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Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

I'm looking for movies that strive to depict historical settings (not necessarily historical events) with accuracy. A few anachronisms are okay, I just want them to try to be authentic. Bonus points if they're at least 2000 years in the past; double bonus points if they don't involve the Roman Empire at all. I watched Pharaoh a few weeks ago and really enjoyed it, and the novel it's based on is said to have been particularly meticulously-researched, so I'd like to see more along those lines.

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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
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I've lately been in the mood for films with adventure and colourful settings and characters - Guardians of the Galaxy, Ghibli films, Indiana Jones, Star Wars OT, Fifth Element, stuff like that. Does anybody have some suggestions along those lines?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Bongo Bill posted:

I'm looking for movies that strive to depict historical settings (not necessarily historical events) with accuracy. A few anachronisms are okay, I just want them to try to be authentic. Bonus points if they're at least 2000 years in the past; double bonus points if they don't involve the Roman Empire at all. I watched Pharaoh a few weeks ago and really enjoyed it, and the novel it's based on is said to have been particularly meticulously-researched, so I'd like to see more along those lines.

I haven't done any research on the period so I don't know how accurate it is, but The Princess and the Assassin was really good, and felt realistic to me.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I've lately been in the mood for films with adventure and colourful settings and characters - Guardians of the Galaxy, Ghibli films, Indiana Jones, Star Wars OT, Fifth Element, stuff like that. Does anybody have some suggestions along those lines?

The Mummy (just the first one from 1999; more of a spiritual sequel to the Indiana Jones movies than Crystal Skull was)
Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
The Rocketeer
Captain America
Streets of Fire
The American Astronaut and its unofficial sequel, Stingray Sam (both are in black and white, super-low budget, and weird as hell, but they're sci-fi Western adventure musicals.)
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (it's not great, but I think it's entertaining anyway, especially if you're a fan of the general concept but not familiar with the comic book source material)

Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Aug 10, 2014

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I've lately been in the mood for films with adventure and colourful settings and characters - Guardians of the Galaxy, Ghibli films, Indiana Jones, Star Wars OT, Fifth Element, stuff like that. Does anybody have some suggestions along those lines?

The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
Big Trouble in Little China

And I have to second The Rocketeer.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
Finally read 1984.

Which film adaptation would you recommend?

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I've lately been in the mood for films with adventure and colourful settings and characters - Guardians of the Galaxy, Ghibli films, Indiana Jones, Star Wars OT, Fifth Element, stuff like that. Does anybody have some suggestions along those lines?
Serenity, Star Trek 09, Akira, Kung Fu Hustle

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Armyman25 posted:

Finally read 1984.

Which film adaptation would you recommend?

I've only seen the John Hurt version; it's been a while but from what I recall, I wouldn't.

Watch Brazil instead.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Speaking of book adaptations, I've got about 200 pages left in Crime & Punishment. Any particularly good adaptations out there?

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
I feel like watching Blade Runner again but I just remembered it has a ton of different versions out there. Which version is the "best" version of Blade Runner?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Armyman25 posted:

Finally read 1984.

Which film adaptation would you recommend?

1956 BBC adapatation by Kneale, starring Peter Cushing.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe

The REAL Goobusters posted:

I feel like watching Blade Runner again but I just remembered it has a ton of different versions out there. Which version is the "best" version of Blade Runner?
I am not a scholar of the film but the Final Cut is a very good version. I saw it in the cinema when the film was rereleased on DVD and I own the boxed set. The visuals are cleaned up a bit and I don't think there are any major differences between it and the original director's cut in terms of content. The non-director's cut version with the private dick style narration is the one you want to avoid.

Edit: There seem to be lots of South Korean films on Netflix - I've watched Punch already and really enjoyed it, but I also watched More Than Blue and didn't get on with its melodrama. So I guess I'd rather watch one that has elements of comedy rather than exploitative heartstring-tugging. Any recommendations? Preferably on Netflix.

Chas McGill fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Aug 10, 2014

Meatwave
Feb 21, 2014

Truest Detective - Work Crew Division.
:dong::yayclod:

The REAL Goobusters posted:

I feel like watching Blade Runner again but I just remembered it has a ton of different versions out there. Which version is the "best" version of Blade Runner?

The only two cuts you should care choose between, assuming you are a non-diehard who doesn't watch the movie every week, are the international theatrical one and the 2007 version called "The Final Cut".

The theatrical version has voice-overs, which fans dislike because it explains too much and can kill the mood. The Final Cut removed those, but it has a slightly annoying blue tint that movies use now instead of black for darkness. The Final Cut has the better ending, and was completely under Ridley Scott's vision and wasn't a rush job.

Don't choose between the versions based on the ending. Go with the theatrical if you can't remember a drat thing about the film and want to hear Harrison Ford do hardboiled detective voice-over (Which I actually like, but admit it isn't good for the film). If you remember the film somewhat and haven't seen it since the 2007 The Final Cut edition, watch that.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

TrixRabbi posted:

Speaking of book adaptations, I've got about 200 pages left in Crime & Punishment. Any particularly good adaptations out there?

Do you mean strict interpretations or general adaptions? The Machinist is a good adaptation of it.

Starscream
Aug 17, 2000

Chas McGill posted:

Edit: There seem to be lots of South Korean films on Netflix - I've watched Punch already and really enjoyed it, but I also watched More Than Blue and didn't get on with its melodrama. So I guess I'd rather watch one that has elements of comedy rather than exploitative heartstring-tugging. Any recommendations? Preferably on Netflix.

I'm not sure if they're on Netflix, but I got a kick out of both Attack the Gas Station! and Save the Green Planet.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Do you mean strict interpretations or general adaptions? The Machinist is a good adaptation of it.

Either/or. Although I hated The Machinist when I watched it a few years ago.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
You could watch Match Point.

El Graplurado
Mar 24, 2004
I do backflips when you're not looking.
Aki Kaurismaki's first (?) was an adaptation and it's pretty good. Transplanted to 1983 Finland and loosely sticking to the story, very dry and spare, it's very much him but not all what he'd become at the same time (if that makes sense). Great use of music too.

Oliver Reed
Mar 18, 2014

Looking for films that are heavily based on Greek or Roman mythology. Not really sure exactly what I'm looking for but re-watching Hercules: The Legendary Journeys has me in the mood for something with similar elements.

Also, are there any good movies out there about Vikings?

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Oliver Reed posted:

Looking for films that are heavily based on Greek or Roman mythology. Not really sure exactly what I'm looking for but re-watching Hercules: The Legendary Journeys has me in the mood for something with similar elements.

Also, are there any good movies out there about Vikings?

Odds are you'll hate or love Valhalla Rising, or think it's ok.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

Oliver Reed posted:

Looking for films that are heavily based on Greek or Roman mythology. Not really sure exactly what I'm looking for but re-watching Hercules: The Legendary Journeys has me in the mood for something with similar elements.

Also, are there any good movies out there about Vikings?
Iphigenia, The Trojan Women, Electra, O Brother, Where Art Thou?, Jason and the Argonauts (1963).

And 300. Just kidding.

Starscream
Aug 17, 2000

Oliver Reed posted:

Also, are there any good movies out there about Vikings?

The Viking Sagas is far and away the best depiction of vikings on film. It blew me away when I saw it.

Other titles of interest: The 13th Warrior, Mario Bava's Knives of the Avenger, Outlander.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
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Oliver Reed posted:

Looking for films that are heavily based on Greek or Roman mythology.

Clash of the Titans (original, not remake, also it's a bit of a misnomer because it's about the Greek Gods, not the Titans (who were the predecessors to the Gods))

If you're open to a bit of singing, Offenbach's Orphee aux Enfers has a lot of fun with the Orpheus / Eurydice myth. Watch the version with Natalie Dessay. A sampling (with wretched audio quality and messed up aspect ratio, but it should give you an idea of whether you'd like it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi6SDINpeTw :nws:

For another interpretation of the Orpheus / Eurydice myth, there's the Brazilian film Black Orpheus http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053146/

Gozinbulx
Feb 19, 2004
So I recently saw the absolutely excellent The Long Good Friday starring the late great Bob Hoskins, with cameos from a young Pierce Brosnan and the dude who plays Bricktop as some goon.

Any recommendations for good british gangster/crime flicks? I've seen Snatch and Lock Stock, so those 2 are off the table. I'm looking for something more of the time period of Long Good Friday too, and not necessarily some crazy over the top stuff but rather a well paced, interesting story like this movie.

harpomarxist
Oct 7, 2007

Useless twat opinions from everybody's favorite British coffee shop revolutionary!

Gozinbulx posted:

So I recently saw the absolutely excellent The Long Good Friday starring the late great Bob Hoskins, with cameos from a young Pierce Brosnan and the dude who plays Bricktop as some goon.

Any recommendations for good british gangster/crime flicks? I've seen Snatch and Lock Stock, so those 2 are off the table. I'm looking for something more of the time period of Long Good Friday too, and not necessarily some crazy over the top stuff but rather a well paced, interesting story like this movie.

Sexy Beast has one of the best performances from Ben Kingsley and is the debut for Jonathan Glazer who did Closer and more recently Under The Skin.

If you want something similar to the Guy Ritchie films then Layer Cake is probably your best bet. If you want some from the 70's then The Hit is good (it also inspired Sexy Beast as well as Soderberg's The Limey, Brit gangster films are very incestuous)

If you want unconventional then Ben Wheatley's debut Down Terrace is pretty solid, Nick Roeg's Performance looks at masculinity through the lens of the 60's counterculture, 44 inch chest is probably the closest of these to the gangster tropes but is savagely vicious in a way that dispels any romantic notions of who these people are.

Oliver Reed
Mar 18, 2014

TychoCelchuuu posted:

Iphigenia, The Trojan Women, Electra, O Brother, Where Art Thou?, Jason and the Argonauts (1963).

And 300. Just kidding.

Starscream posted:

The Viking Sagas is far and away the best depiction of vikings on film. It blew me away when I saw it.

Other titles of interest: The 13th Warrior, Mario Bava's Knives of the Avenger, Outlander.

regulargonzalez posted:

Clash of the Titans (original, not remake, also it's a bit of a misnomer because it's about the Greek Gods, not the Titans (who were the predecessors to the Gods))

If you're open to a bit of singing, Offenbach's Orphee aux Enfers has a lot of fun with the Orpheus / Eurydice myth. Watch the version with Natalie Dessay. A sampling (with wretched audio quality and messed up aspect ratio, but it should give you an idea of whether you'd like it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi6SDINpeTw :nws:

For another interpretation of the Orpheus / Eurydice myth, there's the Brazilian film Black Orpheus http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053146/

Thanks guys. Some great looking stuff there, especially The Viking Sagas and that Mario Bava movie I haven't seen.

harpomarxist
Oct 7, 2007

Useless twat opinions from everybody's favorite British coffee shop revolutionary!
So Killer of Sheep is amazing. It reminded me so much of the neo-realist Italian films made after the war, but with this incredible sense of humour and regret.

It also captures the lives of just a normal hardworking poor family in America that happen to be black. Forgive me if i'm missing some really obvious examples but i'm really hard pressed to remember any other films that actually do this.

Again, maybe i'm missing something, but whenever a film wants to show 'poor' and 'black' then it seems to fall into one of these two categories;

- no family unit, the protagonist beds women, not marries them, and lives to a masculinist code (which is actually contrasted against the poor but stable domesticity of the main character in KoS here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UwVQQeQbtk).

- The single parent struggling to raise a kid and keep down a job (often crosses over with the previous) where all we feel is pity or sympathy.

I refuse to believe that this reflects the existence of the entirety of black working class America so i'm coming to you 'Recommend Me' thread for assistance in finding a film that is as genuine, as intelligent and as conscious as Killer of Sheep in offering alternatives to the two archetypes i've mentioned about.

(clarity)

It seems like to be poor and black means to be perpetually in crisis in Hollywood. I'm not trying to hide the socioeconomic 'realities' of life in the US but i'd like to see a film that breaks up the tired stereotypes, or at least looks at them from a different perspective.

harpomarxist fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Aug 13, 2014

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Crooklyn.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
And yeah, Killer of Sheep is a masterpiece.

El Graplurado
Mar 24, 2004
I do backflips when you're not looking.
Bless Their Little Hearts, Bush Mama, and more LA Rebellion stuff, Nothing But a Man,

harpomarxist
Oct 7, 2007

Useless twat opinions from everybody's favorite British coffee shop revolutionary!

El Graplurado posted:

Bless Their Little Hearts, Bush Mama, and more LA Rebellion stuff, Nothing But a Man,

Oh, I am totally on this poo poo, it all looks great. Thanks.

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

Nothing But a Man is SO loving GOOD. It's poor and white, but The Whole Shootin' Match makes a good companion piece.

Gozinbulx
Feb 19, 2004

harpomarxist posted:

Sexy Beast has one of the best performances from Ben Kingsley and is the debut for Jonathan Glazer who did Closer and more recently Under The Skin.

If you want something similar to the Guy Ritchie films then Layer Cake is probably your best bet. If you want some from the 70's then The Hit is good (it also inspired Sexy Beast as well as Soderberg's The Limey, Brit gangster films are very incestuous)

If you want unconventional then Ben Wheatley's debut Down Terrace is pretty solid, Nick Roeg's Performance looks at masculinity through the lens of the 60's counterculture, 44 inch chest is probably the closest of these to the gangster tropes but is savagely vicious in a way that dispels any romantic notions of who these people are.

Thank you sir!

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

mea culpa

Gozinbulx posted:

Thank you sir!

From what I've seen that is a solid list although regarding Long Good Friday-mould stuff I would also recommend Performance and the original Get Carter. And very much emphasise The Hit, as how that doesn't even have a release here in the UK is absurd.

For more recent stuff I'd recommend The General (Irish, but director John "Deliverance" Boorman is British), which is great, and Gangster No. 1, which is at least interesting.

Also be aware that Guy Ritchie's success spawned a slew of knockoff trash British gangster stuff, much of it starring Danny Dyer. Avoid the hell out of them. Good British gangster films don't take themselves too seriously.

harpomarxist
Oct 7, 2007

Useless twat opinions from everybody's favorite British coffee shop revolutionary!

TrixRabbi posted:

Speaking of book adaptations, I've got about 200 pages left in Crime & Punishment. Any particularly good adaptations out there?

Pickpocket

harpomarxist
Oct 7, 2007

Useless twat opinions from everybody's favorite British coffee shop revolutionary!

GimpChimp posted:

From what I've seen that is a solid list although regarding Long Good Friday-mould stuff I would also recommend Performance and the original Get Carter. And very much emphasise The Hit, as how that doesn't even have a release here in the UK is absurd.

For more recent stuff I'd recommend The General (Irish, but director John "Deliverance" Boorman is British), which is great, and Gangster No. 1, which is at least interesting.

Also be aware that Guy Ritchie's success spawned a slew of knockoff trash British gangster stuff, much of it starring Danny Dyer. Avoid the hell out of them. Good British gangster films don't take themselves too seriously.

The General is a good pull. Brendan Gleeson *is* Cahill, way better than the Kevin Spacey version that came out around the same time.

I was also thinking that Face is interesting, directed by Antonia Bird (who also did the cult favourite Ravenous) the main character is an ex socialist who decides to rob banks - it's not too deep, but different from the usual shite that came out after the Lockstock fame.

Scum I guess might be considered interesting too, if only for this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk0XsSDOlfo

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
I would pick Made In Britain over Scum, fursonally.

harpomarxist
Oct 7, 2007

Useless twat opinions from everybody's favorite British coffee shop revolutionary!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I would pick Made In Britain over Scum, fursonally.

Yeah, or that. I was trying to keep with the Brit 'gangster' theme though rather than skinhead nihilism.

Eggnogium
Jun 1, 2010

Never give an inch! Hnnnghhhhhh!
I just saw At Berkeley and loved it and wanna see a lot more Frederick Wiseman, where should I start? In particular I liked how it immerses you deep in people's area expertise (whether as a student or professional) without tuning the language or presentation down at all for a layman viewer so preferably something with more of that. For some reason that is super fascinating to me even when the meaning goes totally over my head.

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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Eggnogium posted:

I just saw At Berkeley and loved it and wanna see a lot more Frederick Wiseman, where should I start? In particular I liked how it immerses you deep in people's area expertise (whether as a student or professional) without tuning the language or presentation down at all for a layman viewer so preferably something with more of that. For some reason that is super fascinating to me even when the meaning goes totally over my head.

Titicut Follies and Law & Order are both excellent.

So, I'm looking for movies that had political impact on the real world. The classic example is The Thin Blue Line, which got an innocent man released from prison. But there's also I Am A Fugitive From a Chain Gang, which helped fuel a rallying cry to abolish chain gangs altogether in the US.

Any more? I remember Mark Cousins talking about a Soviet movie in The Story of Film: An Odyssey that was a massive influence on Gorbachev and helped inspire him to work towards dismantling the USSR. But I can't remember the name.

(And yeah, I know the story about John Hinckley Jr and Taxi Driver)

TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Aug 24, 2014

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