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Man all a translation had to do was remove lines like "this guy are sick". Maaaaybe change Fire/2/3 to Fire/Ra/Ga to match the rest of the series.
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so is necron the dude i'm supposed to attack while he attacks am i supposed to feel overwhelmed by the amount of attacks the guy has am i supposed to grind what does ff9 want from me
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Aug 13, 2014 06:57
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Lessail posted:so is necron the dude i'm supposed to attack while he attacks This is literally the final boss. And you're thinking of Ozma. Just treat him like any other boss, and come in with as much status and elemental protection as possible. He still has weaknesses to Holy and Wind to exploit.
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Aug 13, 2014 06:59
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Grand Cross can still gently caress you up if you're unlucky, though, because it can inflict Death and Zombie at the same time, neither of which you can ever get a resistance to, and Dead takes precedence over Zombie in status listings so you might waste a few turns wondering why the hell your Phoenix Downs keep missing.
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ApplesandOranges posted:This is literally the final boss. And you're thinking of Ozma. ok cool that's one dumb thing I don't have to worry about most of my abilities are on protection things and i guess the rng just hated the gently caress out of me but i guess the take away is that i don't want to play it anymore today edit: also i don't really like however the battle system/battles ended up in 9? Lessail fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Schwartzcough posted:Just glancing over some of the changes, but it removes Move +3 and Move+2? What the hell? I see nothing about Teleport, which was already arguably the best movement ability. Removing Move+2 is just dumb. Teleport's great when it up and lets you move a dozen spaces successfully and oh hey I just double punched that boss to death with my martial arts ninja before anyone else got to act. The only thing more fun than teleport was using Ignore Height to jump up several stories and kill the inquisitor. I can only imagine Delita's thought when he sees Ramza take off like a goddamn rocket. AngryRobotsInc posted:One of the other big problems with the people doing the translation is they're....those sort of FFVII fans. The "There is no humor in this at all!" sorts. Scroll down a tad and you get this bit, on a future (psh, yeah. It's never happening) feature of the patch: Well obviously it's because Squaresoft's a bunch of stupids. They added a remote controlled robot cat to my serious game about little glowing magic gems and giant biological weapons and a guy trying to meld with the planet because of his alien mother. It's only right to remove that character and replace it with a bland generic character because fans know best. Like how Cloud's supposed to be an eternally emo whiny baby. Now if you'll excuse me I need to go raise some racing chocobos that're so inbred they'd make West Virgina cringe. They should do something useful instead, like make Yuffie not the kind of character that Cid would've pushed off the airship at the first opportunity. Endorph posted:To be fair, the Breath of Fire 2 retranslation is pretty good. Care to summarize it? I don't remember much of the actual text in BoF2. I mainly remember that dragon 'forms' became useless garbage quickly, especially THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Man all a translation had to do was remove lines like "this guy are sick". Maaaaybe change Fire/2/3 to Fire/Ra/Ga to match the rest of the series. Final Fantasy 14 went back to 1-2-3-4 instead of the Cure/ra/ga/ja stuff. Hopefully it stays that way and SE has realized "you know we still call these spells Fire 1/2/3/4 just using gibberish instead of numbers."
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AngryRobotsInc posted:One of the other big problems with the people doing the translation is they're....those sort of FFVII fans. The "There is no humor in this at all!" sorts. Scroll down a tad and you get this bit, on a future (psh, yeah. It's never happening) feature of the patch: That's loving terrible. "Hey guys, let's take all the life out of the script and make everyone the angry shitbag we all know they should have been"
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Aug 13, 2014 07:47
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My favorite thing about playing switcheroo with Cait Sith is that they replace him with a guy named Backstab O'Betrayerson and act like they're improving the game. They should have replaced him with Gogo instead.
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Aug 13, 2014 08:00
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FF11 always just used numbers for the spells though, with Ga meaning they were AOE. So you would have Fire 2, Firaga 2, Fire 3, Firaga 3. Then Flare had like Flare 2 and stuff since it's an MMO and they need to keep releasing spells. I guess it's easier to slap on a 5 than make a new name for a spell.
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Aug 13, 2014 08:01
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I hate the ra/ga stuff also because it changed lightning to thunder to make it fit. Thunder doesn't do anything! It's just the sound lightning makes!
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Fister Roboto posted:I hate the ra/ga stuff also because it changed lightning to thunder to make it fit. Thunder doesn't do anything! It's just the sound lightning makes!  Thunder's actually the correct translation in this case. So it's a gently caress up from the word go.
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Aug 13, 2014 08:20
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Maybe it should be replaced with THUNDERSTRUCK!  And then you get Thunderstruckra and Thunderstruckga.
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Aug 13, 2014 08:22
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The best spell name in the series will always be ZAP!
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Aug 13, 2014 08:34
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Fister Roboto posted:The best spell name in the series will always be ZAP! I was always partial to RUB.
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Aug 13, 2014 08:46
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XXXX 4 lyfe.
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Aug 13, 2014 08:54
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Now I just need to wait for an FFVIII retranslation since it's translation apparently wasn't that good either. I'm not sure how they could gently caress it up though. I mean, it's FFVIII for one thing, so it's more like an uphill battle.
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NikkolasKing posted:Now I just need to wait for an FFVIII retranslation since it's translation apparently wasn't that good either. Here's my FF8 retranslation idea: Remove any and all of Squall's internal monologue boxes. Don't replace them with anything, just try and make sense of the character 'arcs' and plot as the rest of the setting sees it.
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Aug 13, 2014 10:21
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NikkolasKing posted:Now I just need to wait for an FFVIII retranslation since it's translation apparently wasn't that good either. FF8's translation is serviceable. There's few errors, but it's just kinda bland in places. Hot dogs.
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Aug 13, 2014 10:21
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It's too bad that to play an FF8 retrans you'd need to play FF8.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Here's my FF8 retranslation idea: Remove any and all of Squall's internal monologue boxes. Don't replace them with anything, just try and make sense of the character 'arcs' and plot as the rest of the setting sees it. Or do replace them. With Jean Shephard-style narration. Reimagine FF8 as a story told by an older Squall spinning tall tales. Crap I think I done said this out loud
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Man all a translation had to do was remove lines like "this guy are sick". I know that, objectively, any retranslation would have to change 'this guy are sick', but goddammit, I really don't want them to.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Or do replace them. With Jean Shephard-style narration. Reimagine FF8 as a story told by an older Squall spinning tall tales. Seifer Almasy! What a rotten name! We were trapped! There he stood, between us and the radio tower, staring out at us with his yellow eyes. He had yellow eyes! So, help me, God! Yellow eyes!
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BloodWulfe posted:
 Sounds like the worst, spregy-est type of VII fan. Also the change from fat to chubby chocobo probably tells you all you need to know about his physical fitness. kirbysuperstar posted:FF8's translation is serviceable. There's few errors, but it's just kinda bland in places. ♫ TRAINS ♫ Also I kinda like the -ra/-ga/-ja naming convention. 
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Bregor posted:Also I kinda like the -ra/-ga/-ja naming convention. I've always been kindof conflicted when it comes to this, because the suffixes make it sound more like what the characters would say/think/howevermagicworks to cast the spells, but at the same time I like Bolt 1/2/3 way better than Thunder/-ra/-ga. Boltaga?
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Zap/Zapra/Zapaga
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Fister Roboto posted:I hate the ra/ga stuff also because it changed lightning to thunder to make it fit. Thunder doesn't do anything! It's just the sound lightning makes! Thor is the God of Thunder, but he's always slinging lightning everywhere. Xad posted:I've always been kindof conflicted when it comes to this, because the suffixes make it sound more like what the characters would say/think/howevermagicworks to cast the spells, but at the same time I like Bolt 1/2/3 way better than Thunder/-ra/-ga. Boltaga? Bolt just sounds drat cool, and thus I support it over thunder or lightning.
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Lessail posted:edit: also i don't really like however the battle system/battles ended up in 9? How so? FF9 has a really quirky ATB system that is active at all times, unlike in previous games where it paused while attacks were being executed. The only thing the Wait setting does in the config menu is make it pause while selecting commands. It's really easy to exploit this to your advantage. All you have to do is select a command (open an Item or ability menu or select Attack and let the finger wait on the enemy target, or whatever). ATB is not active during this. When you're ready to let time move again, confirm the command. Here's the simple version:
In reality it's a bit more complicated than that as the above strategy is contingent on how many enemies there are, how many characters you have waiting for input, how much of the ATB bars are filled, etc. I never needed to make use of that in vanilla, but it's saved my rear end many times in the Unleashed hack.
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BloodWulfe posted:This guy sounds like a delightful person and not at all insufferable. NikkolasKing posted:Now I just need to wait for an FFVIII retranslation since it's translation apparently wasn't that good either.
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Nihilarian posted:They're changing Phoenix Down? Why? Because it's a filthy, inferior, Occidental baka-gaijin localisation, and they must be purged to restore the purity of the orignal tongue. 
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CottonWolf posted:I know that, objectively, any retranslation would have to change 'this guy are sick', but goddammit, I really don't want them to. Didn't they fix the line on the PC version?
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Xad posted:I've always been kindof conflicted when it comes to this, because the suffixes make it sound more like what the characters would say/think/howevermagicworks to cast the spells, but at the same time I like Bolt 1/2/3 way better than Thunder/-ra/-ga. Boltaga?
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Nihilarian posted:They're changing Phoenix Down? Why? Because down is soft and warm and comforting and FF7 is supposed to be GRIM and DARK and BRUTAL. So rather than using some wimpy, fruity down to restore the fighting spirit of your unconscious friends, you need to use the whole tail, ripped from the back of the still living bird and fresh with its warm life's blood in order to properly resurrect your fallen allies from the DEAD because that is entirely consistent with the tone of Final Fantasy VII.    Seriously, did you even play the game? 
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Sunning posted:Didn't they fix the line on the PC version? They did. PC FF7 was my first Final Fantasy game (  ) and the meme went over my head for years.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Care to summarize it? I don't remember much of the actual text in BoF2. I mainly remember that dragon 'forms' became useless garbage quickly, especially  There's dozens of lines on the same level as 'this guy are sick', and the game's main plot dump is outright incomprehensible. The fan-retranslation for it is pretty solid. No dumb 'let's just directly romanize the japanese name' choices, no Crime Hazard, no 'this is MY fanfic but I will enforce it on the game' decisions, just translating the game as best they can and making it all flow in English. If there's a bad pun in Japanese, they actually localize it and make it a bad pun in English instead of just directly translating the bad pun into nonsense.  (they're gonna kill a plantman)There's a coupled of stilted lines and the translator tries too hard to use official terms from later Breath of Fire games but overall the whole thing is pretty solid. Bregor posted:Sounds like the worst, spregy-est type of VII fan. Also the change from fat to chubby chocobo probably tells you all you need to know about his physical fitness. To be fair, that's like the one thing there that makes sense, at least if the original Japanese actually is a lighthearted word for 'fat.' Chubby fits that better than just outright using the word fat, and makes it kinda lighthearted since clearly that chocobo's way more than just chubby. Endorph fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Endorph posted:
They even made the dialog boxes look pretty  How does it compare to the GBA port? I can't remember if that version had a decent translation or not... I've only ever played through Breath of Fire IV. BoF2 is one I've always wanted to play, but just never got around to it. I'd be more interested if the translation made a lick of sense for a change, but until they reduce the insane battle encounter rate I'll probably just continue to ignore it.
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Mak0rz posted:They even made the dialog boxes look pretty I'm pretty sure the GBA version just had the same translation as the SNES. The SNES patch has some nice feature improvements like that, yeah. Most of those were imported from a german retranslation hack by a different author.
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The only thing the GBA version added was a sprint button. The SNES patch adds that in anyway though.
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I can see an FFVIII retranslation now... "We will not change Final Fantasy VIII's plot in any way." "The following characters are being removed for being insignificant and poorly written: Zell Selphie Irvine Cid CC Group Seifer Raijin Ultimecia Laguna Kid Ellone Rinoa The holes in the cast will be replaced by characters from my FFVIII fanfiction 'Better Off Forgotten,' a sweeping 3000 chapter story that elaborates on what I think the FFVIII universe is about and the dangers of GF use."
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TARDISman posted:I can see an FFVIII retranslation now... No mention of the 'Squall is dead' fanwank. 2/10, try again
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Pureauthor posted:No mention of the 'Squall is dead' fanwank. 2/10, try again Whoa whoa, that'd be revealing spoilers and I can't do that.
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