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Tenzarin posted:I haven't watched any kind of mecha series since the end of 00 Gundam, recommend me something with robot fighting. Well they've started releasing the original Mazinger Z series here in the states, so I'd recommend that(or Captain Earth if you want something more recent)
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Kanos posted:There's some very specific shots fired, but everything in the show is 100% coherent and incredibly good without even knowing what SEED is in the first place. This is actually the first I've heard it. What the deal is?
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Aug 13, 2014 02:36
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HitTheTargets posted:This is actually the first I've heard it. What the deal is? There is a specific antagonist character in GunxSword who is a very clear riff on Kira from SEED, down to his mech doing Freedom poses, sharing the same voice actor, and espousing a similar ideology. That's about the long and short of it. drrockso20 posted:Well they've started releasing the original Mazinger Z series here in the states, so I'd recommend that(or Captain Earth if you want something more recent) Friends don't let friends watch Captain Earth. The robot designs are rad as gently caress but the show's writing and plot are an enormous terrible trainwreck of rear end and the robots don't really get to do much besides stock footage combinations and still shots. Kanos fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Aug 13, 2014 02:49
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Kanos posted:There is a specific antagonist character in GunxSword who is a very clear riff on Kira from SEED, down to his mech doing Freedom poses, sharing the same voice actor, and espousing a similar ideology. That's about the long and short of it. And then there's all the talk about forcing peace on the world on grounds of "our saintly leader who can do no wrong says so, and we have the biggest guns". Its not laid on as thick as some people make it out to be but its very much there. Artum fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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Aug 13, 2014 03:02
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Tenzarin posted:I haven't watched any kind of mecha series since the end of 00 Gundam, recommend me something with robot fighting. Depending on the other Gundam series you've watched, Gundam Build Fighters, otherwise New Getter Robo.
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Aug 13, 2014 05:05
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drrockso20 posted:Well they've started releasing the original Mazinger Z series here in the states, This is the first I've heard of this. Are the subs coherent? Kanos posted:Friends don't let friends watch Captain Earth. --but, but, the mecha designs are rad as gently caress!
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Aug 13, 2014 17:58
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Schwarzwald posted:This is the first I've heard of this. Are the subs coherent? No idea about sub quality, it's Discotek so it's probably not bad. They've also acquired the rights to Shin Mazinger Z and will sell it sometime next year. http://www.discotekmedia.com/
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Aug 13, 2014 20:37
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Schwarzwald posted:This is the first I've heard of this. Are the subs coherent? I'm only a couple of episodes in but overall the subs seem pretty good, also the show has been surprisingly realistic in one particular regard, Kouji in the first couple of episodes is an absolutely horrid pilot with no idea how to do anything with Mazinger(in stark comparison to Sayaka who's actually pretty skilled at piloting Aphrodite A), indeed I can't think of a main character in a Mecha series who starts off as a worse pilot than Toei Kouji(although I'm probably forgetting someone)
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Aug 13, 2014 21:54
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drrockso20 posted:I'm only a couple of episodes in but overall the subs seem pretty good, also the show has been surprisingly realistic in one particular regard, Kouji in the first couple of episodes is an absolutely horrid pilot with no idea how to do anything with Mazinger(in stark comparison to Sayaka who's actually pretty skilled at piloting Aphrodite A), indeed I can't think of a main character in a Mecha series who starts off as a worse pilot than Toei Kouji(although I'm probably forgetting someone) Lelouch? Shinji maybe?
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Aug 13, 2014 22:12
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Broken Loose posted:Gear Fighter Dendoh. Are there complete subs for it? I don't think it ever got licensed in the US.
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Aug 13, 2014 23:09
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Crummelhorn posted:Lelouch? Shinji maybe? Lelouch is never a particularly good pilot. His reflexes are above average, but he always either wins through brute strength of his machines and tactics. The Gundam Meisters never really improve as pilots until Season 2 of 00, relying almost entirely on Veda and the overwhelming power of the Gundams. That much is made clear when the Federation gets their hands on GN tech and romps Celestial Being.
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Aug 14, 2014 04:58
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Crummelhorn posted:Lelouch? Shinji maybe? Shinji gets the hang of it fairly quickly. Kouji, on the other hand, spends like four episodes winning battles by pressing random buttons and not knowing how to stop Mazinger from moving. It seriously rules.
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Aug 14, 2014 05:27
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TARDISman posted:Lelouch is never a particularly good pilot. His reflexes are above average, but he always either wins through brute strength of his machines and tactics. The only Gundam Meisters who really show technical skill at any point by successfully besting opponents in relatively even and/or disadvantaged fights are Lockon(both original and new recipe) and Allelujah when both personalities are active. Setsuna pretty much sucks all the way through and leans entirely on his machine in all of its various iterations and Tieria is basically a glorified artillery piece.
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Aug 14, 2014 06:13
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Kanos posted:The only Gundam Meisters who really show technical skill at any point by successfully besting opponents in relatively even and/or disadvantaged fights are Lockon(both original and new recipe) and Allelujah when both personalities are active. Setsuna pretty much sucks all the way through and leans entirely on his machine in all of its various iterations and Tieria is basically a glorified artillery piece. Setsuna fights ribbons to a draw which is a hell of an accomplishment. Tieria is terrible as a pilot though.
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Aug 14, 2014 07:33
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Gaius Marius posted:Setsuna fights ribbons to a draw which is a hell of an accomplishment. Tieria is terrible as a pilot though. The 00 was drastically superior to the Reborns and the Exia was drastically superior to the 0 Gundam.
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Aug 14, 2014 08:08
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Kanos posted:The 00 was drastically superior to the Reborns and the Exia was drastically superior to the 0 Gundam. The 0 over the Exia is obvious but the Reborns and the 00 both had a twin drive system and transam. But the Reborns also had the fangs and the cannon mode, the only thing the 00 had was the original drives.
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Aug 14, 2014 08:17
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Gaius Marius posted:The 0 over the Exia is obvious but the Reborns and the 00 both had a twin drive system and transam. But the Reborns also had the fangs and the cannon mode, the only thing the 00 had was the original drives. Yes, but the original drives literally allow you to teleport and are generally superior in all ways. The Flag fight in the movie is the only time Setsuna has been at a disadvantage robot-wise.
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Aug 14, 2014 08:19
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ImpAtom posted:Yes, but the original drives literally allow you to teleport and are generally superior in all ways. If Setsuna was as unskilled as Kanos claimed he would've died in the final battle original reactors or not. Setsuna grew immeasurably as a pilot throughout seasons one and two.
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Aug 14, 2014 08:22
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Gaius Marius posted:If Setsuna was as unskilled as Kanos claimed he would've died in the final battle original reactors or not. Setsuna grew immeasurably as a pilot throughout seasons one and two. It is an explicit plot point that the Tau Drive transam/twin drive are massively, incredibly inferior to the original drives in every regard. That's why Ribbons shits his pants the first time he sees the 00 teleport, because he doesn't understand how it's possible. The 00 Raiser is basically a nearly unstoppable bull in a china shop that can phase out of existence, teleport at will, fart rainbow understanding waves, and shoot beams big enough to blow up colony lasers. Setsuna grew as a pilot insofar as he was able to stop getting dunked on for free by people he should be burying without effort, but he never really became an ace pilot on the level of basically any named antagonist in the show because he was pretty much always fighting at a huge advantage. Look what happened the two times he actually fought at a disadvantage(Exia Repair and the Flag fight in the movie); he barely survived.
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Gaius Marius posted:If Setsuna was as unskilled as Kanos claimed he would've died in the final battle original reactors or not. Setsuna grew immeasurably as a pilot throughout seasons one and two. Setsuna 'won' in that he got outfought and while Ribbons took serious damage he also took Setsuna's GN Drive. Like seriously, Setsuna doesn't 'win' there. Ribbons is about to blast him with the GN Fang, Setsuna teleports behind Ribbons and cuts into Ribbon's suit, Ribbon's responds by cutting off Setsuna's arm (including stupidly placed GN Drive) and running off with it. That's the problem. If Setsuna's a good pilot he almost never gets a chance to show it. He almost always outclasses his opponents and even then he ends up getting wrecked a lot. I don't think anyone wants to see him Kira Yamato Flawless Victorying it up but the guy never really gets a good showing that makes you feel like it is Setsuna and not the Exia/00 that is carrying the day. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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Aug 14, 2014 11:52
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Go Nagai is penning a Grendizer reboot manga.
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Aug 17, 2014 22:46
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Go Nagai has personally decided to given us the Shin Mazinger sequel we never saw coming.
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Aug 17, 2014 22:59
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The Italians and Arabs will be thrilled.
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Aug 17, 2014 23:05
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I'm not even Italian but their Grendizer OP is hella rad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jANO2-6IM9E
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Aug 17, 2014 23:54
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The reboot's Spazer reminds me a lot of Gattaiger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoxZndZQW3A
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Aug 17, 2014 23:59
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GorfZaplen posted:I'm not even Italian but their Grendizer OP is hella rad. Italian openings are always rad, just look at Tiger Mask or Daitarn.
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So I decided to marathon the Mazinger remake over the weekend for whatever reason and I really enjoyed it. It was the first mech anime in ages that hooked me enough that I couldn't stop until I finished. Then the ending happened which was an amazing fight and a triple cross I didn't see coming. Then poo poo really starting popping off after what you though was the main bad guy was dead then credits. So I go to wiki to find the title for the next series name only to find out it's never been made  It's been a while since a deadend cliffhanger got me though I probably would have seen it coming if I knew more about mazinger than what I could gleam from SRW.
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Aug 26, 2014 01:12
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DrManiac posted:So I go to wiki to find the title for the next series name only to find out it's never been made Now you too can truly understand how we know that there is a god and that he hates us on a very deep personal level.
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Aug 26, 2014 01:31
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DrManiac posted:So I go to wiki to find the title for the next series name only to find out it's never been made It's the Yasuhiro Imagawa experience! 
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Aug 26, 2014 01:55
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Dr Pepper posted:It's the Yasuhiro Imagawa experience! Hey he finished G Gundam.
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Aug 26, 2014 02:11
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And Tetsujin!
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Aug 26, 2014 02:20
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Shin Great Mazinger being a thing would make me so drat happy. It is a great loss that it never happened and Shin Mazinger ended up inconclusive, like GaoGaiGar's sequel that never happened (GaoGaiGo, was it?)
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Aug 26, 2014 02:44
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At least in that particular case Gaogaigar FINAL gave it a pretty nice sendoff.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Shin Great Mazinger being a thing would make me so drat happy. The GaoGaiGar sequel would have been a cross over with Betterman.
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Srice posted:At least in that particular case Gaogaigar FINAL gave it a pretty nice sendoff. The GGG team is stuck on an alternate dimension, possibly forever, with only Mamoru and Kaido returning to Earth. I mean, yes, it is conclusive, but I can't call it nice. If anything it is an incredibly depressing ending.
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Imagawa usually takes multi-year breaks between directing duties. For instance, after Shin Mazinger he used his time to start a new G Gundam manga that nobody is translating for some reason.
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GorfZaplen posted:Imagawa usually takes multi-year breaks between directing duties. For instance, after Shin Mazinger he used his time to start a new G Gundam manga that nobody is translating for some reason. They really should translate it because Chibodee gets a new Gundam with revolver shoulders and a cowboy hat.
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Aug 26, 2014 03:49
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Televisio Frankus posted:They really should translate it because Chibodee gets a new Gundam with revolver shoulders and a cowboy hat. Doesn't Allenby's get an upgrade that makes it into Super Sailor Moon or whatever?
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Aug 26, 2014 05:14
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My phone apparently lost it's goddamn mind. Apologies.
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Blaze Dragon posted:The GGG team is stuck on an alternate dimension, possibly forever, with only Mamoru and Kaido returning to Earth. With the last of their resources, the Gutsy Galaxy Guard ensures that, while they may be forever trapped in an endless empty expanse, they at least won't have to deal with Mamoru any longer.
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