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Gough Suppressant posted:or idk maybe don't make a character whose major defining characteristic is his race and then brownface yourself to play him No but you see it's not "racist" because its "satire". Its "satirising" the "idea" of "brown" "people", or something. e: forgot this wasn't gbs
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bell jar posted:e: forgot this wasn't gbs yeah I empty quoted muyb and then realised that I had to quickly edit in an actual reply. Considering the entire argument about that israel-related cartoon was in GBS and we usually talk poo poo in here, it's getting confusing. Hell, soag even posted in this thread, wtf
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bell jar posted:No but you see it's not "racist" because its "satire". Its "satirising" the "idea" of "brown" "people", or something. I appreciate the defence, but I thought it was funny and fairly accurate, as far as attention deficit trouble kids from traditional islander societies go. Counterpoint, Akropolis now. Made by Greeks and horribly racist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TevK9qFFKo
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Every grade at every school has a kid just like Jonah that acts out because they are struggling with identity and maybe lovely parents. White, Asian, Lebanese, it doesn't matter the race, they all act similarly and it's something most young people can relate to. gently caress, friendlyjordies 'yilmaz' is the same thing but Turkish. It's just he chose to play a Tongan one that makes it bad according to auspol. For the record my grades Jonah was Greek. EDIT: and its not bad at also pointing out that these kids quite often struggle with family related issues that contribute to their behaviour which is a good thing to point out to the people watching who just think their schools Jonah is a dickhead. I mean he is, but theres a reason for it. Laserface fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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Nibbles! posted:Been funny would have helped too. Which type of muslim?
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# ? Aug 14, 2014 12:38 |
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Anyone with a crikey sub able to post the latest Grundle?
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Laserface posted:It's just he chose to play a Tongan one that makes it bad according to auspol. Yes, a white man brown-facing it up and impersonating another race is bad. This is elementary poo poo.
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For clarification:
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Laserface posted:Every grade at every school has a kid just like Jonah that acts out because they are struggling with identity and maybe lovely parents. White, Asian, Lebanese, it doesn't matter the race, they all act similarly and it's something most young people can relate to. gently caress, friendlyjordies 'yilmaz' is the same thing but Turkish. Yilmaz is horribly racist. Hth
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webmeister posted:Anyone with a crikey sub able to post the latest Grundle? quote:Rundle: Hockey’s suicide machine successfully alienates every single voter
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Laserface posted:Every grade at every school has a kid just like Jonah that acts out because they are struggling with identity and maybe lovely parents. White, Asian, Lebanese, it doesn't matter the race, they all act similarly and it's something most young people can relate to. gently caress, friendlyjordies 'yilmaz' is the same thing but Turkish. If the kid's race wasn't the major part of the joke, why did Chris Lilley, a white person, decide to don brownface to make the character?
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Laserface posted:Every grade at every school has a kid just like Jonah that acts out because they are struggling with identity and maybe lovely parents. White, Asian, Lebanese, it doesn't matter the race, they all act similarly and it's something most young people can relate to. gently caress, friendlyjordies 'yilmaz' is the same thing but Turkish. Are you trolling or can you legitimately not recognise why blackface is offensive? Doctor Spaceman posted:Rundle This is great, I wish it wasn't behind a paywall so I could share it on FB. Gawd Crikey.
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# ? Aug 14, 2014 13:35 |
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Can't wait for some idiot loving wet liberal to come and tell me how I am an idiot for saying blackface/brownface is racist
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Gough Suppressant posted:Can't wait for some idiot loving wet liberal to come and tell me how I am an idiot for saying blackface/brownface is racist Uhm I'd prefer it if you used the term face of colour, TIA
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Splode posted:This is great, I wish it wasn't behind a paywall so I could share it on FB. Gawd Crikey. He's been on fire lately, it lets Bernard do what I feel he does better which is snark from the sidelines instead of carrying all the outrage.
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Of course blackface is racist you stupid overreacting fuckers.
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Yilmaz is horribly racist. Hth I... I find this one hard. Yilmaz doesn't really seem particularly nasty to me. High school kids are ridiculous, and kids from different backgrounds often are ridiculous in different ways. Yilmaz perfectly reflects some of my high school experiences. Basically nothing makes me feel warm about that period of my life, but Yilmaz kinda does. It reminds me how silly and funny some of it was.
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Splode posted:Uhm I'd prefer it if you used the term face of colour, TIA This is a loving hilarious post
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Splode posted:Uhm I'd prefer it if you used the term face of colour, TIA Noice.
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Phelps just went full troll:
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gently caress they just don't get it do they.
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I feel like, while Chris Lilley's gimmick of playing his own characters regardless of who they are generally works pretty well for him (he's good enough to play most of these characters pretty convincingly, it lets him really pull off the ensemble shows, and can let him get away with certain things that wouldn't otherwise fly for the audience), it worked against him with Jonah's show. It worked well enough in Summer Heights High, because his ethnicity wasn't as much of an issue; he was a problem kid struggling at both school and home, that just happened to be Tongan. Like Laserface said, there are Jonahs all over Australian schools, of all different ethnicities (mine were an Afghani and Sudanese; I know the Sudanese was a refugee, I don't think the Afghani was). Making Jonah's ethnicity more central, while remaining in the role himself, was Lilley's big misstep in Jonah's own series. I honestly don't think his non-ensemble shows are very good, because his plotlines don't need a full half-hour episode and his characters aren't deep enough to carry one solo, but Jonah was a very bad choice for exactly that reason. If the entire thing was exactly the same, but with an actual Tongan boy playing Jonah, it probably would've stood fairly well, but that was just not an option.
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Mattjpwns posted:Phelps just went full troll: That's beautiful.
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We in Queensland defeated that removal of the Socialist Objective bullshit months ago. I guess we really are the SMART STATE
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Let's look at some of Lilley's other stuff to see if claims of his work being racist are unfou- Gough Suppressant fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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Problematic
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Gough Suppressant posted:Let's look at some of Lilley's other stuff to see if claims of his work being racist are unfou- The ABC fartchecker is on the case!
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Mattjpwns posted:Phelps just went full troll: Phelps really isn't as smart as he thinks he is.
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Endman posted:That's beautiful. Phelps is a right wing shitlord with utterly reprehensible politics, but he's at least got a sense of humour.
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So someone I know said this was an 'intereasting read' from the Bendigo stop the Mosque thing. It's your usual 'THEY'RE COMING' nonsense, nothing all that special although it mentioned Hizb ut-Tahrir having written a constitution for Australia. This perked my interest so I followed the link and the've saved a copy stating you can check the Hizb site but VIRUSES. Check the site and of course nothing there, but went to the Restore Australia site they linked it from. They've written their own constitution which totally erases our entire legal system and history http://www.restoreaustralia.org.au/petition-ups/DraftConstitution%28Book2%29.pdf It's enormous, but you can find some fun in there. 19.26 makes it illegal to possess any currency that isn't Australian. Nibbles! fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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Nibbles! posted:They've written their own constitution which totally erases our entire legal system and history That's, umm... E: quote:The territory of Australia is defined as including: Literally trying to claim the Southern Cross for Australia. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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Jesus Christquote:61
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Gee I wonder who they're talking about herequote:22.3.
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The electoral system has some dumb bits and is possibly unworkable, but it's not the batshit crazy idea that exist in, say, quote:1.21. Common law shall have no place in Australian society.
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So if an Indigenous person wanders out of a reservation and asks to be taken to a hospital, they're to be refused access to medicine?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:
Too loving funny.
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quote:3.28. Hmmm, was this Chris Lilly show contriving moral standards? Ok country, time for a referendum.
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It actually sounds like "Brave new world". But with less pneumatic sexing.
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Gough Suppressant posted:Let's look at some of Lilley's other stuff to see if claims of his work being racist are unfou- Yeah, I liked Angry Boys and I'm not gonna defend S.Mouse.
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Well, this is awkward. Former Prime Minister Sir John Major has praised immigrants for having the "guts" and "drive" to travel across the world to better themselves. In an interview for BBC Radio 4's Reflections, to be broadcast tomorrow, he rejects the idea that immigrants always come to Britain to benefit from the country's welfare system. Instead, he describes immigrants as having "the very Conservative instinct" of wanting to improve their lives and that of their families. Talking about growing up in Brixton in the 1950s, he says he saw immigration at "very close quarters" when there was a "different social value" placed on immigration. "They shared my house," he says. "They were my neighbours. I played with them as boys. I didn't see people who had come here just to benefit from our social system. I saw people with guts and the drive to travel halfway across the world in many cases to better themselves and their families." Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/uk-immigration/59781/john-major-praises-guts-and-drive-of-immigrants-in-the-uk#ixzz3ANUSbAfr
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