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PantsOptional posted:More importantly, though, there's a bit later on in that episode where the Doctor calls “a mystery wrapped in an enigma squeezed into a skirt that’s just a little too tight" and then gets this derpy grin on his face. That's got to be a contender for "worst line ever uttered by the Doctor", I think.
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I'm confident the upcoming episodes will have something to blow that out of the running.
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vegetables posted:That's got to be a contender for "worst line ever uttered by the Doctor", I think. Eh, I've made my peace with it. I think he was in love with the mystery he'd built up in his head and got caught up in the excitement of it all. If he actually knew what was up with her and was actually engaged in a stable linear relationship (like with Rose) he would find it boring (or at least I hope the writers agree with that.) Dya think 12 will still hold a candle for Clara? I'd get annoyed if the whole plot line was totally and completely dropped since that doesn't seem realistic. (If you can suddenly shut down romantic feelings for someone, please send notice back in time to my high school self.) That said, I also REALLY don't want sad eyed Capaldi mooning for Coleman while Gold's dramatic music swells. Xibanya fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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My brain must have edited that scene out, that line is such a stinker v v
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Xibanya posted:Eh, I've made my peace with it. I think he was in love with the mystery he'd built up in his head and got caught up in the excitement of it all. If he actually knew what was up with her and was actually engaged in a stable linear relationship (like with Rose) he would find it boring (or at least I hope the writers agree with that.) The other part of the quote from Moffat: "From a Doctor she could sort of control, because he had a crush on her, she's landed with a Doctor who barely registers that she's a girl." Looks like he's gonna move away from the crush stuff.
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The Senator Giroux posted:Looks like he's gonna move away from the crush stuff. I wish I could be as optermistic as you but Robots of Sherwood is basically a dick measuring episode with Clara caught in the middle and at the end of Time Heist the script implies that the Doctor has started competing cwith Danny for her affections.
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Burkion posted:Eh, good for them. I hope they enjoy it as much as they think they will. Ditto. As much as I dislike the scripts and leaked episode I have no problem with anyone enjoying them, even if I'll struggle to understand why.
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Burkion posted:Eh, good for them. I hope they enjoy it as much as they think they will. Well sure there will be a few idiots who just enjoy awful poo poo, like that one poster who said the Master playing that song was the most iconic moment in Doctor Who. But I think most are just not expecting the writing to be as bad as it is, or they are expecting Capaldi to be some kind of miracle worker.
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Minus the retarded Gatiss episode, I actually really enjoyed the scripts/episode for the most part. The only truly awful parts of Deep Breath were the Paternosters, but that was expected. I honestly don't get the hate so far, and this is from someone who disliked most of last season.
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Couple of choice interview quotes from Capaldi in the Sunday Times magazine.quote:There is a conflict among fans, but I'm trying to get the Mondasians back. quote:There'll be no flirting, that's for sure. It's not what this Doctor's concerned with. It's quite a fun relationship, but no, I did call and say 'I want no Papa-Nicole moments.' I think there was a bit of tension with that at first, but I was absolutely adamant. quote:One thing the show does well is balance the epic and the domestic. You can go from the edge of the universe to a pedestrian precinct. This Doctor loves watching stars being born in Andromeda; he's also thrilled to see litter blowing across the supermarket car park at dawn. quote:Magician look? I think it's quite a hard look. I always wanted him to be in black - I always just saw the Doctor in dark colours. Not tweed. Matt's a really young cool guy - he can wear anything, but I wanted to strip it back and be very stark. quote:We still blow a lot of poo poo up. That's very important, but it's going to be a bit different from what we've seen over recent years. A bit more gravity. Some situations are more sombre and I think there are more rooted dramatic scnes. Over th past two or three years, which I've loved, there has often been a breathless vigour; we still have that attack, but we have another level of drama, another tone. And the the scenes are longer.
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Unfortunately none of the awesome musings he has there come across in the episodes themselves.
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That's the other half of being a professional actor. The first half is being good on-screen. The other half is knowing how to make even the worst projects sound amazing.
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So the second episode workprint finally leaked, Into The Dalek. It's loving fantastic. Like, I was legit afraid it was going to be another Victory of the Daleks, but oh my god is it good. This is what happens when you have a seasoned screenwriter coupled with an acclaimed film director. Knocked it out of the goddamn park, even with the lovely temp CGI.
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HD DAD posted:So the second episode workprint finally leaked, Into The Dalek. wait, they make the good-bad Dalek, Doctor would make a good Dalek bullshit work?
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Yep. Like, this could have VERY EASILY been a shitfest, but lo and behold some talented people were in charge here. e: the Doctor-Dalek mind meld managed to be somehow heartbreaking. That was unexpected. HD DAD fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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I'm not usually one to second something but...loving second. Just watched it and I finally feel really really great about this season's chances for excellent Who. I'm all for anything I can get, but this episode was loving perfect. When Rusty was leaving and he kept looking back I actually choked up a bit. Also Danny was just Rory enough without being so Rory that I felt like it was a copy. Finally, Journey's ending sucked. The Doctor has taken on people guilty of far more than just being a soldier, plus she didn't follow orders and blow poo poo up. FFS, the Brig was a soldier.
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Stairs posted:I'm not usually one to second something but...loving second. Just watched it and I finally feel really really great about this season's chances for excellent Who. I'm all for anything I can get, but this episode was loving perfect. Hey remember that the new Doctor is 'the man who never would' where the old doctor happily gunned down and blew up people. I am exaggerating, but that weird pseudo pacifist thing they did with him in the new series is really one of the more grating things I dislike about the reboot as a whole. why did the Doctor needed to be Space Jesus. Anyway, with two positive reaction, I might just going to check this out. e X fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Aug 13, 2014 |
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e X posted:Hey remember that the new Doctor is 'the man who never would' where the old doctor happily gunned down and blew up people. That's not quite true. The Doctor's characterisation varies between regenerations and writers but in general he was something of a pacifist, and even when he did use "guns" it was very very rarely against "people" - it was using some specific device that tied into the weaknesses of the aliens he was facing. The solar lamps against the Ice Warriors, the Emotion gun against the Cybermen, whatever the gently caress worked against the Daleks. The Man Who Never Would stuff was really really stupid but you can see the pacifist element to his character in loads of stories, The Silurians being an obvious example.
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The ninth Doctor run explained it well.
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e X posted:Hey remember that the new Doctor is 'the man who never would' where the old doctor happily gunned down and blew up people. I am exaggerating, but that weird pseudo pacifist thing they did with him in the new series is really one of the more grating things I dislike about the reboot as a whole. why did the Doctor needed to be Space Jesus. He isn't Space Jesus, despite what RTD might try to imply. He is the Man who Regrets. Since the revival has the Doctor right off the heels of a war where he lost his home and his race, I can see him trying to take a more pacifistic way to try to compensate. The whole Man Who Never Would seems more like Ten's Bravado and trying to be the moral authority. Anyway, saw episode 2. Capaldi is going to be a fun Doctor. She's my carer. She cares so I don't have to. 
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Nah, the Tardis just likes a bit of the rough.
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Yeah, this second episode surprisingly renewed my enthusiasm for this season. It's so odd how stark the difference is between Capaldi's first and second episodes. Deep Breath really feels like a Matt Smith episode with Capaldi's debut shoehorned in, where as the second one gives him a surprising amount of depth and voice and pulls off a fairly terrible sounding concept with a great deal of grace. Capaldi feels very much like a surgeon here as opposed to Smith's romantic and Tennant's cavalier Doctors - both of which got a real retread in that first episode.
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mind the walrus posted:That's the other half of being a professional actor. The first half is being good on-screen. The other half is knowing how to make even the worst projects sound amazing. Well on that level, at least, Capaldi is killing it.
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thepokey posted:Matt Smith clicked his fingers to open the TARDIS door, Capaldi just kicks it open. This is the stuff my dreams are made of.
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thepokey posted:Matt Smith clicked his fingers to open the TARDIS door, Capaldi just kicks it open. Vastra has a loving remote key to close her carriage door 
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God drat, you all weren't kidding. I expected to hate those after reading the script but Capaldi's making it work.
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Shadoer posted:My personal review of all 5 of the scripts Actual filmed episode, one of the best Dalek episodes in the last few years. I didn't read the script, were there any changes or was it just really well filmed?
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Senor Tron posted:Actual filmed episode, one of the best Dalek episodes in the last few years. It was just really really well filmed and Capaldi (and surprisingly) Coleman acted the gently caress out of it.
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So we have seen a very different 12 from episode 1 to episode 2 with a few people commenting that episode 1 had remnants of Matt Smith still there. Could that be completely intentional now as part of the regeneration he was still slowly shifting from one personality to the other as opposed to a sudden change? I guess the remaining episodes will answer that when we see if he bounces between the two. But I can look on the first episode in a better light if that is intentional. Either way, like others said and like any Capaldi fan was sure would happen - he did act the gently caress out of episode 2. Also yay Tyres from Spaced and Dolourus Edd!
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Noticed the Signet Ring, and I thought, while the look of the Doctor reminds me of Pertwee, the personality has a lot more Hartnell in there. I really like the delivery and acting of the line "No, you are a good Dalek". To me it echoed the "You will make a good Dalek" from 9's run, and it echoed it well. It did not feel forced. Also, Capaldi played it wonderfully.
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thepokey posted:So we have seen a very different 12 from episode 1 to episode 2 with a few people commenting that episode 1 had remnants of Matt Smith still there. Could that be completely intentional now as part of the regeneration he was still slowly shifting from one personality to the other as opposed to a sudden change? I guess the remaining episodes will answer that when we see if he bounces between the two. But I can look on the first episode in a better light if that is intentional. Either way, like others said and like any Capaldi fan was sure would happen - he did act the gently caress out of episode 2. Also yay Tyres from Spaced and Dolourus Edd! That may well be the case - there's precedent in Moffat's run, at least. Matt Smith was doing a pretty overt Tennant impression in his first episode, and was certainly playing it completely differently by The Beast Below. I don't actually remember DT doing that, though. He was pretty much DT from the start.
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Barry Foster posted:That may well be the case - there's precedent in Moffat's run, at least. Matt Smith was doing a pretty overt Tennant impression in his first episode, and was certainly playing it completely differently by The Beast Below. I haven't seen the first 12th yet but this one was fun. I really like the hookiness of the workprints.
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