ideation aren't lazy, selfish fucks. They literally believe that suicide is the only solution. They don't think others would care if they killed themselves because they are loving depressed. That's the nature of the goddamn disease. I have depression, but I'm actually seeking treatment for it. Thanks though.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:poo poo you're right, suicide is completely unavoidable, and there's nothing that anyone can do to prevent it, nor any resources available to people considering it. Please never try to "help" anyone with depression or another mental illness. Ever. Tia.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:poo poo you're right, suicide is completely unavoidable, and there's nothing that anyone can do to prevent it, nor any resources available to people considering it. Weegee, considering how rabid a fan of BEAR NUTS you are, I thought you'd be more understanding. In all seriousness, as someone who's seriously been through it: depression does not have a tendency to make one very logical about the affair of ending their own life.
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Regalingualius posted:In all seriousness, as someone who's seriously been through it: depression does not have a tendency to make one very logical about the affair of ending their own life. I'm not intending to say that it does, and I'm very sorry if it comes across as such.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:I'll grant that "avoidable" is an oversimplification, but I think that getting upset with someone over saying that it's avoidable is completely unnecessary and makes AnonymousNarcotics look like the bigger rear end in a top hat there, to me. As for the easy way out thing, maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it seems to me like that David Foster Wallace quote about the burning building, how people who jump from one aren't any less afraid of the fall, it's just that they're more afraid of the fire. That it's not "easy" as it were, but "better/easier" than trying to continue on through the depression. The problem is when people say its 'avoidable' or 'the easy way out' and things like that, it's almost always used to blame the victim for what has happened and painting them to be a bad guy when they are neither there to explain, nor in fact capable of thinking like a 'normal' person if they were. It's very dismissive and vastly over simplifies something incredibly important and poorly understood. And almost always an opinion put forward by someone with little to no experience of it themselves. Unfortunately having depression doesn't qualify you to assess and quantify medical conditions and experiences. Lets just avoid this discussion and laugh at people who have done something to deserve it in some way, instead of arguing about whether Robin Williams found it easier to hang himself than face another day. I'm super bummed already, I want to see people make terrible spelling mistakes and look stupid on social media.  Edit: Wrong I guess. Lethemonster has a new favorite as of 00:54 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:I have depression, but I'm actually seeking treatment for it. Thanks though. I have no idea what degree of depression you have, but if you are actually clinically depressed, then you should know what the mental illness does to a person. People become so depressed that they physically and mentally do not have the energy to get help. I've seen patients so depressed they developed bed sores because they couldn't bring themselves to roll over. And it wasn't because they were lazy! They do not think rationally about themselves and their prospects. People who are suicidal don't just hold a bottle of pills in one hand and a phone number to a hotline in the other and go "ugh, treatment sounds like it would take awhile. Eh, better kill myself". They don't weigh the pros and cons of suicide before doing it and decide it's easier. Often, it's an impulsive act brought about by a several depressive episode. Again, when a person is not thinking rationally. It's why men are more likely to successfully kill themselves; they suicide in ways that don't allow for time to reconsider or be discovered.
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